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How to parent: by clicking the "I'm under 18" checkbox that doesn't currently exist but is mandated by this law.
No!
Project the line 10 years ahead.
What do you see?
Luckily we still have Debian and Alma and Rocky and Mint and even FreeBSD.
I think you mean
fsckHmm. So first the government says children can't buy beer. Next the government says children can't buy candy. Next the government says children can't eat anything containing sugar. Next the government says children can't eat things. We have to stop this madness! Let children buy beer!
or maybe that's actually a stupid way of thinking.
And because this got buried at the bottom of the page last time: please read the damn law before commenting. It's nothing like Brian Lunduke says it is.
What's the point? That's for amateurs. The only complete solution is to give a blood or DNA sample.
Needle insertion on the Start button for example.
Congratulations on not reading or critically thinking about exactly what I said.
I called it a failure on parents because younger people do not understand that sometimes the shit they step into is actually really bad and weren't taught any form of online safety. The parents give the kids ipads, laptops whatever without actually teaching and supervising in the early stages or understanding one needs to be careful on the Internet. Young people are extremely vulnerable and easily manipulated. Do you not understand that?
You clearly have no clue and I have seen some young people say and act horribly because they themselves were subjected to horrible shit. They're the ones that are backed into a corner and need help. Much like our politicians recognize and understand that the parents need help but are doing it completely the fucking wrong way and deservedly should be criticized.
I'm glad we have a parent or two in this thread who understands it's their responsibility to bring up a child. That makes me smile, and I trust them to do an excellent job considering they are very aware of the dangers... However most parents are not like @default so you end up with the above and God knows what else.
You and I agree. This law is dumb as fuck, however I do not believe you and I share the same perspective so try and read into it again. I administrate a few big communities. Those communities happen to be game franchises and they also attract a younger side(it's not Roblox thank God).
I have seen some shit yo and this is my perspective. Why I said hotlines and all is because that's the only option available, think those parents are gonna do shit?
But where's the fun in that? Reading a law text and trying to understand the actual facts when you can just make things up.
I read the law. @emgh point is still standing. This is how it starts. Wait until it's not "good enough."
Note: stolen meme from somik's LES post
How can you agree parents should childproof their kids' devices, and also believe kids' devices shouldn't have a childproofing setting? Do you think a childproofing setting is good except when the government says it must exist?
Let me offer alternative perspective:
Have you ever been told not to follow or accept things from stranger?
You're likely to be told by your parents or guardians about this too often, even into adulthood. Because anything that befallen to the child, it's their parents fault.
If a child are fallen behind at developmental skills, it's either because of developmental problem or their parents didn't taught them. And that's a child neglect a form of child abuse.
As @MaxTakeba told, certain parents just gave them iPad and other type of devices with internet connection. If they're supervised, it will be mostly fine. But, this negligence is carried over when the kids started doing 2-way communication between online players.
When the child
didn't know the do and don'twhen interacting over the internet, it is fatal.Here's a real life story, although it doesn't happened over the internet.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2026/02/1382016/monster-mothers-horror-after-maid-allegedly-grooms-two-daughters
.I will never forget the day my friend told me my previous maid had been exposed as a sexual predator."_
From the outset, Ana said, the helper impressed everyone.
"This helper walks in and she just blows us away with her skills. Super communicative, always taking initiative and offering to do things I hadn't thought of yet.
"She was also an excellent driver. We began to rely on her to drive us or the kids to appointments or outings.
"She had an easy smile and laugh and presented herself in a really competent, high-energy manner, that also translated really well to all three children. We all instantly loved her," Ana said.
The helper quickly embedded herself into the rhythms of the family's daily life, including school runs, day trips, bedtime routines and evenings when Ana and her husband attended social functions.
When the agreed period ended and the helper returned to her original employer, Ana said, her emotional farewell stood out.
"I was a bit surprised at the amount of tears. Matilda was a great employer and a good friend, so she would continue to be well taken care of and we would of course stay in touch.
"Now I suspect she just didn't want to start over on whatever grooming she had started with my girls."
Months later, Ana received the call that would upend everything. The helper had allegedly been caught producing deeply disturbing video material involving Matilda's child.
The revelation forced Ana to revisit every memory.
After the helper left, Ana said her middle child began withdrawing, struggling academically and falling ill frequently.At the time, Ana sought advice from school counsellors, but attributed the changes to normal childhood fluctuations.
"I was, of course, concerned at the time. I also spoke to school counsellors. But you hear many stories about how expat kids go through periods of up and down and schoolchildren are always subjected to more viral and communal diseases, so I didn't think anything more sinister could have been the answer."
Her youngest daughter also drew concern from teachers.
Teachers, she said, had noted that her youngest would get very upset and would try to cover herself with her arms or hide when the teacher or classmates would touch her as part of morning counting.
"She would also show discomfort during more dynamic elements with certain music and more unpredictable movement in class.
