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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    And we keep requesting them to provide info so we can honor any requests to delete data.

    No breach or violation at all. Laws are crystal clear here. We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    There should be no data. You broke the law and you request people to request something from you! This is what hackers do when they ask for ransom.

    Notice how no one has stated a single actual violation. Obviously we know what we're doing.

    Look in this thread! It is full with people complaining about violation. Learn to read!

    All the circles and circles on here and not a single person has a legitimate dispute or issue with us

    Yes we do! We all complain! You did not read anything, did you?!

  • @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Calypso said:
    @VeloxMedia said:

    Your data controller is the one that gives consent to hold the data

    It's not "your" it's "a". A datacontroller is someone or an instance that has access to personal data of people. No, not customer, people. So when you don't have conscent from the people you have data from that you are allowed to have that data, you're in violation.

    At best you could have the situation where the previous owner, in his ToS, already mentions that that data will be shifted to a third party, but still people have to be informed that it will happen or happened.

    Even if you found the personal data on a street, the moment you use that data, according to EU regulations, you are a datacontroller and you should have conscent from people.

    So stop asking for the conscent to Lewis; you are in violation by having access to that data and using it without having conscent that you are the one having the data or even informed people.

    That isn't correct. Please explain how Lewis isn't allowed to give consent per the customers ToS. What specifically does their agreement state about this? No one has explained where this isn't allowed in lewis's agreement with them.

    And again regardless we're not in violation as we have at least 30 days.

    No, you have a hard MAXIMUM of 30 days. The guidelines say you should delete the data as soon as practically possible.

    It's Christmas, give him some time.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @VeloxMedia are you Eric or Lewis or Tom or Andrew From legal, today?

    Whatever keeps you entertained. Since this thread has gone completely off the rails and lacks any form of common sense it's all just a joke now.

    I guess since no more complaints about us not being real, not being an exit scam, not being lewis, we're onto not being GDPR again which doesn't make sense.... Because apparently Lewis wasn't ever GDPR compliant and no one seemed to care.

    I checked other companies on here and none of them seemed to mention GDPR compliance either. Again just another double standard apparently

    For the very last time:

    • We are either your customers and you have to honour the contracts.

    • Or we are not your customers and you should not have our PII, because we have not entered into any agreement with you and you claim to have no obligation to fulfill Lewis' contracts.

    It's clear that you just aren't listening. I'm done trying to explain it any more. I will be reaching out to ICO in due course though.

    The 2nd one. Now what's the policy on that? Because worst case we have 30 days to announce this and that's weeks away.

    If you have no intention of honouring the contracts, the data was transferred to you in breach of the regulations and you should not have it at all. It should be deleted immediately.

    And just to confirm you are in the EU correct? As this only applies to people in the EU.

    I am not in the EU. I am in the UK. The GDPR applies just as much to the UK as the EU.

    And yes please file with the ICO.

    πŸ‘

    Please cite the source that the data was in breach of regulations.

    Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    And we keep requesting them to provide info so we can honor any requests to delete data.

    And the way you do that is by sending out an e-mail to all Lewis' customers informing them that you have taken over the business and are providing the service from this point on. And you inform all your customers in EU and UK that they have a right to not give you consent, at which point you must provide them a refund.

    No breach or violation at all.

    Wrong.

    Laws are crystal clear here.

    Exactly.

    We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    Wrong.

    Notice how no one has stated a single actual violation. Obviously we know what we're doing.

    Read basically every post that isn't your for the last like 30 pages.

    Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing.

    All the circles and circles on here and not a single person has a legitimate dispute or issue with us

    All your customers in the EU and UK have a legitimate dispute with you. The majority of them probably don't read this post and know that you have illegally appropriated their PII because you haven't informed them of that and given them the chance to deny you that consent.

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @VeloxMedia are you Eric or Lewis or Tom or Andrew From legal, today?

    Whatever keeps you entertained. Since this thread has gone completely off the rails and lacks any form of common sense it's all just a joke now.

    I guess since no more complaints about us not being real, not being an exit scam, not being lewis, we're onto not being GDPR again which doesn't make sense.... Because apparently Lewis wasn't ever GDPR compliant and no one seemed to care.

    I checked other companies on here and none of them seemed to mention GDPR compliance either. Again just another double standard apparently

    For the very last time:

    • We are either your customers and you have to honour the contracts.

    • Or we are not your customers and you should not have our PII, because we have not entered into any agreement with you and you claim to have no obligation to fulfill Lewis' contracts.

