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Literally none of this applies to cherry picking or the US
Data protection is for life, not just Christmas.
The way I see it is:
TL;DR Eric/@VeloxMedia basically runs a rescue operation for Lewis' customers and he does that, at least so far, for free.
The alternative would have been our VPS belly up, simple as that -or- some other provider rescuing the VPS but asking us to pay!
This is a hosting and not a laws and regulations forum! The way I see it Eric basically saved our VPS.
Yes, the negotiations probably were made under duress and time pressure and the agreement possibly is not perfect.
BUT: The situation seems to have been simple: Lewis urgently looking for some provider to take over -> weak position. Eric on the other hand well funded -> strong position. Likely result: A deal respecting what probably was Lewis' major wish (keeping the VPS continuing to run for free for their lifetime (paid to Lewis, not Eric)) but with a strong "safety net" for Eric.
I think, but that's just a guess, that Eric's plan was to basically gain visibility and gratitude for "saving us". But he made a mistake by focusing pretty much only on a smooth transition and properly working services and "wasting" no time on PR.
Almost everywhere that likely would have worked out fine - but this is LET that is, (among others) lots and lots of self-entitled people ready to take their pitchfork and start a dirty war for less than $10 per year, and also having high, sometimes even insane demands for a very, very low amount of money.
And of bloody course they did not see that Eric basically saved their VPS and didn't even ask money for it, nope, they felt and only saw that Eric supposedly didn't meet weird gold standards.
TL;DR I'm grateful for what Eric did. He saved our VPS. Thank you Eric!
To all those who feel that Eric acted illegally or betrayed them: Sue him!
Making lots of noise here is cheap, even free, but actually going to court is not. That's the reason for all the yada yada.
Yes we do provide it. We're a new company though. You seem confused
Our logos different, our websites different and we don't have the same customers.
Why do you think we're the same company? Haven't I made this clear
And why haven't you disabled them? Why waste money?
Everything in the GDPR applies to data held about EU and UK citizens.
You have UK/EU customers, doesn't matter if you are a US company or not.
He doesn't have any customers. They're Lewis's customers. He just happens to have the keys to the servers and is paying the bills for no reason.
Me? Never! Just take a look what you actually are typing here.
He bought the data, it is him costumers.
He bought the servers, the data was just on it at that moment. He just hasn't turned them off yet.
This is 100% correct and exactly what's going on.
And of course we already provided all our legal information and properly registered and everything. We're abiding by every request and ticket. We're supporting everything we can and everything is online and BETTER than before.
Literally zero complaints from customers. Zero people complaining about their tickets not being answered or service shut off. 80 pages now and still not a single complaint.
I keep constantly offering to delete people's data yet still zero tickets this week to delete. Why complain when they don't want it deleted?
Every single time I'm on here the goalposts keep shifting and even though we're fully compliant we get hit with random things that don't make sense. Irregardless of anything GDPR related there's 30 days to notify. We didn't know veloxmedia existed before 12/21.
Should I? Is that what you you guys want? I'm so confused on here because everyone seems to want me to keep things running.
Can we make a poll on here? How about someone make a poll and 2 options,
should we shut down service and everyone lose their data and services?
Should we keep service active in whatever way we see fit.
Let's see the results
Every single one of our actual customers on discord asks us to keep the service.
We keep offering to delete but no one seems to take us up on it
Where is cherry picking?
I'm only asking why are you running it for free if you have no contract. They're not your customers. You're not getting anything from them. It's costing thousands a month to host them.
Where did you get this info? You can't just make stuff up
Look at the history. How can a dormant company without any annual accounts have customers?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11880554/filing-history
How can a dissolved company still have customers?
source: link
And who are Lewis. The company belonged to Mark Lovich.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11880554/officers
Oooooh, strap in lads, this is gonna be good!
Lewis! That cad!
Giving Lewis the benefit of the doubt, when selling the business to someone intending to carry on the operations and honour their ongoing contracts.
