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looking for vps in Russia, no Kyc, crypto, 4tb+, low price

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  • zGatozGato Member
    edited January 21

    @SashkaPro said:

    @Marx07 said: https://ml.cloud/en is not bad and bulletproof

    @zGato you still have ML25 in Moscow?
    If yes can you please re-run yabs?

    I saw your YABS earlier and there was "100 mbps" (as advertised in thread) but nowadays on ml.cloud I see that even ML25 (lowest) package should have 1Gbit...

    my bad, missed your comment.

    here's the YABS:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Jan 22 02:12:53 AM MSK 2026
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 6 days, 20 hours, 3 minutes
    Processor  : Intel Core Processor (Broadwell)
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2394.454 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 960.7 MiB
    Swap       : 975.0 MiB
    Disk       : 22.9 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-42-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Media Land LLC
    ASN        : AS206728 Media Land LLC
    Host       : Media Land LLC
    Location   : Moscow, Moscow (MOW)
    Country    : Russia
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 217.66 MB/s  (54.4k) | 1.39 GB/s    (21.8k)
    Write      | 218.24 MB/s  (54.5k) | 1.40 GB/s    (21.9k)
    Total      | 435.90 MB/s (108.9k) | 2.80 GB/s    (43.8k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.61 GB/s     (3.1k) | 1.65 GB/s     (1.6k)
    Write      | 1.70 GB/s     (3.3k) | 1.76 GB/s     (1.7k)
    Total      | 3.32 GB/s     (6.4k) | 3.42 GB/s     (3.3k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 954 Mbits/sec   | 49.3 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | busy            | busy            | --
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.09 Gbits/sec  | 951 Mbits/sec   | 49.0 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | busy            | --
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | busy            | busy            | --
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 967 Mbits/sec   | 848 Mbits/sec   | 115 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 772 Mbits/sec   | 220 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 944 Mbits/sec   | 49.4 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.09 Gbits/sec  | 938 Mbits/sec   | --
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | busy            | busy            | 48.9 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 706 Mbits/sec   | 746 Mbits/sec   | --
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 541 Mbits/sec   | 315 Mbits/sec   | --
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 967 Mbits/sec   | 794 Mbits/sec   | 115 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 712 Mbits/sec   | 147 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 698
    Multi Core      | 701
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/24053905
    
    Geekbench test failed and low memory was detected. Add at least 1GB of SWAP or use GB4 instead (higher compatibility with low memory systems).
    
    YABS completed in 28 min 6 sec
    
    Thanked by 1SashkaPro
  • @forest said:

    Oh damn. I wonder if I can get them to move me to another location or refund me. Quite a few Tor relays operate on their AS and I just happened to be foolish enough to get a Russian location from them, emboldened by how uncensored my Novosibirsk relay is (from JustHost, not from 4vps).

    It is definitely a risk going RU considering the current status.

  • @zGato said: my bad, missed your comment.

    Mine ML25 with 300 cap
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4718565/#Comment_4718565
    i dont know why

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @rpqueue said: wget -qO- censorcheck.tlab.pw

    Nice script, thanks for this.

    I just checked on my MLCloud SPB, and it is already not reachable from many networks.

    --- Network Censorship Checker by Nikola Tesla ---
    
    Domain                Status    Block Type
    --------------------------------------------------
    youtube.com           BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    instagram.com         BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    facebook.com          BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    x.com                 BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    patreon.com           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    linkedin.com          BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    signal.org            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    tiktok.com            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    web.telegram.org      OK ✓TLS
    web.whatsapp.com      BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    discord.com           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    viber.com             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    chatgpt.com           PARTIAL (HTTP-RESPONSE/DPI) ✗TLS
    grok.com              BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    reddit.com            OK ✓TLS
    twitch.tv             OK ✓TLS
    netflix.com           BLOCKED (REGIONAL) ✓TLS
    rutracker.org         BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    nnmclub.to            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    digitalocean.com      BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    api.cloudflare.com    BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    aws.amazon.com        BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    ntc.party             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    amnezia.org           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    torproject.org        BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    --------------------------------------------------
    Test completed in 7 minutes.
    

    My FirstByte MSK one seems mostly fine, I can also get Youtube ad free.