    It's clear that you just aren't listening. I'm done trying to explain it any more. I will be reaching out to ICO in due course though.

    The 2nd one. Now what's the policy on that? Because worst case we have 30 days to announce this and that's weeks away.

    If you have no intention of honouring the contracts, the data was transferred to you in breach of the regulations and you should not have it at all. It should be deleted immediately.

    And just to confirm you are in the EU correct? As this only applies to people in the EU.

    I am not in the EU. I am in the UK. The GDPR applies just as much to the UK as the EU.

    And yes please file with the ICO.

    πŸ‘

    Please cite the source that the data was in breach of regulations.

    Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    ICO is going to have a field day with you on this. Good luck.

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    And we keep requesting them to provide info so we can honor any requests to delete data.

    And the way you do that is by sending out an e-mail to all Lewis' customers informing them that you have taken over the business and are providing the service from this point on. And you inform all your customers in EU and UK that they have a right to not give you consent, at which point you must provide them a refund.

    No breach or violation at all.

    Wrong.

    Laws are crystal clear here.

    Exactly.

    We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    Wrong.

    Notice how no one has stated a single actual violation. Obviously we know what we're doing.

    Read basically every post that isn't your for the last like 30 pages.

    Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing.

    All the circles and circles on here and not a single person has a legitimate dispute or issue with us

    All your customers in the EU and UK have a legitimate dispute with you. The majority of them probably don't read this post and know that you have illegally appropriated their PII because you haven't informed them of that and given them the chance to deny you that consent.

    You're joking right. What makes you think we must give a refund or have any obligation at all? Please cite the specific source for your crazy reasoning for this. How about a single piece in GDPR that mentions refund at all...

    We haven't taken over the business or anything at all your business is with Lewis. Like we keep agreeing to over and over.

    Again please cite the specific violation we've done and what isn't legit. Specific one here that MUST be done before 30 days.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @VeloxMedia are you Eric or Lewis or Tom or Andrew From legal, today?

    Whatever keeps you entertained. Since this thread has gone completely off the rails and lacks any form of common sense it's all just a joke now.

    I guess since no more complaints about us not being real, not being an exit scam, not being lewis, we're onto not being GDPR again which doesn't make sense.... Because apparently Lewis wasn't ever GDPR compliant and no one seemed to care.

    I checked other companies on here and none of them seemed to mention GDPR compliance either. Again just another double standard apparently

    For the very last time:

    • We are either your customers and you have to honour the contracts.

    • Or we are not your customers and you should not have our PII, because we have not entered into any agreement with you and you claim to have no obligation to fulfill Lewis' contracts.

    It's clear that you just aren't listening. I'm done trying to explain it any more. I will be reaching out to ICO in due course though.

    The 2nd one. Now what's the policy on that? Because worst case we have 30 days to announce this and that's weeks away.

    If you have no intention of honouring the contracts, the data was transferred to you in breach of the regulations and you should not have it at all. It should be deleted immediately.

    And just to confirm you are in the EU correct? As this only applies to people in the EU.

    I am not in the EU. I am in the UK. The GDPR applies just as much to the UK as the EU.

    And yes please file with the ICO.

    πŸ‘

    Please cite the source that the data was in breach of regulations.

    Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    ICO is going to have a field day with you on this. Good luck.

    Hope we get this info. We keep asking for people to submit info but no one will send a ticket or anything. Have you filed anything with the ICO yet? Will you do it today for us?

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    And we keep requesting them to provide info so we can honor any requests to delete data.

    And the way you do that is by sending out an e-mail to all Lewis' customers informing them that you have taken over the business and are providing the service from this point on. And you inform all your customers in EU and UK that they have a right to not give you consent, at which point you must provide them a refund.

    No breach or violation at all.

    Wrong.

    Laws are crystal clear here.

    Exactly.

    We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    Wrong.

    Notice how no one has stated a single actual violation. Obviously we know what we're doing.

    Read basically every post that isn't your for the last like 30 pages.

    Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing.

    All the circles and circles on here and not a single person has a legitimate dispute or issue with us

    All your customers in the EU and UK have a legitimate dispute with you. The majority of them probably don't read this post and know that you have illegally appropriated their PII because you haven't informed them of that and given them the chance to deny you that consent.

    You're joking right. What makes you think we must give a refund or have any obligation at all? Please cite the specific source for your crazy reasoning for this. How about a single piece in GDPR that mentions refund at all...

    We haven't taken over the business or anything at all your business is with Lewis. Like we keep agreeing to over and over.