Nope, the responsibility for following GDPR regulations falls on EVERYONE who handles personal data.
Yes, he keeps stating that we're not his customers.
That's great and all, and he's entitled to do that, but not to keep any of the PII concerning UK and EU citizens without their consent.
As he's not providing the service on behalf of Lewis, he needs to get everybody's consent to use that data. That means informing each and every customer who is a UK or EU citizen (and as that includes any citizen residing outside the country, even those in the US) he effectively has to email everyone informing them.
Free or not free, it doesn't matter. He's still using everyone's PII illegally.
Or, and this is the really simple solution that he just refuses to accept exists: just make a statement that all the contracts will be honoured until completion. If they have to terminate any for reasons other than TOS violations, they will be refunded.
And if users decide not to consent to their data being used, they also need to be refunded.
That doesn't matter. He's breaking the law to do so.
Under duress? That's his problem for rushing it. There's a reason business takeovers normally take weeks not hours.
That's fine. And all that needs to happen for that to be true is for Eric to accept that we are all his customers and "Veloxmedia" is honouring the contracts from "Veloxmedia".
If he just wants to shut everyone's services down, he should just say that and do that.
If he just wants to keep everyone's services down, he should just say that and do that.
Asking people to follow the law shouldn't be a big ask.
Again, following the law isn't a gold standard. It's the normal standard.
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I'll ask ICO to investigate him for sure. But as he's stubbornly refusing to follow the law despite multiple people explaining it to him, I might as well let them clock run out on him and report him 30 days after so that it's a slam dunk.
Doing that also still gives him approximately 2 weeks to wise up and do the decent thing by following the law.
That's the beauty of having an organisation like ICO who take data protection seriously. They investigate breaches and they themselves prosecute.
Because you hold the PII for all of Lewis' customers and are still hosting all their services, pretending like you can ignore the law because "you're doing it for free".
Let me explain this easier. We allocated 12 million this year to this project, and basically get unlimited servers for low end, for free, and always will as we use our old enterprise servers for these.
A few thousand a month is nothing, we literally saved millions by offloading resources from our tier 4 DCs to these new lower tiers.
Because you hold the PII for all of Lewis' customers and are still hosting all their services, pretending like you can ignore the law because "you're doing it for free".> @network said:
This. Just disable everyone's VPS, send them an e-mail explaining that need to opt in to being your customers, and those that reply to you wanting to consent and take you up on your really generous free deal can continue being become your customers.
But if they're not customers, why are you providing this service for free? Why are you saying how you need to go out and buy new hardware to support them? They're not your customers. Let them go.
The reason, of course, is that you're complicit in Lewis' exit-scam and trying to delay the service termination until after the chargeback window ends.
There have been quite a few complaints. There were about 3 pages of complaints from @Alexchina alone. Stop lying.
You don't get to cherry pick the law. It all applies when its concerning personal data of EU and UK citizens.
That's an unrelated company.
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To which specific country’s law and legal statute are you referring? Please provide a citation to the relevant statute.
The users here have cited specifics while @VeloxMedia has cited nothing but fluff.
Yeah but no one goes around running servers for people for free, no matter how rich they are (unless they're selling something else like Oracle).
Oh, with same name and address as veloxmedia.co.uk on wayback machine.
OK great. A few thousand a month is nothing. So just promise to honour all the contracts to their end.
Yes but it says "zero complaints from customers" which is true because @Alexchina is not his customer. No one is.
Well, it could also be that those lawyers are looking forward to the claims, in which case Eric will provide a steady income for them...
Anyway, he really doesn't grasp it. So I guess he is stupid after all. At least stubborn to a level that is close to stupid. Talking about customers when I'm talking about personal data and people - not of customers. Talking about providing services while it's about having that data.
He simply doesn't grasp it and then you can "invest $12M", and may be able to run a few servers, but you simply don't have credibility as a merchant.