    --- Network Censorship Checker by Nikola Tesla ---
    
    Domain                Status    Block Type
    --------------------------------------------------
    youtube.com           OK ✓TLS
    instagram.com         OK ✓TLS
    facebook.com          OK ✓TLS
    x.com                 OK ✓TLS
    patreon.com           OK ✓TLS
    linkedin.com          OK ✓TLS
    signal.org            OK ✓TLS
    tiktok.com            OK ✓TLS
    web.telegram.org      OK ✓TLS
    web.whatsapp.com      PARTIAL (DPI/KEYWORD) ✓TLS
    discord.com           OK ✓TLS
    viber.com             OK ✓TLS
    chatgpt.com           BLOCKED (REGIONAL) ✓TLS
    grok.com              PARTIAL (HTTP-RESPONSE/DPI) ✓TLS
    reddit.com            OK ✓TLS
    twitch.tv             OK ✓TLS
    netflix.com           OK ✓TLS
    rutracker.org         OK ✓TLS
    nnmclub.to            OK ✓TLS
    digitalocean.com      OK ✓TLS
    api.cloudflare.com    OK ✓TLS
    aws.amazon.com        OK ✓TLS
    ntc.party             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    amnezia.org           OK ✓TLS
    torproject.org        OK ✓TLS
    --------------------------------------------------
    Test completed in 2 minutes.
    
    Thanked by 2rpqueue oloke
  • @sh97 said:

    @rpqueue said: wget -qO- censorcheck.tlab.pw

    Nice script, thanks for this.

    I just checked on my MLCloud SPB, and it is already not reachable from many networks.

    --- Network Censorship Checker by Nikola Tesla ---
    
    Domain                Status    Block Type
    --------------------------------------------------
    youtube.com           BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    instagram.com         BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    facebook.com          BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    x.com                 BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    patreon.com           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    linkedin.com          BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    signal.org            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    tiktok.com            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    web.telegram.org      OK ✓TLS
    web.whatsapp.com      BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    discord.com           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    viber.com             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    chatgpt.com           PARTIAL (HTTP-RESPONSE/DPI) ✗TLS
    grok.com              BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    reddit.com            OK ✓TLS
    twitch.tv             OK ✓TLS
    netflix.com           BLOCKED (REGIONAL) ✓TLS
    rutracker.org         BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    nnmclub.to            BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    digitalocean.com      BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    api.cloudflare.com    BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    aws.amazon.com        BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    ntc.party             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    amnezia.org           BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    torproject.org        BLOCKED (HTTP(S)/DPI) ✗TLS
    --------------------------------------------------
    Test completed in 7 minutes.
    

    My FirstByte MSK one seems mostly fine, I can also get Youtube ad free.

    --- Network Censorship Checker by Nikola Tesla ---
    
    Domain                Status    Block Type
    --------------------------------------------------
    youtube.com           OK ✓TLS
    instagram.com         OK ✓TLS
    facebook.com          OK ✓TLS
    x.com                 OK ✓TLS
    patreon.com           OK ✓TLS
    linkedin.com          OK ✓TLS
    signal.org            OK ✓TLS
    tiktok.com            OK ✓TLS
    web.telegram.org      OK ✓TLS
    web.whatsapp.com      PARTIAL (DPI/KEYWORD) ✓TLS
    discord.com           OK ✓TLS
    viber.com             OK ✓TLS
    chatgpt.com           BLOCKED (REGIONAL) ✓TLS
    grok.com              PARTIAL (HTTP-RESPONSE/DPI) ✓TLS
    reddit.com            OK ✓TLS
    twitch.tv             OK ✓TLS
    netflix.com           OK ✓TLS
    rutracker.org         OK ✓TLS
    nnmclub.to            OK ✓TLS
    digitalocean.com      OK ✓TLS
    api.cloudflare.com    OK ✓TLS
    aws.amazon.com        OK ✓TLS
    ntc.party             BLOCKED (IP/TCP)
    amnezia.org           OK ✓TLS
    torproject.org        OK ✓TLS
    --------------------------------------------------
    Test completed in 2 minutes.
    

    may be our SME @ValdikSS knows some more

  • ValdikSSValdikSS Member
    edited January 25

    @rpqueue said: may be our SME @ValdikSS knows some more

    I usually manually test blocked websites.

