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[SCAM WARNING] Acck.io - Service TERMINATED instantly for a review! + Fake 1Gbps Speeds & ToS Lies

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  • @shangyuan0818 said:

    @Rubben said:
    Acck is not a scam stop being retarded

    "ToS could be updated everywhere". Man! what can I say

    Acctually ur a lier,I checked the whole post and followed nodeseek the truth is-
    The provider has clearly stated that leaking the IP address will result in account deletion. However, you claimed that there is no such rule, which proves that you are lying.
    At the same time, I have checked other users’ speed test results, and they were able to reach 1G/s. Your own screenshot also proves that 1G/s is achievable.
    Since the bandwidth is shared, it requires competition among users, and it is impossible to maintain full speed at all times.
    Ur spreading false information and making things up is unacceptable. This community does not welcome such behavior.

  • forestforest Member
    edited February 25

    @jar said: Stop being a drama queen.

    @jar said: Now please get off the cross, we need the wood.

    @jar said: Ridiculous. Do better. Starting to remember why I don't log in here as much. I appreciate the reminder.

    'nuff said.

    It's telling that the entire response to criticism is in a combative tone while completely skipping the actual criticism (that a bad review would factor into a termination decision at all). This is LET. People are going to point out a business' bad practice.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • Review bans -- If it were only for abusive language in support tickets, I don't think anyone would blame you @jar. The problem is when a review factors in, even a little bit. Having that be even a partial justification is a problem because it signals to others that your customers can't speak freely about their opinions of your service without risking a ban. That casts doubt on whether your product is good, or people are just afraid to say it is bad. That is why providers do not do review bans.

    Retaliatory reviews -- You don't have to be silent, you can certainly defend yourself! But the venue for that is in the vendor response section. It is NOT in retaliatory reviews for businesses you're not a customer of. That's not what Trustpilot is. It's literally in the website title: "Experience the power of customer reviews" In the transaction, you are not a customer, you are a vendor. Unless you bought hypnotherapy from that lady (and all the other customers you left retaliatory reviews of), you shouldn't have left a review of her.

    Privacy violations -- Generally for financial transactions (of less than $10k), you can anonymize the customer data and keep the country + amount and satisfy concerns of both parties. Beyond that, there are legal mechanisms that can be used to force this if someone is determined enough. (I don't expect you to believe me as a random internet commenter, but ask your legal counsel and they will tell you why US companies comply with interstate & international privacy regulations. If the big companies thought they could get out of it, they would.) Anti-privacy, especially from an e-mail host, also just seems a really weird battle to fight.

    Speaking constructively, these are issues that are concerning to people and you should try to work on.

    Thanked by 2forest Ssre
  • forestforest Member
    edited February 25

    @WyvernCo said: In the transaction, you are not a customer, you are a vendor. Unless you bought hypnotherapy from that lady (and all the other customers you left retaliatory reviews of), you shouldn't have left a review of her.

    I didn't even notice he'd been leaving retaliatory reviews. That's just scummy.

    From one of his retaliatory reviews where he's... reviewing a customer:

    Operation Love isn't very loving. As a small business vendor they approached me out of their own free will and signed up for my service. They then confused me with another vendor and accused me of providing slow service.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo Ssre
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    While this deploy is running... perhaps I was unclear to the both of you. If you disagree with my terminating a user for writing a bad review after I put up with him endlessly and unjustifiably berating me in support tickets:

    I am genuinely disregarding your opinion and choosing to electively inform you of that. I am not going to be your drama tonight. The circle jerk is going to have an empty chair, sorry.

  • forestforest Member
    edited February 25

    @jar said: I am genuinely disregarding your opinion and choosing to electively inform you of that. I am not going to be your drama tonight. The circle jerk is going to have an empty chair, sorry.

    I'm sorry, but calling legitimate criticism of bad business practices a "circle jerk" shows an inability to accept criticism.

    Factoring in the number of stars someone gives you in any way to your termination decisions is problematic, period.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited February 25

    @Fubukibox said:

    @rpqu said:

    @nghialele said:
    People nowadays talking like robot, with The Excuse:, The Reality, and The Conclusion xD

    Are you also run commands OP? Can I send your terminal a command?

    Attention span has been shrinking ever since. It's preemptive TLDR.
    Anyway, @shangyuan0818 should have mantain objective truth (实事求是), instead of making rash conclusion (草率定性). This harm acck.io's reputation (伤害企业声誉) and may cause loss to their normal business operations (伤及企业正常经营).
    Please preserve social harmony (和谐社会)

    I checked OP iperf3 IP and it shows the IP belongs to AS906 DMIT Cloud Services in Shinagawa (Higashishinagawa), Tokyo, Japan. I suspect acck.io is just reselling DMIT vps

    Huh? the local port is 143.14.106.109 (AS216211) not 154.31.113.6 (AS906)
    https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=ripe&key=143.14.104.0 - 143.14.107.255&type=inetnum
    https://search.arin.net/rdap/?query=154.31.113.6

    Note:
    I did triple-check just to confirm that my eyes doesn't deceive me.

