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You lot who are attacking the OP are completely wrong. You suggest that he expected something for free:
1. His time is not free.
2. By definition, the agreement was advertising for the service. He worked as an advertiser/advertisement. Period.
"Maybe it's just my generation..." Oh, please.
Agreements are agreements. Offers are offers.
They did not treat him well. They did not fulfill their end of the agreement. Period.
yes this thread has gotten quite silly. i am surprised the topic hasn't been adjusted though, it's certainly not a scam.
The whole offer seemed like a scam from the beginning. > @roblowend said:
Yeah, when I saw the offer originally it seemed like a terrible deal. They were really picky about who they'd even accept links from and you had to promote it from your site in a way that looked like you were endorsing them before you'd even had an opportunity to test the service. All for a VPS worth maybe $40/y? That's fantastic value for their marketing team, less so for whoever agreed to it.
I would not say that I wouldn't mind it, it's not like it's something I would enjoy, but that does not mean I let my feelings run haywire and react erratic.
I am well aware that I am a minority, it seems most people react on feelings alone no matter how insane that makes them look.
Not delivering on agreed upon terms after "payment" is done is certainly and definitely a scam.
I wouldn't categorize OP's post as haywire, erratic, or insane behavior. That seems like hyperbole.
I would say claiming scam on a public forum for not getting something that you have paid nothing for and is not entitled to is pretty erratic, but I guess we are different.
And I did not say that op went haywire, I said his feelings went haywire, which made him behave erratic. Actually, I did not even say that, but I can see how you could interpret it that way so I go along with it.
The insane part was a general statement, it did not reference op in any way.
but having fulfilled his end of the obligations, isn't he entitled?
genuinely amuses me that "entitled" has evolved a negative connotation.
That is entirely up to Evolution Host to decide. I have not looked into the deal in detail but I would be very surprised if the contract does not include a clause that gives Evolution Host the right to decline this offer on whatever grounds they see fit at any time.
If the contract does in fact give op a right to demand that Evolution Host delivers a server to op solely based on whatever obligations he fullfilled then I would change my opinion and side with op, but I highly doubt that it does.
It is a shame, but it is a natural consequence of how entitled people think they are to things they are very often not entitled to at all. What used to be a legal term is now more of a word that describes a personality trait. I find it more sad than amusing, but it is what it is.
For it to be a scam, it needs intent from the start. Given that a different person responded than who initially responded, it's more logical the first person made a mistake.
Given that there actually are websites doing this, it can definitely be argued this is not a scam.
But they already decided and then later revoked that decision after OP already upheld his part of the contract. Not all contracts need to be written in legalese. If I tell you that I'll give you a buck if you take a picture of your feet and you agree and do so and I change my mind after you uphold your side of the deal, I'm on the hook even no one signed any documents.
All loquacious legalese and a signature does is eliminate ambiguity so that it's easier to prove that all parties are on the same page with regards to whether or not the contract was entered into, what exactly the terms are, etc. This is why written contracts are important: It makes the agreement far more clear so no one has to argue intention.
@angstrom Dear moderator, could you please change the title of the post?
I think the title proposed by forest is better:
What's free is the most expensive.
I was scammed by this thread. I expected drama but the OP was reasonable and learned a valuable lesson.
The worst!
I can't see any mention of an adhoc termination clause on either the offer's thread, their communication linked in OP, or even their main ToS. It was a pretty basic barter contract, the OP seemingly provided his service as described, and the host failed to deliver on their commitment.
Yeah the OP hasn't lost anything physical, only some lost time and the feeling of being taken advantage of perhaps. Still, the decent thing for the host to do after making such a 'mistake', would be to at least explain why he's now being rejected, and maybe offer a lower service (which they mention in their thread) even temporarily.
Bada bing bada boom, problem solved.
What kind of VPS is it they were offering you (Specs, location)? And how much exposure does your website and Github actually get (is it worth it?) - if it's with enough traffic to them, shit, I'll make you the same offer if it's worth it. lol
What? so there is absolutely no legitimate free VDS, VPS or anything similar being offered here?
Nope. Exchanging a server for backlinks is a barter transaction, not a free service, as the user provides value (SEO benefits) in exchange for the resource
It took me a long time to notice this comment. They promised a Business VPS Package(4vCPU/4GB RAM/80GB Storage) and then reneged on it
. My blog is just a small personal blog, with quarterly traffic of about 33k+ UV and 70k+PV.
I don’t believe in free VPS anymore (except Oracle) haha, but wish you a great sale!
We still offer a free VPS provided you are developing Open Source and match our criteria (link in sig).
Mike
I see this a lot, It's a very dumb point to argue with. You lose both time and effort and you also get pissed the whole day whether you like it or not. If you put this much effort and was dismissed like that you would feel the same, thats just human nature. So stop mocking people's emotions.
Thank you Mike!
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I got a free LXC VM from @Neoon and it was enough for me to learn the shell command line. (Thanks MicroLXC
I'm not very good at programming yet, but I'm currently learning Python Flask, and I hope I get the chance to apply for your awesome FoSSVPS one day!
Thank you again for your kindness and I hope you all have a great day!
@DejavuMoe Once you have a good project you will be welcome to have a free VPS but you likely need a bit more experience first.
Wishing you well
Mike