    In Russia, there are two types of blocks, more or less:

    • The official Registry of Blocked Websites (it's available only to the ISPs, but there are several mirrors, now outdated unfortunately, like this), which are performed by the ISP themselves
    • Off-registry blocks, which are performed on the government TSPU hardware (some examples here)

    I usually test on the following websites.

    Registry-blocked:

    • rutracker.org
    • meduza.io
    • linkedin.com
    • facebook.com
    • windscribe.com

    Off-registry:

    • play.google.com
    • adguard.com
    • tor.eff.org
    • bbc.co.uk
    • *.ua

    You need to test multiple times (and all the IPs available on the domain), because it's common for the datacenter to have only some of the upstreams to have TSPUs, but not other, that's why you'll get inconsistent results. Sometimes upstream selection is based on the destination address, sometimes on the hash of the address/port (src and dst). Also common to peer with the major sites directly (Cloudflare), in this case data won't be flowing through TSPU hardware.

    If play.google.com is blocked, that's definitely means TSPU is in place. TSPU does not just block the websites, it also blocks VPN protocols based on the fingerprints, and also has different triggers. For example, sending any UDP payload to some of OVH and Scaleway ranges will result in blocking OVH, Scaleway, DigitalOcean, Vultr and other hosting providers for 10 minutes exactly.

    The filtering could be implemented as a throttling down to very low speed, or as a packet drop after predefined amount of data transferred (commonly 16 KB or 30-32 KB). That's why testing with just cURL to some small compressed HTML page won't necessary reveal the filtering.
    This also applies to non-web protocols, such as SSH.

  • As of today, I don't know any hosting sites in Russia which are 100% free of censorship. At one point the traffic would get filtered, even the low amount of it, because major Russian transit providers also have filtering.

    Even outside of Russia, on Hetzner Finland, some of the data is transferred via Rascom and Rostelecom, which have transit censorship.

    Thanked by 1rpqueue
  • ValdikSSValdikSS Member
    edited January 25

    @forest said: Maybe JustHost

    Avoid, that's incompetence multiplied by bad service.

    Spoiler

    Yesterday I bough a new server from them, which come with outgoing IPv4 connectivity banned. The support told me that the service has been restricted due to previous abuse, despite me buying the server 20 minutes earlier and all I did is just run apt upgrade.

    6 hours later, the speed won't get higher than 6 mbit/s, with average of 1-4 mbit/s. Support told me multiple times that such speeds are fine and expected for my 300 mbps "fair share" plan.

    I have CZ server with them for about half a year, and their "abuse" handling is total disaster. They believe that everything which comes to their email with the IP address mentioned is the abuse, for which the server have to be disabled, even if it's just a good faith notification email.
    And of course I have to double-ping them to unlock IPv4 network every time, because the first time they "unlock" it after the "abuse" message it still doesn't work.

    There's a CEO email listed, where you can write a feedback and solve uncommon issues, as they say. I wrote there twice, got no reply.

    Thanked by 2jsg oloke
  • forestforest Member
    edited January 25

    @ValdikSS said:

    @forest said: Maybe JustHost

    Avoid, that's incompetence multiplied by bad service.

    Spoiler

    Yesterday I bough a new server from them, which come with outgoing IPv4 connectivity banned. The support told me that the service has been restricted due to previous abuse, despite me buying the server 20 minutes earlier and all I did is just run apt upgrade.

    6 hours later, the speed won't get higher than 6 mbit/s, with average of 1-4 mbit/s. Support told me multiple times that such speeds are fine and expected for my 300 mbps "fair share" plan.

    I have CZ server with them for about half a year, and their "abuse" handling is total disaster. They believe that everything which comes to their email with the IP address mentioned is the abuse, for which the server have to be disabled, even if it's just a good faith notification email.
    And of course I have to double-ping them to unlock IPv4 network every time, because the first time they "unlock" it after the "abuse" message it still doesn't work.

    There's a CEO email listed, where you can write a feedback and solve uncommon issues, as they say. I wrote there twice, got no reply.

    That's odd. I have three services with them (Russia, Brazil, and Spain) and they're working just fine. Peering isn't the best, but performance has been as expected. I've never had them suspend any services.

    What do you mean by good faith notification email?

  • @forest said: What do you mean by good faith notification email?

    CZ PSIRT sent the email with the information that they (PSIRT) receive requests to the Android TV box botnet domains, which they hijacked and deactivated and now control, from my VPS IP address.

