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Linux age verification laws in California and Colorado

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  • It won't. Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive no matter what ragebait you were fed.

  • @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    It won't. Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive no matter what ragebait you were fed.

    The law tests compliance, not technical implementation. Unobtrusive today, not so much tomorrow.

  • edited March 8

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    It won't. Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive no matter what ragebait you were fed.

    The law tests compliance, not technical implementation. Unobtrusive today, not so much tomorrow.

    I have no idea what you're talking about. Did you read it?

  • kaitkait Member

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    It won't. Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive no matter what ragebait you were fed.

    The law tests compliance, not technical implementation. Unobtrusive today, not so much tomorrow.

    I have no idea what you're talking about. Did you read it?

    I do have an idea what he is talking about because I am not a coke addict called Marshal.

  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited March 8

    Yup, just shifting the responsibilities. It will be an absolutely useless gate, then when bad things happened they will demand ammendment. So, they will shout at the top of their lungs _ "But you had agreed to this! Why can't you just comply to this changes" _.

  • netguynetguy Member

    Another crazy law.

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  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive

    Did you?

    From the NY bill:

    "AGE ASSURANCE" SHALL MEAN ANY METHOD TO REASONABLY DETERMINE THE
    AGE CATEGORY OF A USER, USING METHODS THAT REASONABLY PREVENT AGAINST
    CIRCUMVENTION

    Translation: ID/Face scans.

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A

    That's where this is going. You can keep bootlicking the surveillance state but we all know where this is going.

  • suyadi92suyadi92 Member

    Boobs size verification strikes again?

  • @WyvernCo said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive

    Did you?

    From the NY bill:

    "AGE ASSURANCE" SHALL MEAN ANY METHOD TO REASONABLY DETERMINE THE
    AGE CATEGORY OF A USER, USING METHODS THAT REASONABLY PREVENT AGAINST
    CIRCUMVENTION

    Translation: ID/Face scans.

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A

    That's where this is going. You can keep bootlicking the surveillance state but we all know where this is going.

    Exactly. "Reasonably" is inherently vague so that it can be enforced through any means deemed necessary.

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  • nikionikio Member

    Obviously, the solution is BSD (because it's not Linux!)

    Look, I already ban traffic coming from the EU because of the GDPR, just means I need to not host in the US either with age verification. MJJs, you are about to get competition from digitally-homeless westerners. Can I have American-optimized VPS in Singapore for $7/yr please?

    In all seriousness, the law is retarded, those who support it are evil, the law won't do anything, and only the mainstream shitstain distros will comply anyway; you're just going to need to bring your own ISO or deploy over the top of an existing installation. None of that is new. I already need to do that on providers whose OS selection is Ubuntu 18.04 and AlmaLinux 8. The bigger issue is if the distros will outsource age verification to systemd or something — Ubuntu wanted a new dbus endpoint — so that will mean this will creep into every OS that isn't complying.

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  • edited March 8

    @WyvernCo said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive

    Did you?

    From the NY bill:

    "AGE ASSURANCE" SHALL MEAN ANY METHOD TO REASONABLY DETERMINE THE
    AGE CATEGORY OF A USER, USING METHODS THAT REASONABLY PREVENT AGAINST
    CIRCUMVENTION

    Translation: ID/Face scans.

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A

    That's where this is going. You can keep bootlicking the surveillance state but we all know where this is going.

    This thread is about the California and Colorado laws, which are the same as each other, and a nothingburger. These laws require you to select an age when creating a new user account (not the first account) and require apps with adult-only portions to respect the age setting.

  • PacketraOliverPacketraOliver Member, Patron Provider
    edited March 10

    Tom's Hardware notes, their approach is likely to be labelling the OS as not intended for use in California.

    I very hate people who set laws and try to create laws without having any understanding on how tech works.

    @WyvernCo said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive

    Did you?

    From the NY bill:

    "AGE ASSURANCE" SHALL MEAN ANY METHOD TO REASONABLY DETERMINE THE
    AGE CATEGORY OF A USER, USING METHODS THAT REASONABLY PREVENT AGAINST
    CIRCUMVENTION

    Translation: ID/Face scans.

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A

    That's where this is going. You can keep bootlicking the surveillance state but we all know where this is going.

    This is my worry about it, when you start implementing verification which let say is just Age verification like in many websites you can lie about your age, it opens the door as the Techradar article says, to improve on that later with ID/FACE SCAN.

    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    For now what I think every giant should do is push back and ignore California, essentially if you are from California we don't service you. I can't believe how much crap comes out of California and I am not even from the US and I hear about it.

  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited March 10

    @OpaqueRegistrant It's supposed to be the online platform responsibilities.
    The argument revolves around protecting children from harm. But, how is it possible for an adult to legally consent to harm? If there's anything, it's consent under coercion. Especially when it's impractical to not have an access to the walled garden.
    It's just bureaucratic response that adds another set of requirements , but solved nothing

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  • @PacketraOliver said:

    Tom's Hardware notes, their approach is likely to be labelling the OS as not intended for use in California.

    I very hate people who set laws and try to create laws without having any understanding on how tech works.

