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India court system utilized by dmca moguls
First time India law system used to enforce global blockade of so called “pirate websites”.
What is going on in India? Is it Italy #2?


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Pirate websites > scam operations
Here's a full list in case you'd like some movie this evening:
https://torrentfreak.com/images/high_court_order-8.pdf
Any financial operations make the "money wheel" spinning. Hence "quite OK".
"Pirate websites" don't. Hence "not OK at all!". Must stop, send FBI!
India isn’t becoming Italy; it’s becoming a strategic legal hub for rights‑holders who want fast, sweeping, and potentially global‑impact blocking orders. It’s a test case to see how far national courts can reach in the fight against piracy.
I don't know why, but for some reason I had greater expectations of indians in resisting this.
99% of them used CloudFlare to hide their IP addresses.
Why anyone outside India want to abide to India court order?
That's very dangerous precedent as "rights‑holders" not always correct/accurate for their "fast, sweeping, and potentially global‑impact blocking orders". Which leads to overblocking. Italy precedence shows that exact problem emphasized (cloudflare case) as profits prioritized vs anything, common sense including.
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Some names to avoid if you guys don't accept the fact that Indian court can order your domains to shutdown globally.
Multinational corporation has the soft spot for "world's largest nation". I won't be surprised if the court were bought by the copyright holders. Also, consider thu ubiquity of ethnicities of Indian origin in IT.
Sad. Porkbun's name in another drama.
All shit sites none knew or cared if they existed. Indian courts are being used as garbage cleaners.
Porkbun, Openprovider and Hostinger complied. Disappointed to see OP on the list.
Cloudflare used to effectively directly distribute the media of 99% of piracy streaming sites, since they were kind enough to cache HLS segments on the edge.
These days they block video streaming over their regular CDN and instead display a warning/blocking message in place of the video when someone tries to do so.
So for the media servers streaming sites don't really use Cloudflare anymore.
It's still pretty crazy Cloudflare gets away with their whole argument of being a neutral gateway, when they knowingly cache/host some pretty bad sites. It's probably because they're a US intelligence asset.
It's because one day, prince woke up and decide to be less neutral.
What’s the point for usa inteligence service from pirate content cache? There is people in inteligence service which analyzes cloudflare cached data and get paid for doing that?
They stopped caching media because it's expensive and not useful.
But cloudflare is 100% interested in continuing to host things like hacking forums, illegal drug stores, etc.
Intelligence agencies hate crypto. Then a US company emerged with unbeatable pricing and free tiers that ended up terminating TLS for 25% of web traffic and close to 100% of shady websites. You do the maths.
Trump has crypto. There is no hate for money, but it should be in the right pocket.
I think this is flat earth type theory. Cf hunts profit above all else, as business should do.
crypto as in cryptography, diffie-hellman, PKI
Good catch! They have all the keys from all doors. You should be pretty annoying cocroach to get attention, though.
because of that, many people came to know about these sites and use them heavily from now onward
honestly its becoming shit here..... u be close with govt, get anything like this done.
is it effective, thats a different story.
Wild how you would think crypto would refer to cryptocurrency in this context.
Snowden leaks showed how the NSA enjoyed collecting, classifying and analyzing all internet traffic before widespread encryption. Cloudflare brings them back to the good old days.
Will you ever notice that you’re being spied on? Likely not, unless you’re a target for them. But privacy is a human right.
You also wouldn’t notice if they had CCTV feeds all across your house, or if they were recording your screen and webcam at all times. Doesn’t mean that you would like that.
Ironically, LET is on cf
Yeah, feels like literally the entire web is. Really that 25% figure is quite an understatement, when you remove things like Netflix, YouTube, Instagram, etc. which don’t use CF but also are not particularly interesting for intelligence agencies (because it’s just tons of harmless media and companies which cooperate with them independently anyways).
Your actual day-to-day web browsing is effectively almost entirely plain-text for these entities.
FOSS community is the last bastion.
Hopefully hosts on LET one day could offer web reverse proxying. @tentor
As in Cloudflare CDN/WAF but MITMed by LET host instead? I am not sure how much value such service would bring tbh. But I could have misunderstood you.
Sadly, when you hire people not based on merit, you have donkeys leading the crowd.
In India, we give important positions to idiots with no/less merit just because they belong to some specific religion/caste.
I'm pretty sure the folks at the helm, do not have an iota of understanding how all this works and have just blatantly given the ruling.
Yes. Because having A record directly pointing to the server is uncomfortable. People would probe your ports
I don't know whether this has been proposed
But, let's say:
1. Skhron offer web reverse proxy for flat fee of €1/month/instance with API support. (adds up to the instance bandwidth usage)
2. Assume there's private address 10.0.0.0/8, fc00::/7 or public ipv6 space e.g /64 on both the reverse proxy and the client server
3. http server will be configured to listen at private address and/or public ipv6 /128 with optional ip whitelist e.g the reverse proxying server
The value? Let's say cloudflare got global hiccup. Assuming the registrar isn't CF, default it to the registrar NS, then add the reverse proxying servers. The downtime is limited to dns propagation.
Even without CF, we could eliminate the downside of vps compared to shared hosting.
If the only concern is reveal of an IP address of the customer VPS, I think it could be implemented without decrypting TLS at all. SNI field could be used to route requests to the expected backend.
Not sure if I am ready to invest my time into that, but it is definitely something I could add to roadmap. However, I am not yet sure how popular it would be.
I think it could work. If you're not sure, perhaps you could make a poll. It could double as load balancer too
Openprovider has legal presence in india they can't ignore any official order. I am looking to not renew my membership this year and maybe find something reliable soon.
It's wild you did instead of the actually used cryptography.
Are you fucking blind? That's fucking silly.