    This is the only email which had meaningful and actionable information, but the only one which did not ask for any action, and explicitly mentioned that that's just a notification.

    All the other "abuse complaints" Justhost sent to me are in the following form, quote of the whole information provided:

             2025-11-27 13:18.Categories: Web App Attack.
    Comment: scanning http requests from known botnet
            2025-11-20 18:13.Categories: Exploited Host, Web App Attack.
    Comment: Looking for CMS/PHP/SQL vulnerablilities/excessive crawling - 28
            2025-11-11 21:38.Categories: Open Proxy, VPN IP.
    Comment: Requests denied due to proxy/VPN risk (tenant=82 method=GET path=/brands.html ua='Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/83.0.4103.106 Safari/537.36')
    

    No destination IP address, not hostnames, no ports, absolutely nothing to be able to take any action. They does not disclose how they receive this information (incoming abuse emails or some kind of automated system, I suppose the latter), and there's even stuff like Requests denied due to proxy/VPN risk - what kind of abuse is that?!

    Thanked by 2tentor oloke
  • forestforest Member
    edited January 25

    @ValdikSS said: CZ PSIRT sent the email with the information that they (PSIRT) receive requests to the Android TV box botnet domains, which they hijacked and deactivated and now control, from my VPS IP address.

    I had to shut down my Tor exit relay that I used to run on Servers Guru for the same exact reason: It happened to connect to a sinkhole IP. There was no malicious traffic, but the mere connection to the sinkhole IP was enough to trigger an automated abuse complaint.

    I also had an OrangeVPS service temporary suspended because, and I kid you not, they got their entire /24 on two blacklists and I happened to be within that /24, so they got an alert that my service was suddenly appearing on a blacklist and concluded that I must have been "email spamming" (I don't think they even allow port 25!). I had to go through the whole "how are you going to secure your server so it doesn't get hacked again?" bullshit to get it reactivated (needless to say, it was never hacked).

    Automated abuse reports and IP reputation databases are a scam.

  • zGatozGato Member

    @forest said:

    @ValdikSS said:

    @forest said: Maybe JustHost

    Avoid, that's incompetence multiplied by bad service.

    Spoiler

    Yesterday I bough a new server from them, which come with outgoing IPv4 connectivity banned. The support told me that the service has been restricted due to previous abuse, despite me buying the server 20 minutes earlier and all I did is just run apt upgrade.

    6 hours later, the speed won't get higher than 6 mbit/s, with average of 1-4 mbit/s. Support told me multiple times that such speeds are fine and expected for my 300 mbps "fair share" plan.

    I have CZ server with them for about half a year, and their "abuse" handling is total disaster. They believe that everything which comes to their email with the IP address mentioned is the abuse, for which the server have to be disabled, even if it's just a good faith notification email.
    And of course I have to double-ping them to unlock IPv4 network every time, because the first time they "unlock" it after the "abuse" message it still doesn't work.

    There's a CEO email listed, where you can write a feedback and solve uncommon issues, as they say. I wrote there twice, got no reply.

    That's odd. I have three services with them (Russia, Brazil, and Spain) and they're working just fine. Peering isn't the best, but performance has been as expected. I've never had them suspend any services.

    What do you mean by good faith notification email?

    Their abuse reporting system is dumb as fuck:
    like what is this :joy:

  • forestforest Member
    edited January 27

    From 4vps' L1 support:

    We do not block your server's access to any resources, please double check

    Well, let's see... Debian, Wikipedia, Google, Bing, LWN, FSF, GNU, GitHub, Stack Overflow, 4vps themselves, and even LET here are all blocked, dying after the second hop. However, VK and the Kremlin's sites can be accessed just fine.

    Oddly enough, IPv6 works fine.

  • mawsmaws Member

    @forest said: Well, let's see... Debian, Wikipedia, Google, Bing, LWN, FSF, GNU, GitHub, Stack Overflow, 4vps themselves, and even LET here are all blocked, dying after the second hop. However, VK and the Kremlin's sites can be accessed just fine.

    You could argue that they (4vps) don't haha

    Thanked by 2concept tentor
  • @maws said:

    @forest said: Well, let's see... Debian, Wikipedia, Google, Bing, LWN, FSF, GNU, GitHub, Stack Overflow, 4vps themselves, and even LET here are all blocked, dying after the second hop. However, VK and the Kremlin's sites can be accessed just fine.

