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  • @Frank_tech said:
    I always wondered why no IPV5 ? 209.19.44.23.63

    Wouldn't it have added a few billion IP's to the pool ? I don't know enough about networking to figure it out myself.

    IPv5 is for the lame, we already have IPv9 for a long time
    https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/ipv9/

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @Frank_tech said: I always wondered why no IPV5 ? 209.19.44.23.63

    same here, just why???????????

    also, IANA admitted it shit it's pants in the 90's, google it up, i forgot to bookmark the video on YouTube.

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @suyadi92 said: Deal! I'll pay by screenshot ♥️

    deal, we accept unicorn tears or beer :D :D , still <3 the fella

    Thanked by 1suyadi92
  • @host_c said:

    @suyadi92 said: Deal! I'll pay by screenshot ♥️

    deal, we accept unicorn tears or beer :D :D , still <3 the fella

    Ahaha, thank you mate

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • mistermmisterm Member

    I wonder how many places accept email on IPv6, and how many(that weren't setup to prove a point) only accept on IPv6

  • aphexaphex Member
    edited March 16

    @Frank_tech said: Wouldn't it have added a few billion IP's to the pool ? I don't know enough about networking to figure it out myself.

    its exactly same amount of work as ipv6. totally break all existing case. NOT backward compatible. Everything that need change to support ipv6 would need to change in same breaking way to support ipv5, you do not gain anything

    size of ipv6 remove next problem. adding one more . in v4 just extend problem another few year

    Thanked by 1xms
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited March 16

    @suyadi92 said: Ahaha, thank you mate

    Anytime :D

    @misterm said: I wonder how many places accept email on IPv6, and how many(that weren't setup to prove a point) only accept on IPv6

    All of them.

    MSFT especially. :D

    @suyadi92 said:

    @Frank_tech said:
    I always wondered why no IPV5 ? 209.19.44.23.63

    Wouldn't it have added a few billion IP's to the pool ? I don't know enough about networking to figure it out myself.

    IPv5 is for the lame, we already have IPv9 for a long time
    https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/ipv9/

    Port speed: 1.544 Mbps via FastEthernet cable, unlimited transfer.

    i think you get that over COAX, so definitely the port speed is over sold :D

    Thanked by 1suyadi92
  • OscarCiprianoOscarCipriano Member, Patron Provider

    I have my own IPv6 subnet and offer these services to my clients, but I still use IPv4 for now because it's easier to memorize. Even the habit of memorizing IPv4 is slowly fading, though, since I use DNS 99% of the time anyway.

    Thanked by 1xms
  • xmsxms Member

    pretty much the majority.

    both ISPs I use have IPv6.

    most my servers are ipv6 only as well.

    there are couple of NAT servers, only 2 have dedicated v4 are GCP and oracle free vms.

  • @host_c ipv6 sales were the thing that finally made me setup and figure out ipv6, now I enable it on all my servers that have it. It's actually super handy on my two $99/yr dartnode dedis... I have them both running proxmox with the host only assigned the ipv6, which lets me use the ipv4 directly on an opnsense vm to publish services.

    Thanked by 2host_c yoursunny
  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @yoursunny

    Nobody has ever asked for my ipv6 test ip but feel free to test it. 2001:550:5a00::1

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @LittleCreek said:
    @yoursunny

    Nobody has ever asked for my ipv6 test ip but feel free to test it. 2001:550:5a00::1

    $ ping -c4 2001:550:5a00::1
    PING 2001:550:5a00::1 (2001:550:5a00::1) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 2001:550:5a00::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=102 ms
    64 bytes from 2001:550:5a00::1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=101 ms
    64 bytes from 2001:550:5a00::1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=101 ms
    64 bytes from 2001:550:5a00::1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=101 ms
    
    --- 2001:550:5a00::1 ping statistics ---
    4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3002ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 101.390/101.460/101.518/0.049 ms
    

    It works.

    @xms said:
    pretty much the majority.

    both ISPs I use have IPv6.

    I'm bit envious. Neither of my 2 ISPs has IPv6 support.

    Thanked by 3host_c xms skimply153
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @yoursunny said:

    @MannDude said:
    From a business standpoint, we support it because it's expected to be supported but we do so minimally.

    We are building a short list for recommended IPv6 providers, to be picked among routed IPv6 hall of shame based on editor's assessment.
    Now we know which providers to not include in the short list, and you'll be one of them.

    Please sir, I've got a family to feed.

  • macguymacguy Member

    My ISP doesn't offer IPv6, but I now have it active on all my VPS's that offer it.

    Never liked it at first, because the IPs were too long to memorize.

    Once I got used to it, I found it kinda fun doing large file transfers between VPS's over IPv6.
    Neat to see all the IPv6 addresses in qBittorrent, too.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • ipv6 is cool n all but i mostly go for ipv4 only even if i have duelstack, ipv4 works fine like Debian, if it aint broke, don't fix it.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @LittleCreek said:
    @yoursunny

    Nobody has ever asked for my ipv6 test ip but feel free to test it. 2001:550:5a00::1

    Will you include this in every offer post from now on, adjacent to the test IPv4 ?