    @WyvernCo said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: Did you read the law? It's extremely unobtrusive

    Did you?

    From the NY bill:

    "AGE ASSURANCE" SHALL MEAN ANY METHOD TO REASONABLY DETERMINE THE
    AGE CATEGORY OF A USER, USING METHODS THAT REASONABLY PREVENT AGAINST
    CIRCUMVENTION

    Translation: ID/Face scans.

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A

    That's where this is going. You can keep bootlicking the surveillance state but we all know where this is going.

    This is my worry about it, when you start implementing verification which let say is just Age verification like in many websites you can lie about your age, it opens the door as the Techradar article says, to improve on that later with ID/FACE SCAN.

    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    For now what I think every giant should do is push back and ignore California, essentially if you are from California we don't service you. I can't believe how much crap comes out of California and I am not even from the US and I hear about it.

    Yeah, the endgame is mass censorship. And I’m 99.99% sure the legislators who wrote these bills have no idea how OSes work.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @ServerBachelor said:
    Yeah, the endgame is mass censorship. And I’m 99.99% sure the legislators who wrote these bills have no idea how OSes work.

    The more they censor, the less trust they get, the more people start hiding. Governments think they can control masses; they're wrong - history has proven it multiple times. Control can be increased slowly, but up to a point. I guess only time will tell where this goes and how much populations can tolerate. Even the government of North Korea has to do something right if it lasted this long.

  • emperoremperor Member

    War is already here. More distributions should follow MidnightBSD. Time to switch ? :)

    https://itsfoss.com/news/midnightbsd-age-verification/

  • @emperor said:
    War is already here. More distributions should follow MidnightBSD. Time to switch ? :)

    https://itsfoss.com/news/midnightbsd-age-verification/

    The question is, switch to what?

  • conceptconcept Member

    What if you just never update your OS?

  • @rpqu said:
    @OpaqueRegistrant It's supposed to be the online platform responsibilities.
    The argument revolves around protecting children from harm. But, how is it possible for an adult to legally consent to harm? If there's anything, it's consent under coercion. Especially when it's impractical to not have an access to the walled garden.
    It's just bureaucratic response that adds another set of requirements , but solved nothing

    I think you're mistaken for a BDSM consent form.

    You've lost the plot talking about consenting to harm with an age verification check. Fucking bonkers.

  • @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

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  • forestforest Member
    edited March 12

    @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    Depends on how many "smart devices" and IoT crap you have in your bedroom!

    @rpqu said: But, how is it possible for an adult to legally consent to harm?

    Spank me daddy! (That's how)

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @rpqu said:
    @OpaqueRegistrant It's supposed to be the online platform responsibilities.
    The argument revolves around protecting children from harm. But, how is it possible for an adult to legally consent to harm? If there's anything, it's consent under coercion. Especially when it's impractical to not have an access to the walled garden.
    It's just bureaucratic response that adds another set of requirements , but solved nothing

    I think you're mistaken for a BDSM consent form.

    You've lost the plot talking about consenting to harm with an age verification check. Fucking bonkers.

    Okay, so what's the reason there has to be age verification mechanism? For what purpose?

  • Guru555Guru555 Member

    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @Guru555 said:
    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up.

    Until the cops starts arresting teenager children who's using social media in public

  • Guru555Guru555 Member

    @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:
    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up.

    Until the cops starts arresting teenager children who's using social media in public

    Crime must be zero in California if the police are going to focus on something this trivial. At most, there’ll be a few symbolic cases that aren’t really worth worrying about.

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  • @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    considering people have been crazy enough to connect their bed to the internet, being trackable in bedroom isn't too far fetched

    well at very least the "OS" on microcontroller or IoT devices wont be subjected to this law..right?

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  • PacketraOliverPacketraOliver Member, Patron Provider
    edited March 12

    @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    Can you imagine if everyone was like you and took every single sentence so literally, instant chaos in the world.

  • @PacketraOliver said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @PacketraOliver said:
    In the end everything will be trackable to your bedroom.

    Crazy shit like this tells us what technical level you're at and what crazy level so you can be ignored. Does your bedroom have age stored in it somehow? Unique IP addressThe non-crazy thing to say would be "trackable to a specific person".

    Can you imagine if everyone was like you and took every single sentence so literally, instant chaos in the world.

    The sentence you wrote on its own for emphasis? Don't flip flop, stick by whatever you're saying rather than blaming the reader for reading what you wrote. FFS

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @Guru555 said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:
    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up.

    Until the cops starts arresting teenager children who's using social media in public

    Crime must be zero in California if the police are going to focus on something this trivial. At most, there’ll be a few symbolic cases that aren’t really worth worrying about.

    If the laws isn't upheld, then it has to be deprecated.

  • @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Guru555 said:
    This law won’t really impact regular users; you can simply choose a different country when setting it up.

    Until the cops starts arresting teenager children who's using social media in public

    Crime must be zero in California if the police are going to focus on something this trivial. At most, there’ll be a few symbolic cases that aren’t really worth worrying about.

    If the laws isn't upheld, then it has to be deprecated.

    Abolished? Deprecated isn't really in the law's life cycle.

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