    You could argue that they (4vps) don't haha

    I'm certain that's why they're so confused. They're checking their own configuration and seeing that nothing is blocked, without realizing that the VPS in that location is, quite literally, useless for every single distro template that have. I suppose I could try giving Astra Linux a spin. Maybe its repos work...

  • @forest said:

    I'm certain that's why they're so confused. They're checking their own configuration and seeing that nothing is blocked, without realizing that the VPS in that location is, quite literally, useless for every single distro template that have. I suppose I could try giving Astra Linux a spin. Maybe its repos work...

    For the repos to work, you will have to use a third party mirror.

  • forestforest Member
    edited January 29

    @concept said:

    @forest said:

    I'm certain that's why they're so confused. They're checking their own configuration and seeing that nothing is blocked, without realizing that the VPS in that location is, quite literally, useless for every single distro template that have. I suppose I could try giving Astra Linux a spin. Maybe its repos work...

    For the repos to work, you will have to use a third party mirror.

    Even the Russian Debian mirror does not work. I'm sure there are unofficial mirrors that do, but the VPS will be completely and utterly useless if it can only access a narrow subset of whitelisted Russian IPs.

    And they are definitely confused, saying:

    We won't be able to help you in this case, as sites can restrict access to their resources on their own and have their own access databases

    They seem to think that the problem is that other sites are blocking them. We'll see if they can understand the traceroutes.

  • @forest said:

    Even the Russian Debian mirror does not work. I'm sure there are unofficial mirrors that do, but the VPS will be completely and utterly useless if it can only access a narrow subset of whitelisted Russian IPs.

    They seem to think that the problem is that other sites are blocking them. We'll see if they can understand the traceroutes.

    If its getting blocked by gov, there is so much you can do.

    I mention the mirror repo because I've used an apps that use their own repo and it mistakenly geolocated one of vps IP as from Russia so it got blocked from downloading. They blocked it to comply with sanctions. Therefore someone else made a third party mirror repo and it worked with no issues.

  • @concept said: If its getting blocked by gov, there is so much you can do.

    Other than request a refund or migration to a different location. Ironically, even their own website is blocked.

  • conceptconcept Member
    edited January 29

    @forest said:

    @concept said: If its getting blocked by gov, there is so much you can do.

    Other than request a refund or migration to a different location. Ironically, even their own website is blocked.

    Damn, that is odd. I would get them to migrate to another location or maybe its IP specific since zGato didn't have as much issues.

  • @concept said:

    @forest said:

    @concept said: If its getting blocked by gov, there is so much you can do.

    Other than request a refund or migration to a different location. Ironically, even their own website is blocked.

    Damn, that is odd. I would get them to migrate to another location or maybe its IP specific since zGato didn't have as much issues.

    Once I can get them to understand that it's on the Russian side, I'll do just that.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited January 29

    I do not find 4vps.su cheap at all, their cheapest I found was about $5/mo.
    justhost I do not even look anymore, it's just not worth it.
    VDSina I liked a lot; they actually did have 1 Gb/s and generally good performance, not really cheap but worth the price.
    cloudcore.ru seems to be cheap but I'd definitely buy their 2nd cheapest VPS for a month (the cheapest has ridiculously low BW) before considering a serious VPS from them; hell, they do not even mention the processor type. But probably worth trying out.

    The only VPS in Russia I still have is with ihor. As I already have it since years it still has an E5v2 processor but I guess that nowadays they sell v4 or even Scalable based VPS. And I can reach each and every network target from there, incl. America, China, just everything!
    But there's a 'but': speed isn't high, BW is capped at 200 Mb/s IIRC. Not crappy at all but by far not what I saw with e.g. VDSina.
    And I can actually buy there/pay from Europe without crypto!
    More of a side-note, I also have used firstbyte; they are very similar to ihor and I guess both are just different fronts of the same provider.

    A propos crypto: Nowadays AFAIK pretty much every russian provider accepts crypto.

    Fun fact: I use my ihor VPS for circumventing western (eu-ropean) censorship.

    Thanked by 1emperor
  • @jsg the more ppl know about that fun fact, faster will be blocked.. 😉
    Also when I used landvps everything was unblocked.

    Thanked by 1jsg
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