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Don’t think we’ll need that many. VeloxMedia seem to be getting themselves into trouble.
It very much does. I think you should consult your legal department - and maybe they need some outside counsel.
But i thought we were talking to "Andrew from legal" and the velox account was taken over by legal!?!?!
@Saragoldfarb hows the discord looking?
Ahh I see the issue. We're Velox Media inc. I don't think veloxmedia was ever a real company, what's the address on the invoice? I thought it has Lewis's name on it as a sole trader and his address. You should really investigate that. Also if you want to know how we have your data you should file a complaint against the company you purchased it from. Velox Media inc is on the ICO and it's a new company so anything before 12/21 wasn't us.
See you're confusing the companies and people. Completely different. We're in different continents even.
Again we're not responsible for how we obtain data just responsible for maintaining that data is compliant from now on.
When you file a chargeback it'll be against lewis and you'll get the answers you seek.
Wrong! As a data processor you are also liable for continuing to hold and process data (and potentially making decisions outside of instruction around how data is processed if using to look up transaction records to identify chargebacks) despite knowing the data controller, Lewis, is non-compliant with his obligations under GDPR
He kept talking about the law, but seemed unaware that every country's legal code contains one provision: “prohibiting the possession of stolen goods."
'veloxmedia co.' came up with a new argument: offering services for free is an act of charity toward users.
We did and specialists in GDPR. Fully understand what's going on here. If you haven't noticed everything has been properly designed to protect us against liability and ensure we're holding the cards. This isn't our first rodeo.
But it's important to remember the facts. We're a US company and it appears that Lewis wasn't GDPR compliant nor required to be or stated such. These aren't our customers but just data we have. Our GDPR compliance started 12/21/2025
I knew this. Thanks for clarifying it over and over again.
So far so good. Two distinct companies. My problem is with your company. Let's not discuss about others.
What kind of stupid nonsense is this? You mean a hacker hosting illegal data on their servers is not responsible for how they obtain it?
You literally said you are GDPR compliant. You are forced by GDPR to state how you obtained data! Please enlighten us how you obtained all this data of so many customers.
I don't care. I repeat again: I do not want to chargeback. I want to enjoy popcorn - my account is my ticket at this circus.
From what I understand Lewis has the money and you have everything (including data - we can see it in accounts and services). In business one person pays money, and receives something in return. Usually people don't pay money to get money, so in my opinion it is normal for Lewis to keep his money. But you @VeloxMedia - you're "responsible for maintaining data" as you say, therefore you are responsible for all the data. The contracts are therefore yours!
Great, so you are admitting that the data you hold is subject to GDPR, that you are holding it as a processor, and that the data controller is not compliant?
Why are you saying Lewis has an obligation to be GDPR compliant? Why are you saying we have an obligation to be? Why is the data considered GDPR? We're a US based company> @alexanderras said:
No. Lots of assumptions being made and added here that aren't true.
That doesn't make any sense at all. What's stolen in you're scenario?
Honestly the seemingly endless time this dude has to spend bickering with customers he claims to have no responsibility for is kinda helping the argument against him at this point, everything else aside.
True. VeloxMedia has got to be the best clown I've seen on LET so far.
You have repeatedly said they are his customers. All UK companies, including sole traders, are subject to GDPR. Lewis is therefore subject to GDPR.
The data contains PII, and you have just said that you have GDPR obligations from 25/12 and have registered with the ICO.
No assumptions here - just going by what you have explicitly stated
No see it doesn't work that way. You don't have a relationship with my company. You're not a customer or anything. You don't matter.
Why do you say I'm forced to tell you where I obtained the data? Please cite the law. Obviously you know where I got the data so not really sure the question anyways.
Now GDPR states I must delete the data if requested among a few other things like protect the data. That's about it. Not really sure if your data is classified as GDPR. Are you in the EU?
@VeloxMedia has data of customers from previous owner of VeloxMedia but not responsible for how they obtained the data
(https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4708761/#Comment_4708761)
Smells like @Calin and @cociu ❤️
Administrators:
@trewq / @jbiloh / @FAT32
Moderators:
@hawc / @Jord / @netomx / @angstrom / @DP
So, 70 pages in and not a peep from the Administrators or Moderators. Guess LET Traffic is priority
PopcornLifeMatters
Servers and data you currently hold—even without the contract between you and clients, the servers are leased by users.
About the data, where did the compliance data in the documents you claim to have submitted to the ICO come from? It wasn't just picked up off the street, was it?
They WERE his customers and he's gone. We're a US company and we're only required to be GDPR compliant to our customers that we're providing services to that are in the EU. Those would only be people who have bought items in past couple weeks.
We're not providing services to Lewis's old customers they're just continuing to use whatever they have access to without any agreement.
I do. I have an account and services provided by you.
Actually I am. I paid. I have rights because I paid for my data to be hosted. You have my data and you host it.
You mentioned GDPR. That same GDPR compels you to inform customers of data changing ownership, or service transfers.
Well, you keep avoiding questions. I have to take you slowly, step by step in this ride of actual legal approach. When you see the consequences, you backpedal, refusing to answer.
You should always delete data that is not yours, precisely because it is not yours, unless someone asks you to do it through payment.
From what I know you were not paid, so justifications are required from your side as to why you have customer data.
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They remain his customers - unless he has voided the sales agreement and refunded them. If so, he should probably inform you so you’re not providing free hosting services to them.
For all new customers you are the data controller as the agreement with you. By holding the PII data of Lewis’ customers you are a data processor. You are subject to GDPR obligations towards both groups.
I think you might need to look for new external counsel - you’ve been given terrible advice.
Huh? We've repeatedly offered to delete anyone's data if requested. Servers are leased with Lewis... That's his responsibility to provide... It's not a physical item but an obligation/service he needs to provide.
What compliance data are you talking about? Our attorneys filed with the ICO all the proper legal documentation. It was all created from legal and filed.
Such a circus...
Where'd andrew from legal go???
In other news... benthost.com rip?!?
No. If data belongs to the business of someone else, and you acquired just the hardware, you should delete all the data. Data does not belong to you.
Then why are these with you, instead of Lewis?
I don't need to submit a deletion request. What you currently hold is stolen property. I have accounts on the domains and websites you own—how do you explain this relationship? How did you explain it to the ICO?
I think there’s a spelling mistake. They were supposed to be “benthos”, ie bottom dwellers
No. They're not Lewis's customers anymore. He did inform us. I've stated this over and over on here. You're missing the key detail and choosing to ignore it.
Yes he should have refunded them but he didn't. So the options are to chargeback or we keep system running but not assume as a customer and not provide a service.
Regardless this is only for EU clients and not all since we're a US company.
And no we have great advice, they just know what they're doing and understand the laws and ways on how to do things so we can get what we need done.
Systems stay online, we don't assume any liability and everyone is happy. We eat the hosting fees but whatever no biggie.
Anyone who isn't happy chargesback. Anyone new is GDPR if in EU if not they aren't because no need, although we file same policy for all anyways.
They remain Lewis is customers until agreements are voided and they are refunded. He can’t just decide they’re not his customers. You keep saying they are his customers over and over in this thread - how am I the one missing the key detail here?
You know they’ve not been refunded - you just stated this - and therefore you know they’re still his customers. You therefore remain a data processor under GDPR - it doesn’t matter where you’re based.
Yes. I ignored that detail because it is irrelevant. What matters to me for example is why you hold the customers accounts, info and data?
This is again irrelevant. You are not allowed to judge the decisions of other brands or businesses, unless you are their customer or something. You should mind your own business first.
Yes, but this is not up to you to decide. Your problem is why having data which you are not supposed to have?