  • ralfralf Member

    @yoshiki said:

    @jar said:
    I mean I've terminated for a review before

    Why would you admit to this?

    Well, he didn't admit to what you selectively quoted. He actually said:

    I mean I've terminated for a review before (not JUST a review, but it was the final straw).

    It sounds like the customer should have been terminated even before the review but @jar was giving him the benefit of the doubt, and the review just made him realise what he should have already done. Of course, terminating him before the review would have still produced a negative review outcome, so there's not really any difference.

    And to be honest, if a customer is so upset with your service that they give a terrible review, why wouldn't you make it right to them by ending the relationship and giving them a refund. Surely that's the best outcome for both sides.

  • forestforest Member
    edited February 25

    @ralf said: And to be honest, if a customer is so upset with your service that they give a terrible review, why wouldn't you make it right to them by ending the relationship and giving them a refund.

    Because a contract cannot be unilaterally changed by one side. Just look at the recent DediRock drama.

    Now, offering a refund would be fine.

    If the customer was acting so badly that they should be terminated, then it should be done whether they give a 1 star review or a 5 star review. Anything else is retaliation (and "it's not JUST retaliation" doesn't make it any better).

  • ralfralf Member

    @forest said:

    @ralf said: And to be honest, if a customer is so upset with your service that they give a terrible review, why wouldn't you make it right to them by ending the relationship and giving them a refund.

    Because a contract cannot be unilaterally changed by one side. Just look at the recent DediRock drama.

    If the customer was acting so badly that they should be terminated, then it should be done whether they give a 1 star review or a 5 star review. Whether a customer appreciates a service and decides to discuss their appreciation (or lack thereof) has no bearing on a legal contract, and it should not be factored into the decision at all.

    And again, the other part of what I wrote:

    It sounds like the customer should have been terminated even before the review but @jar was giving him the benefit of the doubt, and the review just made him realise what he should have already done.

    Yes, the review itself shouldn't be a reason to terminate, but if a customer has already caused problems, maybe violated ToS, whatever, but given him more than enough reason to be canceled already, then whether the review was the extra tipping point or not is irrelevant - neither side was happy.

    If the customer was so desperate to keep the service and not have a refund, they shouldn't be giving it a 1-star review. If they actually valued the service so much that they wanted to keep it, it was clearly better than a 1-star service.

  • @ralf said: If the customer was so desperate to keep the service and not have a refund, they shouldn't be giving it a 1-star review.

    Was a refund involved, though? A shitty service is better than no service if refunds are off the table.

  • Dinos Against Scammers is monitoring this situation

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  • xaocxaoc Member

    @jar said:

    we need the wood.

    😳😏

    Thanked by 2forest oloke
  • SsreSsre Member

    @jar said:
    While this deploy is running... perhaps I was unclear to the both of you. If you disagree with my terminating a user for writing a bad review after I put up with him endlessly and unjustifiably berating me in support tickets:

    Terminating a user mid-contract for being rude in tickets = perfectly fine
    Terminating a user mid-contract for leaving a bad review = not ok
    Leaving retaliatory Trustpilot reviews when you're not a customer = not ok

    @jar said:
    Not a fake review. I did business with him, I am allowed to review people I do business with. I will never buy the "You own a business so you have to keep your mouth shut while everyone else gets to berate you in public" philosophy. Don't like it? That's your right, I'm not going to change because you don't.

    That's what the response feature is for. Leaving retaliatory reviews for a business that you're not a customer of could be considered malicious misuse of Trustpilot.

    Imagine you bought something from Ebay. You were unhappy with the seller/item and returned it. The Ebay seller then tracks down your business and leaves a negative review on your Trustpilot page saying you're an idiot and don't understand how to use the item. Do you think that'd be acceptable behavior?

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo forest
  • @forest said:

    @ralf said: And to be honest, if a customer is so upset with your service that they give a terrible review, why wouldn't you make it right to them by ending the relationship and giving them a refund.

    Because a contract cannot be unilaterally changed by one side.

    But terminating someone isn't changing the contract, in many cases it follows the contract.
    As for MXroute, their policy literally says that they have the right to terminate anyone, anytime, for any reason, just like basically any and all businesses out there. So if MXroute decides to terminate someone they are not changing the contract, they are following it to the letter.

