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MXroute - Limited $5/year promo
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damn i missed this promo
this is very much true. it's so cringe that two individuals suddenly going all out against a provider as if they got paid for it (hmmmm..maybe they do?).
if jar indeed staying away from LET then whatever they tried to accomplish is done. other users and future users that need email service just get the L.
as an outsider it's just so ridiculous pinning jar for one decision that has weight on other matters (like, the customer itself already an asshat and still adding more problem with a review). don't you have empathy and try to think even for few seconds what would you do in their shoes?.
then proceed to cries in LET making a list of "You should not blablabla". like, who the fuck even are you lmao. if you want to create the business rule, then do it on your own business. not telling off someone in mongolian chancla crafting forum to follow your rules.
now i agree with this statement.
Well that's rude. If you read up on what happened, you'd see that Wyvern had an issue with jar terminating people for (in part) giving bad reviews after he admitted to doing so, and I said I agreed that it was a problem. Then jar went off the handle and I (and others) called him out on his behavior. That's all. No need to make it bigger than it is and claiming that anyone "went all out" against him. I think I've been extremely polite the entire time, considering the circumstances.
Kinda with @ScreenReader on this one, from the outside looking in at least. Seems like one dude's beef with a provider got turned into the 2 people following said provider around kinda being jerks until he left.
I followed no one and only engaged in threads that were already discussing the situation. For what it's worth, I have nothing against his service, but I had to agree with Wyvern that leaving retaliatory reviews against customers is bad practice.
Jar is definitely hot-headed. That doesn't mean his product is bad, but to be honest, he really did throw a bit of a fit cursing people out, insulting people's intelligence, and making threats (including against me). I see no reason not to respond to someone and tell them they are engaging in unprofessional behavior if they do so, regardless of the quality of their service.
Perhaps there's a backstory with him that I don't know (given that people apparently follow him to harass him), but I would like to state for the record that I have nothing against him, do not hate his business, and had no desire for him to leave.
(I am psycho though, that part is true)
You guys are obviously being played. A bunch of us called out jar's bad behavior in the other thread, he felt the tide of opinion starting to sway opinion against him and so he responds by doing a massive discount to garner sympathy and profit off the situation. He wants to play martyr because we had the audacity to call him out on some objectively shitty business behavior that would get any other provider in trouble.
He already got the criticism thread locked while this retaliatory sales thread stayed up for the entire length of the sale. Fair criticism got shut down, but he still got to profit off it. Guess it's good to be a sponsor after all, eh? His request to shut down the criticism went through, but my request to not be used in this coupon code promotion got ignored by mods. He got exactly what he wanted with zero consequences and made money doing it.
There's no reason to feel bad for this guy.
As someone who knows a "tiny bit" about the 1st amendment and trademarks (not to mention the real business world), I laughed at your "request" thinking it was a clever LET-style joke. Until I saw the above, I still thought it had to be a joke.
I didn't see you posting about the most recent scammers on LET; your grandmotherly policing here seems a bit out of proportion.
In fairness, one can request something without having the ability to legally force the request to be honored.
The guy's name was put in a promo meant to insult him. I can understand why he's upset. Personally I don't mind my own name being in there because it's funny, but I can only speak for myself.
I have to disagree here. People have nuance in their life and to consider that just because they spoke against a particular provider in one aspect means that they are bought by the competition is some silly idea.
Of course, the community got our 5$ deal from all of this and so obviously the community's happy from this beef and wish to side to the provider.
For what its worth, I read that thread and forest/wyvern aren't complaining about the stability/reliability of Mxroute. They are only showing criticism to something which they thought was wrong.
I think that they stood up for what they believed and to be honest, I think I would've been mad if I would've been called pyscho in such a way by jar but looks like forest has become chill about it but obviously aside from the deal, one does realize that this is a little dramatic.
I remember forest actually doubling down on xhosts.uk scenario recently as well. I think that they value freedom of speech judging from the fact that they run tor nodes and they tried using that same freedom of speech when they felt like it was getting impeached for anybody (In this case the person who might leave bad review)
I actually have no beef in this situation and perhaps would've bought the 5$ deal. For fun sake, call me salty that I didn't get the deal but if I got or not, that's besides the point. I think the point is to judge that thread and this with your own morals and come to your own decisions.
That being said, I can't help but wonder how the same things done by Velox (GDPR violations/ if I remember correctly deleting customers etc. ) was treated because Velox also demanded a increase in pay up whereas with the mxroute "controversy" the community treats it 180 because the community itself benefitted from this beef from getting great deals.
So do we judge a provider based on solely the factor of what deal they are offering without taking anything else into consideration and now the way I am seeing it, you are attacking forest/wyvernCo because jars is no longer providing deals in LET and that's somehow their fault?
Actually this is the most ironical situation but you could've bought the product (which is good in all technical regards) and complain about the controversy if you feel like jar may've done something wrong ie. you could've bought the 5$ deal from jar and complained about the controversy as well but the whole controversy itself was because of the very fact as well.
