VPS With working route to Iran wanted

johnwinchester · March 11

As you may know the situation with Internet in Iran is crazy to say the least. Almost 2 weeks of near total shutdown, but I've been informed that not all routes/Ips are blocked, i have 3 vps in iran i can share the ips with any provider interested, the vps specs don't matter really a 10gb shared port and some decent hardware to run a vpn software such as xray core or wireguard would be ok.
Please feel free to mention any provider that might be able to help.
Thanks in advance guys

dbadude · March 11

johnwinchesterdrive the ayathola won't like that

default · March 11

If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

Alyx · March 11

Iran's political system is a mix of theocracy and limited democracy, where the Supreme Leader holds ultimate power, and elections are often influenced by the unelected Guardian Council, which disqualifies many candidates. While elections occur, they do not meet full democratic standards due to these restrictions and the control exerted by hardline elements of the government.

@default I would argue that just blaming them for voted the wrong candidate is about as fair as the election itself, considering any real alternatives are already disqualified before the election.

default · March 11

@Alyx said:

Iran's political system is a mix of theocracy and limited democracy, where the Supreme Leader holds ultimate power, and elections are often influenced by the unelected Guardian Council, which disqualifies many candidates. While elections occur, they do not meet full democratic standards due to these restrictions and the control exerted by hardline elements of the government.

@default I would argue that just blaming them for voted the wrong candidate is about as fair as the election itself, considering any real alternatives are already disqualified before the election.

From Wkipedia:

According to the constitution (Article 111), the Assembly of Experts is tasked with electing, supervising, and dismissing the supreme leader.

Also from Wikipedia:

The assembly consists of 88 Mujtahids that are elected from lists of thoroughly vetted candidates by direct public vote for eight-year terms.

Iran has a blend of democracy with theocracy. I am in no position to judge their democracy or their belief. Let them believe whatever they want; let them vote whatever they want. But their belief and their vote must be respected in that country, because the majority has spoken there.

Neoon · March 11

No provider can solve a local cock block.
Same with China and other countries.

layer7 · March 11

@default said:
From Wkipedia:

According to the constitution (Article 111), the Assembly of Experts is tasked with electing, supervising, and dismissing the supreme leader.

Also from Wikipedia:

The assembly consists of 88 Mujtahids that are elected from lists of thoroughly vetted candidates by direct public vote for eight-year terms.

Iran has a blend of democracy with theocracy. I am in no position to judge their democracy or their belief. Let them believe whatever they want; let them vote whatever they want. But their belief and their vote must be respected in that country, because the majority has spoken there.

Hi,

according to this wikipedia, this "list" of "throughly vetted candidates" is compiled by the guardians.

This guardians are the members of the guardians counsel

and

"Half of the Guardian Council members are appointed by the Supreme Leader;"

Maybe i am wrong, but if i put this all together then:

Leader appoints 50% of the guardians by himself AND can dismiss them any time he wants
Leader is leader as long as he is not "incapable of fulfilling his constitutional duties" ( which means not dead or crazy or (too) sick )
Guardians make a list who can be voted

To me, and again, maybe i missunderstood something, there is no way that a name will be on the list to be voted by public against the will of the leader.

IF this is true, then there is no democracy in that. At least i dont see where the public shall have the power to change anything through votes, if all that they can vote are people that are approved by the leader.

Thats like i let my son choose between options i gave to him. At no point he was actually able to make another choice but the ones i allowed him to do. If this is in any meaning democracy then i fundamentally missunderstood something ^^;

Alyx · March 11

@default said: From Wkipedia:
According to the constitution (Article 111), the Assembly of Experts is tasked with electing, supervising, and dismissing the supreme leader.

According to the constitution (Article 27) there is a right to peaceful assembly.
"Public gatherings and marches may be freely held, provided arms are not carried and that they are not detrimental to the fundamental principles of Islam."

This didn't seem to have worked out for those I guess.

"Iran Protest Death Toll Could Top 30,000, According to Local Health Officials"

TheGreatOakley · March 11

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

True, however journalist/activist do need access so they can share news report and show truth. But they are looking for VPN just to watch some PornHub or soap drama.

Murv · March 11

@default said: If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together.

Since you yap a lot about Iran as if you know everything, how many years have you actually lived there?

default · March 11

@Murv said:

@default said: If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together.

Since you yap a lot about Iran as if you know everything, how many years have you actually lived there?

