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Poll : vibe coding adoption poll

dbadudedbadude Member
edited January 15 in General

I was wondering how much adoption there is for vibe coding within the LET community. How many hours you vibe code per week?

vibe code poll
  1. How many hours you vibe code per week?149 votes
    1. 0 hours
      37.58%
    2. 1-4 hours
      22.82%
    3. 5-8 hours
        6.71%
    4. 8-16 hours
        5.37%
    5. >16hours
      27.52%
«13

Comments

  • LeviLevi Member

    I "code" only with vibe. And that's a chore! I spend more time crafting precise input for damn LLM then actually writing code. And then after implementation - there is review and test phase. Mentally it is very exhausting. After 3 weeks of such "coding" I sense that I degraded in skill, completely lost in massive (unnecessary) codebase and just out of ideas wtf to do next, because if I start to add new feature - it is like jenga, it brakes something else, not even covered by automated tests.

    So:

    • first you think about feature
    • second, ask to write a test for that feature
    • then actually plan implementation
    • implement
    • re-test
    • manual test
    • out of credits, go suck dick

    It is very good for insanely small scope. But to code from the start till end - God save us all from such applications!

  • ralfralf Member

    Thanks @Levi. I've still not tried using using AI tools, but plan to block out some time in March to experiment while I have a break between contracts. Useful to set my expectations accordingly, as I'm an experienced coder so suspect it'll feel very slow and annoying, but equally there's some tedious stuff that always bores me to death when coding... but then also not sure I want to just trust AI to do it.

  • @Levi said:
    I "code" only with vibe. And that's a chore! I spend more time crafting precise input for damn LLM then actually writing code. And then after implementation - there is review and test phase. Mentally it is very exhausting. After 3 weeks of such "coding" I sense that I degraded in skill, completely lost in massive (unnecessary) codebase and just out of ideas wtf to do next, because if I start to add new feature - it is like jenga, it brakes something else, not even covered by automated tests.

    So:

    • first you think about feature
    • second, ask to write a test for that feature
    • then actually plan implementation
    • implement
    • re-test
    • manual test
    • out of credits, go suck dick

    It is very good for insanely small scope. But to code from the start till end - God save us all from such applications!

    Vibe coding is indeed like a game of jenga without automated testing.
    Out of credits, out of free credits you mean? Or you actualy pay for the vibe service provider?

  • @Levi said:

    • out of credits, go suck dick

    nice job

  • Use it for small personal crap for languages I've no clue about. Got a few neat things with it running.

  • @mans_xd said:

    @Levi said:

    • out of credits, go suck dick

    nice job

    everybody has their hobbies next to vibe coding.

    Thanked by 1mans_xd
  • @dbadude said:

    @mans_xd said:

    @Levi said:

    • out of credits, go suck dick

    nice job

    everybody has their hobbies next to vibe coding.

    i love to pet cats and go to gym

  • @mans_xd said:

    @dbadude said:

    @mans_xd said:

    @Levi said:

    • out of credits, go suck dick

    nice job

    everybody has their hobbies next to vibe coding.

    i love to pet cats and go to gym

    @ralf said:
    Thanks @Levi. I've still not tried using using AI tools, but plan to block out some time in March to experiment while I have a break between contracts. Useful to set my expectations accordingly, as I'm an experienced coder so suspect it'll feel very slow and annoying, but equally there's some tedious stuff that always bores me to death when coding... but then also not sure I want to just trust AI to do it.

    Yes good to invest time in it, as there will be a huge influx with millenial greenfield programmers raised with vibe IT knowledge. My experience so far with the vibe tools, I liked the results google's gemini gave for some programming tasks. However don't like those integrated IDE's with the wizzard like AI agents. Wizzard like programming tools often lead to over complex code, not easy to maintain.

    Thanked by 1mans_xd
  • Most people I know who can code without an LLM don't use them, (myself included), because you spend longer reviewing the code than you would writing it yourself.

    I can understand using an LLM and going YOLO if you can't understand the code it's producing, but it's not going to replace human developers, (regardless of all the hype and marketing nonsense).

  • Vibe code is okish for small personal hobby project. But for bigger enterprise, it is weak.

    It's pretty tiresome to review the vibe codes and I prefer to write from zero than reviewing vibe codes. It should not be used when project is serious.

  • @CloudHopper said:
    Most people I know who can code without an LLM don't use them, (myself included), because you spend longer reviewing the code than you would writing it yourself.

