Kimsufi/Soyoustart/OVH Rise New Price

Neoon · March 8

@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go

Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.

LBF · March 8

Anyone took a gamble with a KS-4 in Warsaw? 2x 4TB instead of 2x 2TB?

plumberg · March 8

@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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  "processorName": "XeonD1541",
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        "unit": "GB",
        "value": 4000
      },
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      "diskGroupId": 1,
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  ],
  "expansionCards": null,
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  "formFactor": "1u",
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I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go
Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.

BHS is better for me, but I am in to gambling 🎰

barbarza · March 8

@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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  "motherboard": "X10SDV-TLN4F-B",
  "processorName": "XeonD1541",
  "diskGroups": [
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      "diskType": "SATA",
      "diskSize": {
        "unit": "GB",
        "value": 4000
      },
      "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
      "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
      "description": "4 X Disk SATA 4000 GB, JBOD",
      "diskGroupId": 1,
      "numberOfDisks": 4,
      "raidController": null
    }
  ],
  "expansionCards": null,
  "coresPerProcessor": 8,
  "formFactor": "1u",
  "processorArchitecture": "x86_64",
  "description": "KS-2 | Intel Xeon-D 1540 - Intel Xeon-D 1540",
  "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
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I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go
Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.
BHS is better for me, but I am in to gambling 🎰

16TB KS-2s are like 50% in LIM and 10% in BHS

DevCommand · March 8

Is anyone handing in their KS-Mystery in Europe?

plumberg · March 8

@barbarza said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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  "usbKeys": null,
  "motherboard": "X10SDV-TLN4F-B",
  "processorName": "XeonD1541",
  "diskGroups": [
    {
      "diskType": "SATA",
      "diskSize": {
        "unit": "GB",
        "value": 4000
      },
      "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
      "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
      "description": "4 X Disk SATA 4000 GB, JBOD",
      "diskGroupId": 1,
      "numberOfDisks": 4,
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  "expansionCards": null,
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  "formFactor": "1u",
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  "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
  "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
  "bootMode": "uefi",
  "memorySize": {
    "value": 32768,
    "unit": "MB"
  },
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  "numberOfProcessors": 1
}
I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go
Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.
BHS is better for me, but I am in to gambling 🎰
16TB KS-2s are like 50% in LIM and 10% in BHS

Hmmm
Any with 10g symmetrical with 4tb so far?

marc1976 · March 8

Yesterday I got my server

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz (2.10 GHz)
32 GB RAM
4x4 TB
10 GBiT down and 500 MBiT up.
Location: Limburg

barbarza · March 8

@plumberg said:
@barbarza said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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  "usbKeys": null,
  "motherboard": "X10SDV-TLN4F-B",
  "processorName": "XeonD1541",
  "diskGroups": [
    {
      "diskType": "SATA",
      "diskSize": {
        "unit": "GB",
        "value": 4000
      },
      "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
      "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
      "description": "4 X Disk SATA 4000 GB, JBOD",
      "diskGroupId": 1,
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    }
  ],
  "expansionCards": null,
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  "formFactor": "1u",
  "processorArchitecture": "x86_64",
  "description": "KS-2 | Intel Xeon-D 1540 - Intel Xeon-D 1540",
  "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
  "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
  "bootMode": "uefi",
  "memorySize": {
    "value": 32768,
    "unit": "MB"
  },
  "threadsPerProcessor": 16,
  "numberOfProcessors": 1
}
I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go
Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.
BHS is better for me, but I am in to gambling 🎰
16TB KS-2s are like 50% in LIM and 10% in BHS
Hmmm
Any with 10g symmetrical with 4tb so far?

Haven't been that lucky

Neoon · March 8

@marc1976 said:
Yesterday I got my server

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz (2.10 GHz)
32 GB RAM
4x4 TB
10 GBiT down and 500 MBiT up.
Location: Limburg

Welcome to the club.
16TB rulez.

Neoon · March 8

@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
@plumberg said:
@Neoon said:
OVH has delivered, I am moist, we got a winner.
Frankfurt delivered the KS2 finally.
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  "usbKeys": null,
  "motherboard": "X10SDV-TLN4F-B",
  "processorName": "XeonD1541",
  "diskGroups": [
    {
      "diskType": "SATA",
      "diskSize": {
        "unit": "GB",
        "value": 4000
      },
      "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
      "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
      "description": "4 X Disk SATA 4000 GB, JBOD",
      "diskGroupId": 1,
      "numberOfDisks": 4,
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    }
  ],
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  "formFactor": "1u",
  "processorArchitecture": "x86_64",
  "description": "KS-2 | Intel Xeon-D 1540 - Intel Xeon-D 1540",
  "defaultHardwareRaidSize": null,
  "defaultHardwareRaidType": null,
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    "value": 32768,
    "unit": "MB"
  },
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}
I read weiner

But congratulations 🎊
The drives are below 60k too, one is 30k.
I can't get better, need to YABS it though.
Would be a banger to get 10gbps symmetrical with 4x4tb
One can always get more yerect
Sadly its only 10gig down.
Ohhhhh dang

But 4x4tb is still awesome

I miss the sys server offer from many moons ago where I was able to snag a 4x4tb and enter the 16tb club

But had to let go
Just setup Chicken Nugget for Frankfurt, its gonna take a few days prob a week for restock though.
BHS is better for me, but I am in to gambling 🎰

go for Frankfurt, its like 100ms away, well connected. good enough for linux iso's.

marc1976 · March 8

go for Frankfurt, its like 100ms away, well connected. good enough for linux iso's.

