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Are there any raspberry pi hosters?

i am searching for maximum 10 dollar per year a raspberry pi vps/host.
Is that possible? Or shall I emulate the pi using qemu on my 1 cpu dedirock vps? I think the performance will give me a headache

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited February 2

    Just buy a Raspberry Pi and host it at home. You just leave it running at home in some metal box in the corner of your house.

  • Not possible for 10 dollar per year, all known hosters which offer raspi hosting are way more expensive.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Cheapest we had, was a PI Zero for 2.50$/m on a congested wifi.
    10$/y isn't going to happen for dedicated hardware.

  • @default said:
    Just buy a Raspberry Pi and host it at home. You just leave it running at home in some metal box in the corner of your house.

    thats 70 dollar and using my home bandwidth

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    Maybe soon RPiServers might come back...

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • @JoshR said:
    Maybe soon RPiServers might come back...

    Thanked by 1JoshR
  • DrNutellaDrNutella Member
    edited February 3

    I had $7/yr deel.

    0.15% uptime guaranteed 5% of the time, on only 1 day a year when your internet goes down.

  • NovaCloudHostingNovaCloudHosting Member, Patron Provider

    @dbadude said: thats 70 dollar and using my home bandwidth

    I guess now you can see why 10$/Year is not possible for a Pi.

  • @NovaCloudHosting said:

    @dbadude said: thats 70 dollar and using my home bandwidth

    I guess now you can see why 10$/Year is not possible for a Pi.

    Unless the pi is a shared server. Like all vps servers.

  • NovaCloudHostingNovaCloudHosting Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 3

    @dbadude said:

    @NovaCloudHosting said:

    @dbadude said: thats 70 dollar and using my home bandwidth

    I guess now you can see why 10$/Year is not possible for a Pi.

    Unless the pi is a shared server. Like all vps servers.

    Ah yes, Raspberry Pi VPS hosting. Let's see if there is a hosting provider offering something like this. Would be an interesting product.

  • a quick vibe gemini chat gave me this;

    is it possible to do virtualisation on the raspberry pi?

    Yes, it is absolutely possible to do virtualization on a Raspberry Pi, particularly on the Raspberry Pi 4 and Raspberry Pi 5. These models feature ARM hardware virtualization extensions (KVM), making them capable of running full Virtual Machines (VMs) and containers.

    sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
    sudo usermod -aG libvirt $USER

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

  • NovaCloudHostingNovaCloudHosting Member, Patron Provider

    @dbadude said:
    a quick vibe gemini chat gave me this;

    is it possible to do virtualisation on the raspberry pi?

    Yes, it is absolutely possible to do virtualization on a Raspberry Pi, particularly on the Raspberry Pi 4 and Raspberry Pi 5. These models feature ARM hardware virtualization extensions (KVM), making them capable of running full Virtual Machines (VMs) and containers.

    sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
    sudo usermod -aG libvirt $USER

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    Yes sure, I've already tried virtualization on a Pi 4. 4GB last year which did in fact work.

    The maiin problem here is that hosting providers are usually rather interested in large hostsystems, since you can have more customers on a single hostsystem and have less work for management and monitoring of the system.

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @dbadude said:
    a quick vibe gemini chat gave me this;

    is it possible to do virtualisation on the raspberry pi?

    Yes, it is absolutely possible to do virtualization on a Raspberry Pi, particularly on the Raspberry Pi 4 and Raspberry Pi 5. These models feature ARM hardware virtualization extensions (KVM), making them capable of running full Virtual Machines (VMs) and containers.

    sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
    sudo usermod -aG libvirt $USER

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    lmao ok

  • @NovaCloudHosting said:

    @dbadude said:
    a quick vibe gemini chat gave me this;

    is it possible to do virtualisation on the raspberry pi?