I don't fucking care. Iran citizens should solve their own problems as a majority (democratic, religious, technical, whatever), just like I try with my own country and vote. Nobody is perfect, but one must obey the law - I do respect the laws of my country, so should you with yours. The laws are normally created by people, for people. (Some people think the laws are from a deity, but that's on their belief because technically people wrote laws anyway.)

mans_xd · March 11

poor guy try to hate but cover it with cool sentences

Alyx · March 11

It's always fascinating to see people who couldn't point out the country on a map tell the people actually living there how they should handle their own affairs.

angstrom · March 11

@default said: If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together.

That wasn't so easy back in the days of Ceaușescu in Romania, was it?

angstrom · March 11

In any case, understandably, nothing is normal when a country is under vicious attack

default · March 11

@angstrom said:

@default said: If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together.

That wasn't so easy back in the days of Ceaușescu in Romania, was it?

The fact that I connect from a VPN using HOST_C does not mean I'm from Romania, or that I know with precision what happened there and then. From what I do know, Romanians took protestss to the street and killed their leader and changed the regime. It was common working Romanians who did this because obviously they were too unhappy.

Can Iran do it? Maybe. I don't know. It is not mine to judge. I can't even compare Iran with Romania since obviously these are different cultures. But laws and systems created by people can be changed by people anywhere.

Meanwhile, speaking of systems, thank you for using your moderation power to indirectly dox the connection of someone else by assuming their location. This is highly professional moderation at play.

EDIT: I shall take a moment and say thank you to @host_c for the great service provided so far. This server is quite good as VPN for my use case (I literally have no idea if it works in Iran though).

angstrom · March 11

@default said: Meanwhile, speaking of systems, thank you for using your moderation power to indirectly dox the connection of someone else by assuming their location. This is highly professional moderation at play.

Calm down. You've mentioned Romania indirectly at various times over the years, so my guess is that you're in or close to or know something about Romania. I've never looked at how you connect to the forum, so I'm not doxing you in any way

I was just responding to your comment "If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together" by making reference to the Ceaușescu period in Romania and to how long it took for the majority there to "solve the issue of the government"

jenkki · March 11

In general, it is unclear how you can connect something where, according to reports, the Internet is turned off altogether.

TimboJones · March 11

@default said:

@Murv said:

@default said: If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together.

Since you yap a lot about Iran as if you know everything, how many years have you actually lived there?

I don't fucking care. Iran citizens should solve their own problems as a majority (democratic, religious, technical, whatever), just like I try with my own country and vote. Nobody is perfect, but one must obey the law - I do respect the laws of my country, so should you with yours. The laws are normally created by people, for people. (Some people think the laws are from a deity, but that's on their belief because technically people wrote laws anyway.)

Wow what an asshole you are. Do you also tell beaten wives you don't fucking care because they married their wife beating husband? Tell the women of Afghanistan to solve that shit by voting?

skimply153 · March 11

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

I usually try not to get angry and comment on other people's opinions on the internet, but having seen you comment like this numerous times, I have to say that I get a visceral repulsion at people like you smugly showcasing their moral relativism and majoritarianism when people are facing (state-sanctioned) oppression.

TimboJones · March 11

@default said:
Meanwhile, speaking of systems, thank you for using your moderation power to indirectly dox

Ok, snowflake, I'm sure you just received a barrage of incoming attacks from that non-identifying "dox". GTFO.

default · March 11

@skimply153 said:

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

I usually try not to get angry and comment on other people's opinions on the internet, but having seen you comment like this numerous times, I have to say that I get a visceral repulsion at people like you smugly showcasing their moral relativism and majoritarianism when people are facing (state-sanctioned) oppression.

Feel free to think what you wish. I respect your opinion, even if you feel you're in minority wherever you are. I am no majority by any means; I am simply another vote in my country too (not Iran and not Romania).

xaoc · March 11

I guess my input wasn't needed this time after all, every point I wanted to make was already made, good job guys!

zGato · March 11

There was apparently a leak of all whitelisted TCP & DNS IPs but can't certainly tell you if it's real or not. If it is, quite hard to find a provider with a whitelisted IP since they literally whitelist /32s or in some rare cases /26s or so.
https://t.me/VoidVerge

I scanned the whole list and used IPInfo data to grab the real location and there's a small chunk of subnets that were previously being announced from Iran and are now announced from NL/DE or similar, allowing people to use those as tunnels. Also, surprisingly a lot of AFRINIC IPs are allowed (I assume that's why someone here on LET asked for a server in those ranges)

I was recently told that AWS works now, but I'm not from Iran, so I can't tell you. And for personal use the free tier bandwidth included in your AWS account should be enough, but you'd have to test yourself. If you can ping then it's very likely you can spin up a simple tunnel, but if you push a huge amount of traffic it will get blocked, and considering the current situation, I don't think it will get unblocked afterwards (previously based on my experience the IP would only get blocked for a few hours or maybe a few days but then get unblocked).