  • xmsxms Member

    @oloke said: I'm bit envious. Neither of my 2 ISPs has IPv6 support.

    its was not easy. complained for years.

    Most ISPs have their core network with v6 deployed.

    One way to check is to goto FB or YT, get the CDN domain and check for AAAA records.

    If there is you can ask them to deploy to end users.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • rcy026rcy026 Member

    I run ipv6 everywhere, ip4 is just fallback on public facing servers. Most of my services run behind nginx proxies that terminates ip4 and proxies it to ipv6.
    If a server does not have ipv6 it's a dealbreaker for me. All my management, backup and internal dns is ipv6 only so it has to be there. Ip4 I can do without, have not really relied on it for the past 10 years or so.

    As for ipv5, that name was used by the ST (streaming protocol), a protocol from the early 80's or maybe even late 70's that focused on QoS and deliverability. It actually ran over ip4 so it was never meant as a replacement, more like an improvement. It kind of just died out when connectivity improved everywhere and things like RTP took over. However, it had already been assigned the protocol number 5 in the ip header, so it took the name ipv5 with it to its grave. Not missing it one bit, I remember cursing it because it was a bitch to use, the idea was that it should reserve bandwidth for certain services whether they used it or not, which made it a nightmare to configure when you were using analog lines or in best case some ISDN that that dynamically swapped between 64 or 128 kbps. Yeah, I'm that old. :smile:

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @yoursunny said:

    @LittleCreek said:
    @yoursunny

    Nobody has ever asked for my ipv6 test ip but feel free to test it. 2001:550:5a00::1

    Will you include this in every offer post from now on, adjacent to the test IPv4 ?

    I have included ipv6 in every offer for the last several years. I just didn't think about including it as a test ip and nobody ever asked. But I will from now on.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @yoursunny said:

    @MannDude said:
    From a business standpoint, we support it because it's expected to be supported but we do so minimally.

    We are building a short list for recommended IPv6 providers, to be picked among routed IPv6 hall of shame based on editor's assessment.
    Now we know which providers to not include in the short list, and you'll be one of them.

    Important correction:
    The short list is picked from routed IPv6 hall of fame, not "hall of shame" that was a typo.
    It would be based on editor's somewhat subjective assessment on the quality of IPv6 implementation, and the provider's attitude toward IPv6.

    A provider would be disqualified if:

    • There are frequent reports on packet loss, routing issues, etc that affects IPv6 connectivity but not IPv4.
    • The provider treats IPv6 as second class citizen, rather than as equal to IPv4.
    • The provider has questionable business practices causing drama threads, making us uncomfortable to recommend such providers.

    @MannDude said:
    Please sir, I've got a family to feed.

    You don't even fulfill the objective requirement (i.e. routed /64).

  • user54321user54321 Member
    edited March 18

    Since it is uncommon to have native IPv4 in my country and that tunneled IPv4 performs like dog shit a service which is only reachable via IPv4 is like it is hosted via 56k modem, So I don't use services which don't offer IPv6. Sadly I still need github from time to time and cloning a gitrepo with two digit kbps speed sucks. Via IPv6 I get 1 gbps.

    Thanked by 2yoursunny xms
  • rcy026rcy026 Member

    @user54321 said:
    Since it is uncommon to have native IPv4 in my country and that tunneled IPv4 performs like dog shit a service which is only reachable via IPv4 is like it is hosted via 56k modem, So I don't use services which don't offer IPv6. Sadly I still need github from time to time and cloning a gitrepo with two digit kbps speed sucks. Via IPv6 I get 1 gbps.

    Get a decent vps with both ipv6 and ip4 and tunnel all the ip4 traffic trough that.
    That's what I do with all my ipv6 only servers that needs to talk to github, some apt repos and every other service that are stuck in the past. :smile:

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • sshboxsshbox Member

    @Carlin0 said:
    For some services, I prefer to listen on the IPv6 port, I think it's harder to find

    Now that's a solid use case! Some good ol' security by obscurity, where the obscurity actually makes a difference.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep
    edited March 19

    @sshbox said:

    @Carlin0 said:
    For some services, I prefer to listen on the IPv6 port, I think it's harder to find

    Now that's a solid use case! Some good ol' security by obscurity, where the obscurity actually makes a difference.

    Hopefully, he meant "harder to find" not as a security measure but rather significantly less exposure to untargeted Internet-wide scans to keep logs clean from noise.

  • Is there any tutorial or case use scenarios out there for IPV6 ? I have always disabled it on my home computers but if it benefits hosting or VPS I might take another look at it.

  • ThrowRaPestThrowRaPest Member, Patron Provider

    Still pretty low for me overall, most traffic is still IPv4.
    I try to enable IPv6 where possible, but in practice it really depends on the provider and how well it’s supported across the stack(

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