    Yes, it is absolutely possible to do virtualization on a Raspberry Pi, particularly on the Raspberry Pi 4 and Raspberry Pi 5. These models feature ARM hardware virtualization extensions (KVM), making them capable of running full Virtual Machines (VMs) and containers.

    sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
    sudo usermod -aG libvirt $USER

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    Yes sure, I've already tried virtualization on a Pi 4. 4GB last year which did in fact work.

    The maiin problem here is that hosting providers are usually rather interested in large hostsystems, since you can have more customers on a single hostsystem and have less work for management and monitoring of the system.

    Yes for sure there is an scaling issue with these mickeymouse machines. But thats exactly the same what IBM said when google started and stacking up their datacenters with commodity hardware. It missing features like RAID, redundant powersupply, failover networking, etc.... This is totally not necessary when commodity computing uptime is already sufficient.

  • emaiIemaiI Member

    Virtualization defeats the point of a Raspberry Pi. The hardware isn't even the cheapest for its performance class, you're paying for the specialty features mainly.
    If what you're suggesting was really a super cheap solution, we'd have them all over the market already, don't you think?
    Remember, buying hosting you're not paying for just hardware, in fact hardware's just a small part of the price.

    @dbadude said:

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    That might work for summer hosts with very little budget and no will to grow.

    @dbadude said:
    It missing features like RAID, redundant powersupply, failover networking, etc.... This is totally not necessary when commodity computing uptime is already sufficient.

    This is actually how some providers already operate.

  • @emaiI said:
    Virtualization defeats the point of a Raspberry Pi. The hardware isn't even the cheapest for its performance class, you're paying for the specialty features mainly.
    If what you're suggesting was really a super cheap solution, we'd have them all over the market already, don't you think?
    Remember, buying hosting you're not paying for just hardware, in fact hardware's just a small part of the price.

    @dbadude said:

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    That might work for summer hosts with very little budget and no will to grow.

    @dbadude said:
    It missing features like RAID, redundant powersupply, failover networking, etc.... This is totally not necessary when commodity computing uptime is already sufficient.

    This is actually how some providers already operate.

    I thought Arm hardware was the most economical from a performance per watt perspective.

  • Storage lifespan on Pis running microSD cards would be a concern, and introducing external storage would make it economically challenging

  • NovaCloudHostingNovaCloudHosting Member, Patron Provider

    @dbadude said:

    @emaiI said:
    Virtualization defeats the point of a Raspberry Pi. The hardware isn't even the cheapest for its performance class, you're paying for the specialty features mainly.
    If what you're suggesting was really a super cheap solution, we'd have them all over the market already, don't you think?
    Remember, buying hosting you're not paying for just hardware, in fact hardware's just a small part of the price.

    @dbadude said:

    and BOOM! you have a RPI vps server. Put 20 let vps-es little bit overprovisioning on it and you are rich quick like dadyrock. a 70 dollar investment turns into a 70 dollar profit within a year. 20 (#clients) x $ 7(dollar/year) =$140 - $70(investment) = $70 profit in a year. Better than all AI startups!

    That might work for summer hosts with very little budget and no will to grow.

    @dbadude said:
    It missing features like RAID, redundant powersupply, failover networking, etc.... This is totally not necessary when commodity computing uptime is already sufficient.

    This is actually how some providers already operate.

    I thought Arm hardware was the most economical from a performance per watt perspective.

    • Rackspace
    • Traffic
    • Network equipment
    • IPs
    • Technician/Support time
    • Replacement of defective hardware
    • Power
    • Probably some other costs I forgot to mention

    it all adds up. If it were super profitable, every hosting provider would sell Raspberry Pi VPS. The fact that most providers don't offer this kind of VPS proves our point.

    Thanked by 1beanman109
  • Ok thanks then.

  • @thepasta said:
    Storage lifespan on Pis running microSD cards would be a concern, and introducing external storage would make it economically challenging

    Yeah but that would be stupid to run 20 vps-es from a consumer ssd card. Its for sure possible to run from professional storage.

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