    Again please cite the specific violation we've done and what isn't legit. Specific one here that MUST be done before 30 days.

    Right, this is hopefully actually the very last time.

    We haven't taken over the business or anything at all your business is with Lewis.

    Then you have no legal reason to have any of our data.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    There are some cases in this world when people have to go to jail for utter stupidity. This is one of those cases. Members of this community explained, and justified, and argued, and offered examples, and even offered legal proof... but unfortunately stupidity is infinite, while science and patience are finite. At this point everybody in my opinion needs to stop trying and instead take legal action. There is no saving and no redemption for this one.

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  • WiseWise Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Calypso said:
    @VeloxMedia said:

    Your data controller is the one that gives consent to hold the data

    It's not "your" it's "a". A datacontroller is someone or an instance that has access to personal data of people. No, not customer, people. So when you don't have conscent from the people you have data from that you are allowed to have that data, you're in violation.

    At best you could have the situation where the previous owner, in his ToS, already mentions that that data will be shifted to a third party, but still people have to be informed that it will happen or happened.

    Even if you found the personal data on a street, the moment you use that data, according to EU regulations, you are a datacontroller and you should have conscent from people.

    So stop asking for the conscent to Lewis; you are in violation by having access to that data and using it without having conscent that you are the one having the data or even informed people.

    That isn't correct. Please explain how Lewis isn't allowed to give consent per the customers ToS. What specifically does their agreement state about this? No one has explained where this isn't allowed in lewis's agreement with them.

    And again regardless we're not in violation as we have at least 30 days.

    No, you have a hard MAXIMUM of 30 days. The guidelines say you should delete the data as soon as practically possible.

    Please cite the source for the maximum of 30 days. And I keep offering to delete the data and will as soon as we become aware of it. But we're not aware of the data unless a chargeback or ticket comes up as we don't know what is in the EU and what isn't.

    Again GDPR only applies to EU and not everyone

    Pretty sure it’s maximum 30 days from the day you RECEIVED the data. Your legal team will know this though.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

  • @VeloxMedia said:
    That isn't correct. Please explain how Lewis isn't allowed to give consent per the customers ToS. What specifically does their agreement state about this? No one has explained where this isn't allowed in lewis's agreement with them.

    It's the EU law. Even if there is a conscent that (when someone gave it) stated that it could be transferred it is mandatory to inform the people who the data is about that as the new owner, who it is and in case people don't agree with that the new owner will remove the data.

    And again regardless we're not in violation as we have at least 30 days.

    Maybe you should go back to school because the period is a maximum of 30 days as already been pointed out.

    But you are still wondering why this thread is still going on. Because people don't read and keep asking the same questions. You want an example? Exact the stuff I've explained here has been explained in this thread a number of times. And you've read it. And you don't understand it.

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    The law applies to any data you hold about any EU and UK citizen, regardless of how you obtained that data. If they are not your customers, you have no legal right to have that data.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    And we keep requesting them to provide info so we can honor any requests to delete data.

    And the way you do that is by sending out an e-mail to all Lewis' customers informing them that you have taken over the business and are providing the service from this point on. And you inform all your customers in EU and UK that they have a right to not give you consent, at which point you must provide them a refund.

    No breach or violation at all.

    Wrong.

    Laws are crystal clear here.

    Exactly.

    We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    Wrong.

    Notice how no one has stated a single actual violation. Obviously we know what we're doing.

    Read basically every post that isn't your for the last like 30 pages.

    Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing.

    All the circles and circles on here and not a single person has a legitimate dispute or issue with us

    All your customers in the EU and UK have a legitimate dispute with you. The majority of them probably don't read this post and know that you have illegally appropriated their PII because you haven't informed them of that and given them the chance to deny you that consent.

    You're joking right. What makes you think we must give a refund or have any obligation at all? Please cite the specific source for your crazy reasoning for this. How about a single piece in GDPR that mentions refund at all...

    We haven't taken over the business or anything at all your business is with Lewis. Like we keep agreeing to over and over.

    Again please cite the specific violation we've done and what isn't legit. Specific one here that MUST be done before 30 days.

    Right, this is hopefully actually the very last time.

    We haven't taken over the business or anything at all your business is with Lewis.

    Then you have no legal reason to have any of our data.

    Please cite the sources. Specifically about the refund.

    And about you needing to be a customer for us to have a legal reason to have your data.