Even if ICMP is filtered, there's a small chance that some tunnel methods work. I had luck with backhaul ipx tun last week, but it got censored after I pushed 200GB or so.

MikeA · March 11

@default said:

@skimply153 said:

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

I usually try not to get angry and comment on other people's opinions on the internet, but having seen you comment like this numerous times, I have to say that I get a visceral repulsion at people like you smugly showcasing their moral relativism and majoritarianism when people are facing (state-sanctioned) oppression.

Feel free to think what you wish. I respect your opinion, even if you feel you're in minority wherever you are. I am no majority by any means; I am simply another vote in my country too (not Iran and not Romania).

Option 1. Die, as a single individual, with just your fists, trying to overthrow religious theocracy that's been brainwashing citizens to hate the west for hundreds of years and often kills their own people.
Option 2. Live.

I'd pick Option 2 too, honestly.

Not everyone is blessed to be born in civilized and wealthy parts of the world.

default · March 12

@MikeA said:

@default said:

@skimply153 said:

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

I usually try not to get angry and comment on other people's opinions on the internet, but having seen you comment like this numerous times, I have to say that I get a visceral repulsion at people like you smugly showcasing their moral relativism and majoritarianism when people are facing (state-sanctioned) oppression.

Feel free to think what you wish. I respect your opinion, even if you feel you're in minority wherever you are. I am no majority by any means; I am simply another vote in my country too (not Iran and not Romania).

Option 1. Die, as a single individual, with just your fists, trying to overthrow religious theocracy that's been brainwashing citizens to hate the west for hundreds of years and often kills their own people.
Option 2. Live.

I'd pick Option 2 too, honestly.

Not everyone is blessed to be born in civilized and wealthy parts of the world.

One of the first thing they teach you in army is to die for your country and for your freedom. If you do not believe in your freedom or in your ideologies to die for them, then you do not believe enough in your core ideas. It is simple as that. Sometimes the price is written in blood - it becomes hard when history gets to such inflection point, but it represents an important crossroads as it asks for one's life on the line towards something greater than themselves.

I would choose option 1. I would rather die for my freedom, then live as a slave. I've already put my life on the line before against corruption, and I would do it again, even though I have 3 children to take care of. What kind of model would I be to my children if I would run away from my own beliefs of freedom and peace and justice? What kind of legacy would I leave to my children if that legacy means for them to live as slaves? No! I would choose option 1 in a heartbeat.

I was born poor. I am still poor. I even use a crappy laptop to write these lines. But at least I still exist, ready to die for my family and for others and for global peace.

Keep in mind that even some great religious ideologies have passed the test of blood, with saints and martyrs who died for their beliefs and for their ideas. This is why those ideas lasted and still manage to fuel some religious hearts today. Surely there are cowards and corrupted holy leaders who use them for manipulation and brainwashing, but still religious ideas lasted because some crazy people chose to die for their own beliefs. I guess what I am trying to say is that even nowadays, some people still wish to believe in something greater than themselves, to die for something greater than themselves, something that aspires to last an eternity if possible.

In my case freedom represents something to die for, whether it is freedom of life, freedom of expression, freedom of education, or even freedom of internet. It's just a noble death, even though it is likely to be regarded as meaningless in the eyes of others, I am crazy enough to consider it worth it, not for myself nor for eternity, but for now and for others.

As a side note: I don't know the particularities or nuances of your life; nor do I blame you in any way, shape or form for your way of thinking. I merely stated how I see things.

puffypinguin · March 12

@default said:

@MikeA said:

@default said:

@skimply153 said:

@default said:
If your government limits you, please solve the issue of the government as a majority together. Bypassing your legislation is not the way, because it only turns you into someone breaking the laws of your country. You need to address the issue where the issue has its roots (if there even is an issue, since majority decides by vote in Iran). Providers are not in the business of helping people break the laws of their own countries (set by leaders who majority voted and believes in). Each culture has its values which should be respected there, because people's majority chose those values by vote.

I usually try not to get angry and comment on other people's opinions on the internet, but having seen you comment like this numerous times, I have to say that I get a visceral repulsion at people like you smugly showcasing their moral relativism and majoritarianism when people are facing (state-sanctioned) oppression.

Feel free to think what you wish. I respect your opinion, even if you feel you're in minority wherever you are. I am no majority by any means; I am simply another vote in my country too (not Iran and not Romania).

Option 1. Die, as a single individual, with just your fists, trying to overthrow religious theocracy that's been brainwashing citizens to hate the west for hundreds of years and often kills their own people.
Option 2. Live.

I'd pick Option 2 too, honestly.

