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Linux age verification laws in California and Colorado

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  • rpqurpqu Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:
    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up.

    Until the cops starts arresting teenager children who's using social media in public

    Crime must be zero in California if the police are going to focus on something this trivial. At most, there’ll be a few symbolic cases that aren’t really worth worrying about.

    If the laws isn't upheld, then it has to be deprecated.

    Abolished? Deprecated isn't really in the law's life cycle.

    Yes.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    It's not that either, because it's literally just an "are you over 18? Yes / No"

  • emperoremperor Member

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: It's not that either, because it's literally just an "are you over 18? Yes / No"

    There is no point in simply yes/no button as you said it, coz everyone can press yes and be done with it. No logic.

  • To emperor & OpaqueRegistrant ..this is a start.. bad things creep in slowly through what looks like useless features.. yes/no button. It is amended at a later date until it reaches the objective.. that would be full biometrics. With things like this there is an objective and the first introduction has little to do with the actual objective. Next year they will say whatever excuses
    is needed to amend this law to real ID, then credit card, then a face scan, then a hash of your DNA. Of course it starts in California.

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  • What stops them from just not complying?

  • forestforest Member

    @Netralex said:
    What stops them from just not complying?

    Lawyers and lawsuits.

  • @forest said:

    @Netralex said:
    What stops them from just not complying?

    Lawyers and lawsuits.

    Even if youre a Linux distro without a company or not located anywhere near those states/countries?

  • forestforest Member
    edited March 14

    @Netralex said:

    @forest said:

    @Netralex said:
    What stops them from just not complying?

    Lawyers and lawsuits.

    Even if youre a Linux distro without a company or not located anywhere near those states/countries?

    Yep, unless you choose to prohibit people from those jurisdictions from using your product as MoonlightBSD has done.

  • Something to consider is the jurisdiction can be inserted into the product. How ? You start up some new body or agency and base it in CA , that body is a corp and responsible for the release of a product like an OS or kernel, it then requires it for everyone because the corp is based in CA.. If it doesn't make sense just look at the UK, they have passed laws for their residents but are enforcing it or trying to enforce on other countries.. Even if it isn't legally doable the big corp partners will do it anyway. So Apple, Linux, etc base themselves in CA and have to force the entire world to comply with CA laws to use their product, Its a theory and not bulletproof but things like this have already been tried. I don't think the corps or the govt care about the kids, this is another effort to get a real workd ID on the internet for the user.

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  • davidedavide Member
    edited March 15

    @Netralex said:
    What stops them from just not complying?

    A sexy orange prison jumpsuit

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • @davide said:

    @Netralex said:
    What stops them from just not complying?

    A sexy orange prison jumpsuit

    Smol smol smol

  • @emperor said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: It's not that either, because it's literally just an "are you over 18? Yes / No"

    There is no point in simply yes/no button as you said it, coz everyone can press yes and be done with it. No logic.

    Only root can say that other users are above 18

  • @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    Only root can say that other users are above 18

    adduser grandpa
    upload passport

  • PacketraOliverPacketraOliver Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    Can you imagine if everyone was like you and took every single sentence so literally, instant chaos in the world.

    The sentence you wrote on its own for emphasis? Don't flip flop, stick by whatever you're saying rather than blaming the reader for reading what you wrote. FFS

    Not flip flopping, It was an just an exaggeration on an already ridiculous situation in the world.

    How about this?

    I will ensure that my replies will be dead on accurate and factual going forward with minimal to no exaggeration so that @TimboJones feels okay.

  • https://itsfoss.com/news/systemd-age-verification/
    Why systemd is adding this optional date of birth thing, I thought only OS were asked to implement age verification!!

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • forestforest Member

    @buggedout said:
    https://itsfoss.com/news/systemd-age-verification/
    Why systemd is adding this optional date of birth thing, I thought only OS were asked to implement age verification!!

    Because it's systemd.

  • nemnem Member, Host Rep

    Meta adopted CentOS Stream. Canonical tried to match Red Hat's 10 year lifecycle with a fraction of the revenue, quietly walked-back to 5 year + 5 year paid support lifecycles per Ubuntu Pro. Meta lobbyists put forth the bills to minimize exposure (meta overview).

    I'm sure Red Hat, who has remained curiously quiet, had some dealing in this. Waiting to see how they respond, if at all, to changes.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo TimboJones
  • emperoremperor Member

    @buggedout said:
    https://itsfoss.com/news/systemd-age-verification/
    Why systemd is adding this optional date of birth thing, I thought only OS were asked to implement age verification!!

    There is already project for systemd without age verification. Lets se how it will go.

    Thanked by 2buggedout WyvernCo
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