    Why won't you cite any of these sources. You keep saying the same things but they're not in the GDPR because they're not true. If you can show me why you think that I can help explain how you're wrong

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Calypso said:
    @VeloxMedia said:

    Your data controller is the one that gives consent to hold the data

    It's not "your" it's "a". A datacontroller is someone or an instance that has access to personal data of people. No, not customer, people. So when you don't have conscent from the people you have data from that you are allowed to have that data, you're in violation.

    At best you could have the situation where the previous owner, in his ToS, already mentions that that data will be shifted to a third party, but still people have to be informed that it will happen or happened.

    Even if you found the personal data on a street, the moment you use that data, according to EU regulations, you are a datacontroller and you should have conscent from people.

    So stop asking for the conscent to Lewis; you are in violation by having access to that data and using it without having conscent that you are the one having the data or even informed people.

    That isn't correct. Please explain how Lewis isn't allowed to give consent per the customers ToS. What specifically does their agreement state about this? No one has explained where this isn't allowed in lewis's agreement with them.

    And again regardless we're not in violation as we have at least 30 days.

    No, you have a hard MAXIMUM of 30 days. The guidelines say you should delete the data as soon as practically possible.

    Please cite the source for the maximum of 30 days. And I keep offering to delete the data and will as soon as we become aware of it. But we're not aware of the data unless a chargeback or ticket comes up as we don't know what is in the EU and what isn't.

    Again GDPR only applies to EU and not everyone

    Pretty sure it’s maximum 30 days from the day you RECEIVED the data. Your legal team will know this though.

    Yupp which was 12/21 at the earliest

  • @VeloxMedia said:
    But we're not aware of the data unless a chargeback or ticket comes up as we don't know what is in the EU and what isn't.

    Your customer portal still shows data of the people you are referring to as "we don't have their data". So you are the data controller. Don't turn things around by saying "let them come to us" when the EU law clearly states that the datacontroller (i.e. you) must take action.

    And you are not that stupid of not being able to see that country X filled in by the customer is in the EU or not. Or are you?

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @default said:
    There are some cases in this world when people have to go to jail for utter stupidity. This is one of those cases. Members of this community explained, and justified, and argued, and offered examples, and even offered legal proof... but unfortunately stupidity is infinite, while science and patience are finite. At this point everybody in my opinion needs to stop trying and instead take legal action. There is no saving and no redemption for this one.

    Well our information is posted on here. Please file any appropriate things you want.

    Again. Not a single person has cited anything specific about what's wrong. Just nonsense and no facts. When pressed for facts it's nothing because it's not true... And somehow I'm the one that doesn't know what I'm talking about.

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    https://gdpr.eu/article-6-how-to-process-personal-data-legally/

    Art. 6 GDPR
    Lawfulness of processing
    1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
    a. the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;
    b. processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;
    c. processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
    d. processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;
    e. processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller;
    f. processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject which require protection of personal data, in particular where the data subject is a child.
    Point (f) of the first subparagraph shall not apply to processing carried out by public authorities in the performance of their tasks.

    Kindly state which one (or more) of these is applicable to Veloxmedia

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Calypso said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    But we're not aware of the data unless a chargeback or ticket comes up as we don't know what is in the EU and what isn't.

    Your customer portal still shows data of the people you are referring to as "we don't have their data". So you are the data controller. Don't turn things around by saying "let them come to us" when the EU law clearly states that the datacontroller (i.e. you) must take action.

    And you are not that stupid of not being able to see that country X filled in by the customer is in the EU or not. Or are you?

    Only for customers we provide goods or services to. We don't provide goods or services to any of Lewis's customers.

    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Calypso said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    But we're not aware of the data unless a chargeback or ticket comes up as we don't know what is in the EU and what isn't.

    Your customer portal still shows data of the people you are referring to as "we don't have their data". So you are the data controller. Don't turn things around by saying "let them come to us" when the EU law clearly states that the datacontroller (i.e. you) must take action.

    And you are not that stupid of not being able to see that country X filled in by the customer is in the EU or not. Or are you?

    Only for customers we provide goods or services to. We don't provide goods or services to any of Lewis's customers.

    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    This doesn't mean what you think it does. Hopefully your lawyers have a better grasp of comprehension than you do.

  • xvpsxvps Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    bla bla ...

    ... We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    bla bla ...

    .

    veloxmedia.co.uk -> Direct Hosting Admin -> nalu10.pandahost.co.uk:2222/evo/Login -> nalu10.pandahost.co.uk:2222/evo/login/license-expired

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited January 8

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    There are some cases in this world when people have to go to jail for utter stupidity. This is one of those cases. Members of this community explained, and justified, and argued, and offered examples, and even offered legal proof... but unfortunately stupidity is infinite, while science and patience are finite. At this point everybody in my opinion needs to stop trying and instead take legal action. There is no saving and no redemption for this one.