    I can understand using an LLM and going YOLO if you can't understand the code it's producing, but it's not going to replace human developers, (regardless of all the hype and marketing nonsense).

    The AI bubble machine will someday find a vibe coded new 'flappy-bird-app maker' and that will be the new whizz kid in town. Popularity can be bought. Like for example copilot is now being pushed in microsofts' it landscape.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @dbadude said:

    @Levi said:
    I "code" only with vibe. And that's a chore! I spend more time crafting precise input for damn LLM then actually writing code. And then after implementation - there is review and test phase. Mentally it is very exhausting. After 3 weeks of such "coding" I sense that I degraded in skill, completely lost in massive (unnecessary) codebase and just out of ideas wtf to do next, because if I start to add new feature - it is like jenga, it brakes something else, not even covered by automated tests.

    So:

    • first you think about feature
    • second, ask to write a test for that feature
    • then actually plan implementation
    • implement
    • re-test
    • manual test
    • out of credits, go suck dick

    It is very good for insanely small scope. But to code from the start till end - God save us all from such applications!

    Vibe coding is indeed like a game of jenga without automated testing.
    Out of credits, out of free credits you mean? Or you actualy pay for the vibe service provider?

    I use antigravity by google, which includes opus 4.5. It is limited use. Usually one bigger implementation and you are locked out for 5 hours to “cool off”. It is pro plan.

    Thanked by 1ariq01
  • @Levi said:

    @dbadude said:

    @Levi said:
    I "code" only with vibe. And that's a chore! I spend more time crafting precise input for damn LLM then actually writing code. And then after implementation - there is review and test phase. Mentally it is very exhausting. After 3 weeks of such "coding" I sense that I degraded in skill, completely lost in massive (unnecessary) codebase and just out of ideas wtf to do next, because if I start to add new feature - it is like jenga, it brakes something else, not even covered by automated tests.

    So:

    • first you think about feature
    • second, ask to write a test for that feature
    • then actually plan implementation
    • implement
    • re-test
    • manual test
    • out of credits, go suck dick

    It is very good for insanely small scope. But to code from the start till end - God save us all from such applications!

    Vibe coding is indeed like a game of jenga without automated testing.
    Out of credits, out of free credits you mean? Or you actualy pay for the vibe service provider?

    I use antigravity by google, which includes opus 4.5. It is limited use. Usually one bigger implementation and you are locked out for 5 hours to “cool off”. It is pro plan.

    cool i wil have antigravity for a try, dont know that one. I really like gemini so far, for the new languages it produces nice piece of code snippets. complete projects in vibe not my area yet.

  • @CloudHopper said:
    I can understand using an LLM and going YOLO if you can't understand the code it's producing, but it's not going to replace human developers, (regardless of all the hype and marketing nonsense).

    If anyone's interested, this article explains why replacing human developers with LLMs is destined to fail spectacularly: https://medium.com/@drsgunderson/ai-model-collapse-the-digital-mad-cow-disease-e74fce4dfd5d

    TLDR; training new models on LLM generated code will lead to "Model Collapse" in the same way that feeding animals to cows caused the "Mad Cow Disease" crisis in the 1980s.

  • TangeTange Member
    edited January 15

    a few months ago, people on this forum argued with me that vibe coding is a toy for 8-year-old kids and serious people don’t use it.

    now, Anthropic officially vibe-coded their own “manus” called Cowork in 10 days — 100% vibe-coded by Claude — and released it to public beta. Yes, the product isn’t good yet, but in just 10 days they managed to ship something testable.

    all I want to say is: some people will lose their jobs in the near future. eventually.

  • eva2000eva2000 Veteran
    edited January 15

    @dbadude said: I was wondering how much adoption there is for vibe coding within the LET community. How many hours you vibe code per week?

    20-40hrs/week for slow weeks and maybe 40-80hrs/week for busy weeks :grin:

    This week was a busy one maxing out my weekly quotas for Claude Max $100 plan and also for ChatGPT Plus and hitting rate limits on Gemini AI Pro plan.

    Added GLM 4.7 Pro coding subscription plan to my mix which helped and wonderful that Z.AI GLM is currently 64% discount off yearly plan so GLM Pro plan is only $10.80/month right now using with Cladue Code - my configuration and Claude Code starter template at https://github.com/centminmod/my-claude-code-setup#using-zai-with-claude-code :)

    Wasn't planning this put also setup Claude Code Github Actions https://code.claude.com/docs/en/github-actions but used Z.AI GLM 4.7 swapped in place so cheap for automated Github pull request automated reviews too !