"I distinctly remember saying it sounded a lot like what her sister was going through, but perhaps naively concluded that she was just copying her sister, on account of them being so close in age.
"Again, I didn't stop to think at the time that it could be connected to her time alone and unsupervised with this vile helper, but, of course, I do so now."
Looking back, Ana questions whether the helper's professionalism masked something more sinister.
"The maid took videos of the girls all the time, which I thought was cultural, but perhaps she was desensitising them to being on camera all the time."She would send pictures of my youngest crying, saying 'if she is still upset when you come home, it's because I wouldn't buy her a toy'.
"Now I think, 'is that really why she was upset?' And is it not a bit violating taking pictures of someone who is clearly upset?
"Where did she actually go, when she took the girls out? And on that family vacation,
when my middle child had an absolute meltdown when our scuba instructor tried to touch her to adjust her vest, was that a reaction to previous abuse?"Every episode has become an object of scrutiny with these new, horrible lenses."
As the next school year began, the emotional toll intensified. Ana and her husband sought specialist therapy for their daughters.
"They were both very sad to leave me every morning. While my middle child just withdrew more and more, my youngest was getting very angry, threatening to kill everyone, puffing herself up and trying to look dangerous, which I was told by the therapist was a normal response in trying to protect herself."
Therapy did not result in explicit disclosures, which was what happened for Matilda's family. However, Ana said there were troubling signs.
"During the period of therapy, my girls would make off-colour comments at home, showing knowledge about adult arousal and sex, as well as asking for inappropriate touches.
"It is hard to think of those moments as coincidental or innocent, knowing what monster we had let into our home."
Thus, the parent in this story failed to teach their kids not to let people touch them or even report what the maid did with them
It's not coincidence the development deficit (on internet communications) occurred on the "digital native". As whoever nutjob who coined the term implies, "Throw resources at them and they will figure it out". Simplistic, but fail-deadly because they're left at the mercy of other people who figured it out that
they're incredibly naive and could be taken advantage of.The one at fault is the parents and the anti-teaching critical thinking extremist.
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yeah so its just a step 1 to actively identifying users of computers as the start, then locking down the bootloader of PCs to force usage of "Secure" operating systems (Windows) to stop Microsoft's userbase from fleeing from their horseshit OS. Then the icing on the cake will be forcing users to only be able to use cloud based PCs and their device is simply a thin client with full decryption of all traffic to "protect the kids". the peak will be only allowing access to the internet with a smartcard or face scan (palantir, think TSA).
Other countries step 1 to actively identify users of computers, was to actively identify users of computers, while California now has this new law that says you can't actively identify users of computers and if you actively identify users of computers, you get in trouble. Why would they write that law if the goal was to actively identify users of computers? The lack of thinking in this forum is amazing. It's like someone writes "age verification" in the title of a thread and everyone's brain turns off.
yoursunny summer host Inc plans to conform to California age verification laws with the following methods.
For our online forms:
For our IPv9 VPS products:
addusercommand has been uninstalled.because the US government is inherently evil and deceptive. they make rules/legislation so they can use them as a stepping stone. this has always been the case. it's just another slippery slope scenario to force the hand.
Right on the money.
Don't have kids if you're not willing to spend a life time teaching your kids lessons that you were taught previously.> @OpaqueRegistrant said:
Why are we quoting something I said and MannDude did not?
Either way I'll answer your question by asking where did I say I agreed that parents should childproof kids devices?
If you read into it further, you'll get the idea that parents should be teaching their kids about online safety, that there are genuinely fucking awful people on there and to look out for signs. I'm very consistent in that this is on the parents. If you don't be there for your kid, then they won't come to you.
If you're still so angry and can't understand that then I don't know how else to say it in a way you'll understand.
So if I understand this argument correctly, it's saying the law against murder is bad, because murder being illegal is a stepping stone to owning a kitchen knife being illegal.
More and more countries and states are requiring some form of age verification. It doesn't matter if they are Republican or Democrat, they are both pushing stuff like this. Even EU has Digital Services Act which requires platforms like X to use "age assurance methods" to protect minors from social media content. There will always be around this.
I find it wild that many in the US government were yelling "Big Tech companies are inherently bad" but allow tech companies to collect data and to self regulate and ensure no minors are looking at explicit materials.
this law is about none of that. Did you read it?
yes, I am aware. We are only getting closer to that reality in CA.
By mandating that OSes must have a child lock option that parents can select, and making all the other tracking stuff illegal...?
There is already OS level child lock option on iOS and Android for example but that is not enough for the government. Just because tracking is illegal does not stop tech companies and government from doing it.
Happy I'm using Arch.
@OpaqueRegistrant As posted earlier, the New York version is requiring OS-level ID scans / facial scanning. Maybe it gets watered down before passing, but also maybe not -- the community concerns are not hypothetical.
ubu(r)ntu no?
u-burnt-u
Shitty parents blame something else because they did a shitty job raising their shitty kids.