    Well our information is posted on here. Please file any appropriate things you want.

    I'm already on it. Legal complaining is underway.

    Again. Not a single person has cited anything specific about what's wrong. Just nonsense and no facts. When pressed for facts it's nothing because it's not true... And somehow I'm the one that doesn't know what I'm talking about.

    Someone in UK needs to visit Lewis and offer him a pint at a nice pub. Lewis (whomever he is) managed to find a trustworthy idiot to sell his failing business to. He should receive a beer for finding someone so incongruous. I never thought something like this could be possible; yet here he is, at 77 pages.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    https://gdpr.eu/article-6-how-to-process-personal-data-legally/

    Art. 6 GDPR
    Lawfulness of processing
    1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
    a. the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;
    b. processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;
    c. processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
    d. processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;
    e. processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller;
    f. processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject which require protection of personal data, in particular where the data subject is a child.
    Point (f) of the first subparagraph shall not apply to processing carried out by public authorities in the performance of their tasks.

    Kindly state which one (or more) of these is applicable to Veloxmedia

    A.

    Did you give Lewis consent? What was your policy with him in regards to delegating consent?

    Again if you don't want consent then you should request it be removed.

  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    https://gdpr.eu/article-6-how-to-process-personal-data-legally/

    Art. 6 GDPR
    Lawfulness of processing
    1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
    a. the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;
    b. processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;
    c. processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
    d. processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;
    e. processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller;
    f. processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject which require protection of personal data, in particular where the data subject is a child.
    Point (f) of the first subparagraph shall not apply to processing carried out by public authorities in the performance of their tasks.

    Kindly state which one (or more) of these is applicable to Veloxmedia

    A.

    Did you give Lewis consent? What was your policy with him in regards to delegating consent?

    Again if you don't want consent then you should request it be removed.

    If somebody gave Lewis consent, then A would apply to Lewis using that data. It doesn't apply to you, because consent hasn't been given to you.

    Try again.

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member
    edited January 8

    @VeloxMedia said: Again if you don't want consent then you should request it be removed.

    Doesn't matter, you have bought data without consent, nor even a formal email you have sent. I believe a part of your clients doesn't even know that the brand has another owner.

    "GDPR? Whats that?"
    You wouldn't even realize that if you were living in a fantasy world.

  • ralfralf Member

    In any case, the point of GDPR isn't to try to skirt through by finding some technicality to justify misusing people's data. It's to make sure that companies do the correct thing when handling user data. If you do the correct thing, then everybody, everywhere benefits.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Another point is we're a US company and if we aren't providing goods or services thus no contracts then we're not required for those to be GDPR. It's only once we provide a good of service that they're considered GDPR. Otherwise it's just plain US data not subject to GDPR regulations.

    UK ICO will still deal with both you and Lewis for this. Regardless if you are a US company :)

    Yes but we only need to deal with customers in the EU/UK that we provide goods and services to, which would only be those purchases after 12/21.
    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    https://gdpr.eu/article-6-how-to-process-personal-data-legally/

    Art. 6 GDPR
    Lawfulness of processing
    1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
    a. the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;
    b. processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;
    c. processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject;
    d. processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;
    e. processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller;
    f. processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject which require protection of personal data, in particular where the data subject is a child.
    Point (f) of the first subparagraph shall not apply to processing carried out by public authorities in the performance of their tasks.

    Kindly state which one (or more) of these is applicable to Veloxmedia

    A.

    Did you give Lewis consent? What was your policy with him in regards to delegating consent?

    Again if you don't want consent then you should request it be removed.

    If somebody gave Lewis consent, then A would apply to Lewis using that data. It doesn't apply to you, because consent hasn't been given to you.

    Try again.

    https://gdpr-info.eu/art-14-gdpr

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    Only someone with a "I'm doing well, everyone else is doing badly" mindset would fail to grasp the 77 pages that exist.

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @xvps said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:
    I kindly request from any person in UK to report this clown to legal institutions there. This is a serious breach of privacy without customer's consent.

    bla bla ...

    ... We're 100% legit and operating properly.

    bla bla ...

    .

    veloxmedia.co.uk -> Direct Hosting Admin -> nalu10.pandahost.co.uk:2222/evo/Login -> nalu10.pandahost.co.uk:2222/evo/login/license-expired

    Thanks fixed!

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