Not everyone is blessed to be born in civilized and wealthy parts of the world.

One of the first thing they teach you in army is to die for your country and for your freedom. If you do not believe in your freedom or in your ideologies to die for them, then you do not believe enough in your core ideas. It is simple as that. Sometimes the price is written in blood - it becomes hard when history gets to such inflection point, but it represents an important crossroads as it asks for one's life on the line towards something greater than themselves.

I would choose option 1. I would rather die for my freedom, then live as a slave. I've already put my life on the line before against corruption, and I would do it again, even though I have 3 children to take care of. What kind of model would I be to my children if I would run away from my own beliefs of freedom and peace and justice? What kind of legacy would I leave to my children if that legacy means for them to live as slaves? No! I would choose option 1 in a heartbeat.

I was born poor. I am still poor. I even use a crappy laptop to write these lines. But at least I still exist, ready to die for my family and for others and for global peace.

Keep in mind that even some great religious ideologies have passed the test of blood, with saints and martyrs who died for their beliefs and for their ideas. This is why those ideas lasted and still manage to fuel some religious hearts today. Surely there are cowards and corrupted holy leaders who use them for manipulation and brainwashing, but still religious ideas lasted because some crazy people chose to die for their own beliefs. I guess what I am trying to say is that even nowadays, some people still wish to believe in something greater than themselves, to die for something greater than themselves, something that aspires to last an eternity if possible.

In my case freedom represents something to die for, whether it is freedom of life, freedom of expression, freedom of education, or even freedom of internet. It's just a noble death, even though it is likely to be regarded as meaningless in the eyes of others, I am crazy enough to consider it worth it, not for myself nor for eternity, but for now and for others.

As a side note: I don't know the particularities or nuances of your life; nor do I blame you in any way, shape or form for your way of thinking. I merely stated how I see things.

He is asking for a provider in a difficult situation, if you cannot help better stop giving unwanted political long texts

forest · March 12

@default said: Nobody is perfect, but one must obey the law

Why? Because people with guns say so?

itachikonoha · March 12

@layer7 said:

@default said:
From Wkipedia:

According to the constitution (Article 111), the Assembly of Experts is tasked with electing, supervising, and dismissing the supreme leader.

Also from Wikipedia:

The assembly consists of 88 Mujtahids that are elected from lists of thoroughly vetted candidates by direct public vote for eight-year terms.

Iran has a blend of democracy with theocracy. I am in no position to judge their democracy or their belief. Let them believe whatever they want; let them vote whatever they want. But their belief and their vote must be respected in that country, because the majority has spoken there.

Hi,

according to this wikipedia, this "list" of "throughly vetted candidates" is compiled by the guardians.

This guardians are the members of the guardians counsel

and

"Half of the Guardian Council members are appointed by the Supreme Leader;"

Maybe i am wrong, but if i put this all together then:

Leader appoints 50% of the guardians by himself AND can dismiss them any time he wants

Leader is leader as long as he is not "incapable of fulfilling his constitutional duties" ( which means not dead or crazy or (too) sick )

Guardians make a list who can be voted

To me, and again, maybe i missunderstood something, there is no way that a name will be on the list to be voted by public against the will of the leader.

IF this is true, then there is no democracy in that. At least i dont see where the public shall have the power to change anything through votes, if all that they can vote are people that are approved by the leader.

Thats like i let my son choose between options i gave to him. At no point he was actually able to make another choice but the ones i allowed him to do. If this is in any meaning democracy then i fundamentally missunderstood something ^^;

But does true democracy exists though?

I feel democracy is just a facade of glorious feudalism (in practice). Especially in third world countries. Throw some bones to the common people in the name of subsidy and let the votes sway regardless what the political party has performed.

Election is costly and there will be investors. When you come to power, it is time for you to make policies which will benefit those investors so that in next selection, you get your fund.

Democracy seems like a utopian dream.

gbzret4d · March 12

Guys open another thread this is so off-topic. Member asked something and everyone is getting into a political debate so answer him and get back 2 topic

oloke · March 12

@zGato said:
Also, surprisingly a lot of AFRINIC IPs are allowed (I assume that's why someone here on LET asked for a server in those ranges)

Yeah, I can confirm. The person asked because they had a working tunnel shared by some Iranian VPN provider. It was hosted on Microsoft Azure in South Africa. Apparently some IP addresses of Azure ZA were (or still are) accessible from Iran, but I was not able to independently verify this.

However their tunnel IP stopped responding to pings yesterday and I assume that's why the OP is MIA. Could be similar situation with this thread's OP. Either tunnels are short lived or Iran is actively blocking them after a while.

Thanks for the info zGato.

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