    Also, most policies and terms actually include a paragraph that allows them to be updated at any time so yes, a contract can be, and often is, changed unilaterally. Google 'unilateral variation clause' for more information.

    Thanked by 2MichaelCee ralf
  • @rpqu said:

    @Fubukibox said:

    @rpqu said:

    @nghialele said:
    People nowadays talking like robot, with The Excuse:, The Reality, and The Conclusion xD

    Are you also run commands OP? Can I send your terminal a command?

    Attention span has been shrinking ever since. It's preemptive TLDR.
    Anyway, @shangyuan0818 should have mantain objective truth (实事求是), instead of making rash conclusion (草率定性). This harm acck.io's reputation (伤害企业声誉) and may cause loss to their normal business operations (伤及企业正常经营).
    Please preserve social harmony (和谐社会)

    I checked OP iperf3 IP and it shows the IP belongs to AS906 DMIT Cloud Services in Shinagawa (Higashishinagawa), Tokyo, Japan. I suspect acck.io is just reselling DMIT vps

    Huh? the local port is 143.14.106.109 (AS216211) not 154.31.113.6 (AS906)
    https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/lookup?source=ripe&key=143.14.104.0 - 143.14.107.255&type=inetnum
    https://search.arin.net/rdap/?query=154.31.113.6

    Note:
    I did triple-check just to confirm that my eyes doesn't deceive me.

    I checked 154.31.113.6 only based on the iperf3 speed test. Not the other

  • forestforest Member
    edited February 26

    @rcy026 said: As for MXroute, their policy literally says that they have the right to terminate anyone, anytime, for any reason

    Indeed. And that is why people are calling him out on bad business practices, not on fraud. It may be legal for one to factor in a person's bad review to terminate their service, but it's certainly not professional.

    Anyhow, my response was to what ralf said, which is a somewhat different situation involving refunds:

    why wouldn't you make it right to them by ending the relationship and giving them a refund.

  • adlyadly Veteran

    @WyvernCo said:

    @jar said: I mean I've terminated for a review before

    Yikes. I've bought from providers who had bad reviews before, but hearing a provider admit to banning for them? That's a legitimately awful, oppressive business tactic and I'm adding MXRoute to my list of do-not-purchase-ever providers.

    If you're so unhappy as to go through the effort of leaving a bad public review, why'd you want to remain with the provider? Not to mention, at the end of the day, many businesses on LET are small (not that it is a required factor) - why shouldn't they also exercise their right to choose who they deal with?

    Thanked by 1MichaelCee
  • forestforest Member
    edited February 26

    @adly said: If you're so unhappy as to go through the effort of leaving a bad public review, why'd you want to remain with the provider?

    Because it was a service paid for. Now, if it was only a $7/year service, I could see it being worth just calling it a loss.

    While it may be legal, retaliatory reviews and bans for giving bad reviews is highly taboo here (and in general).

    Thanked by 1Ssre
  • @forest said: While it may be legal, retaliatory reviews and bans for giving bad reviews is highly taboo here (and in general).

    It feels like there's more uproar about this than the hundreds of scams that were facilitated on and allegedly by this forum over the years. Although, based on your join date, unless you're a prior lurker you may be blissfully unaware. Anyway..

  • @MichaelCee said: It feels like there's more uproar about this than the hundreds of scams that were facilitated on and allegedly by this forum over the years. Although, based on your join date, unless you're a prior lurker you may be blissfully unaware. Anyway..

    I've lurked for several years here as well as on OGF when it started up.

    If you think two pages of criticism is a real uproar, you must have missed out on some real multi-hundred page gems. :joy:

  • MichaelCeeMichaelCee Member
    edited February 26

    @forest said: If you think two pages of criticism is a real uproar, you must have missed out on some real multi-hundred page gems.

    Two pages is nothing, but I guess that's my point. It feels like we sort of wooshed over all the really bad stuff that happened years back, but I also did drop off the face of the earth LET for 3 years :sweat_smile:

  • @MichaelCee said:

    @forest said: If you think two pages of criticism is a real uproar, you must have missed out on some real multi-hundred page gems.

    Two pages is nothing, but I guess that's my point. It feels like we sort of wooshed over all the really bad stuff that happened years back, but I also did drop off the face of the earth for 3 years :sweat_smile:

    Oh for sure, but there's no reason for us to bring up bigger drama just to pad this mini-drama. After all, CharityHost's shenanigans neither lessens nor worsens others' bad behavior.

    A lot has happened in the last 3 years, btw!

    Thanked by 1MichaelCee
  • @forest said: Oh for sure, but there's no reason for us to bring up bigger drama just to pad this mini-drama.

    Lack of sleep.. don't even know what thread I'm in.

    Anyway, time for bed :smiley:

    Thanked by 1forest
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