    Got GLM plan as I am going to test out Claude Code Ralph Wiggum plugin which will chew through many tokens too https://paddo.dev/blog/ralph-wiggum-autonomous-loops/ and ^_^

    Thanked by 1sliix
  • @Levi said:
    I "code" only with vibe. And that's a chore! I spend more time crafting precise input for damn LLM then actually writing code. And then after implementation - there is review and test phase. Mentally it is very exhausting. After 3 weeks of such "coding" I sense that I degraded in skill, completely lost in massive (unnecessary) codebase and just out of ideas wtf to do next, because if I start to add new feature - it is like jenga, it brakes something else, not even covered by automated tests.

    So:

    • first you think about feature
    • second, ask to write a test for that feature
    • then actually plan implementation
    • implement
    • re-test
    • manual test
    • out of credits, go suck dick

    It is very good for insanely small scope. But to code from the start till end - God save us all from such applications!

    Have you tried Googles antigravity so far?

  • LeviLevi Member

    @gbzret4d said: Have you tried Googles antigravity so far?

    I used copilot and migrated to antigravity. Antigravity is better at planning and gives a bit more time with the Opus. Plus, I got it for 6.99EUR/month for first 3 months. Drained copilot trial and dumped, very low limits.

    For anyone considering antigravity: https://www.reddit.com/r/google_antigravity/

    At the moment, google pulling the rug for paid customers. You either upgrade to Google AI Ultra or suffocate your-self with Pro plan by having brakes each 5 hours (at best) and 4 days in a row (at worst).

    So yea, nirvana with generous limits is over.

  • @Levi said:

    @gbzret4d said: Have you tried Googles antigravity so far?

    I used copilot and migrated to antigravity. Antigravity is better at planning and gives a bit more time with the Opus. Plus, I got it for 6.99EUR/month for first 3 months. Drained copilot trial and dumped, very low limits.

    For anyone considering antigravity: https://www.reddit.com/r/google_antigravity/

    At the moment, google pulling the rug for paid customers. You either upgrade to Google AI Ultra or suffocate your-self with Pro plan by having brakes each 5 hours (at best) and 4 days in a row (at worst).

    So yea, nirvana with generous limits is over.

    I'm a subscriber of gemini. So worth a try you say?

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We have been coding before there were vibes.
    We used to code with pencils, against the examples on FoxBASE books.

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • Vibe coding just increases the intensity and accumulation of technical debt, that we'd have to solve on our own if we don't hit agi soon enough. Otherwise, we're left with the 'big ball of mud'. We’re betting on a future intelligence that may never arrive.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @yoursunny said:
    We have been coding before there were vibes.
    We used to code with pencils, against the examples on FoxBASE books.

    Yep. And at lunch time we submerged our-selves into the mud basin. That was cool.

  • My work is still fixing bugs which were caused by RAD tools from the nineties. So if you are a debugger and reverse enginering most of the time, you won't loose work because of some ai generated code will go into production now and the near future. However if your work is mainly coding green field projects, then there will be lots of competition from the dark AI side. AI can take the project description and boom. there is a proof of concept for the client to be reviewed way sooner than you can refill a coffee machine.

  • Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    regretfully, no.

    Thanked by 1barbarza
  • @MikeA said:

    @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    regretfully, no.

    Did you try threatening the A.I? :D

    Thanked by 1barbarza
  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 16

    @Yahome said:

    @MikeA said:

    @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    regretfully, no.

    Did you try threatening the A.I? :D

    unfortunately I have to pay to talk to the unhinged AI.

    Thanked by 2barbarza Yahome
  • @MikeA said:

    @Yahome said:

    @MikeA said:

    @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    regretfully, no.

    Did you try threatening the A.I? :D

    unfortunately I have to pay to talk to the unhinged AI.

    I find that refreshing the page and submitting the prompt again works

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @barbarza said:

    @MikeA said:

    @Yahome said:

    @MikeA said:

    @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    regretfully, no.

    Did you try threatening the A.I? :D

    unfortunately I have to pay to talk to the unhinged AI.

    I find that refreshing the page and submitting the prompt again works

    it's been like this for 2-3 weeks, maybe I'm blacklisted from using grok for plotting to overthrow elons musk.

    Thanked by 1barbarza
  • @barbarza said:
    Can I vibe code myself a girlfriend?

    Same what 2 teenagers said in the movie 'weird science' from 1984 40 years ago.
    She was hot, what came out of their 8 bit machine.

    Thanked by 1barbarza
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