I love saving money as well because I think I am a frugal person but part of that frugality to me means that money isn't as important benchmark after a certain period. Idk its hard to explain so I'd better not but I am just saying what I feel at the moment about the whole situation.
It seems that forest has also made a good comment responding to ya. I don't think that anyone's questioning if MXRoute's servers/services are good/reliable or not but just some skepticism/criticism about how certain things were handled and perhaps (are still being handled?)
Pretty much this. I don't like anything that creates a chilling effect, such as retaliatory reviews. Even if one particular customer was abusive and deserved it, doing such a thing at all creates a chilling effect, and I think that's dangerous.
Bit of a flippant response to all the polite restock requests. It is completely fine to deny the request, but doing so with a little humility and professionalism would go a long way.
is bf2019 - 25gb/10€/y still competitive?
That wasn't a response to restock requests, it was slightly deeper LET drama.
One of the best deals on LET in a while.
To anyone here worried that MXRoute might not post offers on LET, please remember MXRoute has resellers too. Sometimes you might grab an awesome e-mail hosting deal of MXRoute's resellers posted in megathreads.
All the arguments will pass, and maybe later no one will remember why this promotion happened. But the result of it will probably stay with me for a long time. I signed up for a $5 per year promotion plan with 10 GB storage and unlimited domains. And I’m sure I will renew this promo every year
I mean I have BF 2023 $10/yr 25 GB. 25/10 = 2.5 GB/$, which is a better deal than 10/5 (2 GB/$).
When I do USD to EUR conversion, your plan is roughly 2.12 GB/$, so still competitive.
Sorry but I can't let this package go...
Providing those resellers don't get themselves banned because of abuse as well.
I honestly can't help but stare at this entire situation...
Congratulations on a nice deal
Nice project you have there brother!
From what he's said on TrustPilot, resellers will get banned if even a single instance of spam occurs. Although it's also possible that he's changed his mind since then.
Crazy good deal. I have a $30/3 yr medium plan from BF 2023
I suspect it's that kind of outright lie that made him conclude there's no value to being here.
Perhaps you should read it then. Thanks.
I also couldn't find the review where he said this about resellers.
I remember him saying here on LET that he does not hesitate to terminate a reseller's account if they do not make sure that their customers don't spam (in order to protect his IP reputation I guess), but I think he at least warns them before. It's been a while and he's an avid poster, I'm not going to be able to back this with a link to the comment.
Yep, looking through it again, it was just someone who had a business account and had a single employee send spam (after 6 years of no issues), so the whole business got terminated. I guess that doesn't count as a reseller.
https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/686c54d7b0868cf7d505f47a
Though he's openly trigger happy with resellers so the risk of going with a reseller is real.
hell!
it is 40% cheaper then my bf2019 deal.
Do you believe everything you see on the Internet at completely face value?
Do you also believe that jar has to accept business from everyone?
I honestly thought you were naive, but now I think you're just acting in bad faith intentionally across the VeloxMedia thread and these two threads. You were defending and on copium "Eric" wouldn't shut services down but he was always going to. You just refused to let it go and kept going. Now you're here hyper focused on this Trust Pilot review that I honestly think doesn't have much weight considering the huge dataset of real experiences in this very forum. A one star review(the one that linked) is a real life lesson. I don't have any sympathy because the customer hired a rogue staff member and sent spam.
I do not believe you'll engage in good faith as I call you out on this. As you were told by many people exactly what was going to happen and it did happen and you didn't accept the reality until it happened.
For full transparency. I am a MXRoute customer but due to delays, real life and work I never transitioned my mail from Porkbun to MXRoute so I have no experience except for one ticket about oauth on round cube and got told no reasonably. I just have an idling BF deal.
Now as for the GDPR issues... I'm not a lawyer. I not claim to be one and I haven't. I know it was spoken and I did mention some stuff around this in the VeloxMedia but I also threw that disclaimer that both me and my sister weren't lawyers. Wherever it applies to Jar and MXRoute needs to be asked by a lawyer who can specialize in that. I don't think a low end lawyer is going to be someone a user on this forum can trust.
Now I will continue to stare and be silent as you attempt to rebuke.
Please read my subsequent post. Note that jar did not contest that fact in his reply in TrustPilot. So unless the customer is lying and jar decided to agree with the lie, then I think I can say that the following facts are true:
Neither the customer nor jar disagreed on those facts. They only disagreed on whether or not the response was proportionate, whether or not the customer should have known an employee went rogue, etc. And I take no side in that respect because I do not have all the information.
Of course not. The primary issue I have, which I have stated repeatedly, was that his responses have been consistently aggressive and rude, even when he is right. That is unprofessional behavior.
Nope, that was just me trying to appear on the fence so that he would be more likely to keep my service up. I didn't want to defend him, but I also didn't want to criticize him too harshly while he reads the thread. I thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess not. And guess what? My VPS is still up. So what reality happened that I did not accept?
I have no opinion on the GDPR. I was not the one who brought that up.
It seems you are largely arguing against points which I do not disagree with, as if I'm an Eric stan or a Jar hater, neither of which is true. I cannot rebuke your statements because they are not statements that apply to me.
just saw the post no longer avaliable?