Yes 16 TB of Linux ISO's

Neoon · March 8

@marc1976 said:

go for Frankfurt, its like 100ms away, well connected. good enough for linux iso's.

Yes 16 TB of Linux ISO's

Raid 1 is gonna be like 7TB ish usable.
Plus you got plenty of bandwidth and a CPU to transcode the linux iso's.

plumberg · March 8

@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

Neoon · March 8

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

plumberg · March 8

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

Neoon · March 8

@plumberg said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

New Qwen 3.5, with vision.
Pictures work fucking great.

barbarza · March 8

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

New Qwen 3.5, with vision.
Pictures work fucking great.

Have you tried the 9B version? Meant to be quite impressive.

LBF · March 8

@barbarza said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

New Qwen 3.5, with vision.
Pictures work fucking great.

Have you tried the 9B version? Meant to be quite impressive.

It is, actually. Does 3 t/s on an E5-1620v2.

Neoon · March 9

@barbarza said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

New Qwen 3.5, with vision.
Pictures work fucking great.

Have you tried the 9B version? Meant to be quite impressive.

Why try 9B if you can have 122B.
I paid for 64gig, I am gonna use it.

Neoon · March 9

@LBF said:

@barbarza said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:

@Neoon said:

@plumberg said:
@Neoon howz llms treating the le‐b?

Whats the word on the street?

it gets molested by a 122B model.

O spicy
Which 122b model ?

New Qwen 3.5, with vision.
Pictures work fucking great.

Have you tried the 9B version? Meant to be quite impressive.

It is, actually. Does 3 t/s on an E5-1620v2.

Yea, LLM's on E5 isn't great, neither EPYC.
Xeon G as mystery was actually the best you could get.

But for 10$ running a 122B model, is fine for me.

tux · March 9

E3-1270v6 is not very fast running LLM models.

Neoon · March 9

@tux said:
E3-1270v6 is not very fast running LLM models.

I mostly run optimized quants, can't complain for 10€/m.
Its never gonna be fast compared to a GPU.

Pandy · March 9

@Neoon said:

@tux said:
E3-1270v6 is not very fast running LLM models.

I mostly run optimized quants, can't complain for 10€/m.
Its never gonna be fast compared to a GPU.

out of curiosity, what kinds of optimisations have you done to run these better on pure cpu? software and prompt related

for reference, i noticed a "big" speedup switching to ik_llama.cpp, but im unsure if its purely for the newer qwen models or related to the cpu model im using. i feel like i still need to do something to the prompt prosessing/context, as it starts feeling quite slow couple messages in as it seems to be quite verbose

allthemtings · March 9

Freshly baked baguette on this monday morning?

Neoon · March 9

@Pandy said:

@Neoon said:

@tux said:
E3-1270v6 is not very fast running LLM models.

I mostly run optimized quants, can't complain for 10€/m.
Its never gonna be fast compared to a GPU.

out of curiosity, what kinds of optimisations have you done to run these better on pure cpu? software and prompt related

for reference, i noticed a "big" speedup switching to ik_llama.cpp, but im unsure if its purely for the newer qwen models or related to the cpu model im using. i feel like i still need to do something to the prompt prosessing/context, as it starts feeling quite slow couple messages in as it seems to be quite verbose

The main issue, is the memory bandwidth, at least we got DDR4.
DDR5 would be nicer, but cost more way more with a recent CPU.

@crunchbits I think they sold a VM with a dedicated 3090 for 150$/m if its in stock.
Hetzner sold a 1080 Dedi for 90€/m.

We are sitting on 64gig DDR4 dedis for 12$/m.
That's the best we can do.

I did compile it with different parameters, changed the batch sizes and so on.
And, always use quants, especially on CPU, never go full model on these.

OhJohn · March 9

GLM-4.7 is currently the best self-hosted in the coding area I'd say (yes, I'm not at 5 atrm).

tux · March 9

Newer CPUs gives much better performance when running LLM models than old Kaby Lake server CPU from 2017.

Neoon · March 9

@tux said:
Newer CPUs gives much better performance when running LLM models than old Kaby Lake server CPU from 2017.

Sure, power is expensive, its cheaper for me to rent a baguette with subsidized nuclear power than hosting it yourself, at least here.

Maybe we get some cheap Ryzens soonTM.

barbarza · March 9

@Neoon said:

@tux said:
Newer CPUs gives much better performance when running LLM models than old Kaby Lake server CPU from 2017.

Maybe we get some cheap Ryzens soonTM.

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Beanzy · March 10

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