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What’s going on with VirMach right now?

I forgot to cancel the PayPal subscription for one of my VPS, then I requested a refund in time just six days before the invoice was due.
It’s been almost a month since I submitted the refund ticket, and they keep telling me to wait for the billing department. What’s wrong with VirMach now? Did the owner just run away or something?
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  • Yes, they are gone for the couple past months. It seemed like unsustainable one man operation that relied heavily on automating everything.

  • @jnd said: relied heavily on automating everything

    And this is totally legit approach in order to minify running costs. Virmach created AI agent before LLMs even was a thing. They are hardcore on automating everything. You get no human interaction at this price point they operate.

    Paying for peanuts - receiving scripted monkey responses (or just NULL).

    Paid large amount? Chargeback.

    Thanked by 1Rubben
  • it's seasonal. wait for the season which he returns

  • Charge back yesterday!

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • Same thing that has been going on since several years. Gather all evidences and chargeback.

  • nothing new, same shit different year ?

  • I am wondering. . Are you still "Virmaching" ????

  • @Levi said:

    @jnd said: relied heavily on automating everything

    And this is totally legit approach in order to minify running costs. Virmach created AI agent before LLMs even was a thing. They are hardcore on automating everything. You get no human interaction at this price point they operate.

    Paying for peanuts - receiving scripted monkey responses (or just NULL).

    Paid large amount? Chargeback.

    The idea is smart. But then with such cheap offers you attract a lot of customers and any issues with hardware, data centers, anything outside of scope of AI autoreplies can quickly lead to falling apart.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • He is gone.
    Which is surprising because he was installing a lot of new servers and was very active not so long ago.
    I hope he is well

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • backtogeekbacktogeek Member, Host Rep

    To be honest, I am amazed they lasted this long, just be careful if/when you raise a PayPal dispute. Remember the agreement you made is with PayPal to send the money; if the service itself was available and you just "forgot" PayPal will not always be on your side.

    If you were within their terms, make sure you highlight that specific part in the PayPal dispute where they agree to refund payments made by subscription within xx days and a screenshot showing the clear date/time stamp of your request.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • It should be in a state of running away.

  • VirMach a.k.a VirmAche should be banned from LET. Died on 13/OCT/2025.
    LA location: flapping network.
    San Jose location: all servers down from weeks ago.

  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Levi said:

    @jnd said: relied heavily on automating everything

    Paying for peanuts - receiving scripted monkey responses (or just NULL).

    As I remember, they used to charge $15 if you wanted a human response.

    Thanked by 1Levi
  • Omg. I was pay invoice on nov 2025 because the vps still running (jp 7$/y)

  • NYC and AMS servers work for me.

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited December 2025

    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

  • zedzed Member
    edited December 2025

    @xvps said:
    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

    That's crazy. I wonder if he paid for multiple years up-front and couldn't get a refund or something? There's no way he'd still be paying it annually after walking away, right?

    edit: somebody pay him the 10 bucks or whatever to ask him lol

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @ValdikSS said:
    NYC and AMS servers work for me.

    My sub $10/yr NL VPS also is working fine and with high uptime.

  • @zed said:

    @xvps said:
    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

    That's crazy. I wonder if he paid for multiple years up-front and couldn't get a refund or something? There's no way he'd still be paying it annually after walking away, right?

    edit: somebody pay him the 10 bucks or whatever to ask him lol

    ...

    @jbiloh said:
    PayPal subscription payments are the best, particularly when people forget to cancel them.

    Thanked by 2zed yoursunny
  • remyremy Member
    edited December 2025

    @xvps said:
    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

    They are not paying the provider tag. It’s free for virmach, the legend.
    And I’m not joking, they have earned the lifetime provider tag. But still they didn’t want to advertise here anymore.

    I am worried about him, though. He was in the process of installing a huge amount of equipment in a new data center not long ago, and then suddenly there was no news from him from one day to the next.
    But this is virmach so you never know

  • @remy said:

    @xvps said:
    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

    They are not paying the provider tag. It’s free for virmach, the legend.
    And I’m not joking, they have earned the lifetime provider tag. But still they didn’t want to advertise here anymore.

    I am worried about him, though. He was in the process of installing a huge amount of equipment in a new data center not long ago, and then suddenly there was no news from him from one day to the next.
    But this is virmach so you never know

    2 days old post from OGF:

    @bmoto said:
    Status Update:
    Packet loss on my 3 LAX VPS are down from 25-30% previously, to less than 10% over the last 24 hours.
    San Jose has been down for 9 days. TYOC007 has been down for 11 days. ATLZ032 has been down for 29 days. TYOC027 has been down for 3 months and 13 days.

    Everyone should buy some more services from this legend.

  • @xvps said:

    @remy said:

    @xvps said:
    VirMach account: https://lowendtalk.com/profile/virmach

    Last Active: July 2022
    Roles: Member, Patron Provider

    VirMach is paying for a Patron Provider tag they haven’t used in four years, and people are still paying for stuff that doesn’t work, and are complaining about tickets that never get replies.

    That’s next-level stupid.

    They are not paying the provider tag. It’s free for virmach, the legend.
    And I’m not joking, they have earned the lifetime provider tag. But still they didn’t want to advertise here anymore.

    I am worried about him, though. He was in the process of installing a huge amount of equipment in a new data center not long ago, and then suddenly there was no news from him from one day to the next.
    But this is virmach so you never know

    2 days old post from OGF:

    @bmoto said:
    Status Update:
    Packet loss on my 3 LAX VPS are down from 25-30% previously, to less than 10% over the last 24 hours.
    San Jose has been down for 9 days. TYOC007 has been down for 11 days. ATLZ032 has been down for 29 days. TYOC027 has been down for 3 months and 13 days.

    Everyone should buy some more services from this legend.

    I’m not saying you should buy services from virmach. I cancelled 6 VPS there.
    The boss is gone.

  • I haven't hear virmach's promotion for a while. idk what's happen on them

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FAT32 said:
    I am still renewing every servers I have with VirMach and I think I need some help

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • jcn50jcn50 Member
    edited December 2025

    @WebProject said: As I remember, they used to charge $15 if you wanted a human response.

    I just got the confirmation from another "customer" that paid support did not change a thing as the man disappeared (died?) completely since 13/OCT/2025.

    @blackeye said: Omg. I was pay invoice on nov 2025 because the vps still running (jp 7$/y)

    I do not think it will last until NOV 2026!

    @xvps said: That’s next-level stupid.

    The guy @VirMach has his priorities messed up from the start~ he even bought and renewed a $50 .BLACKFRIDAY domain that sells NOTHING :D !

    @jsg said: My sub $10/yr NL VPS also is working fine and with high uptime.

    It's only a matter of time before it goes offline~

    Thanked by 1msatt
  • I have four of their servers have no issues, one of them I've had for about four or five years

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @cybertech said:
    it's seasonal. wait for the season which he returns

    That's the thing, he didn't make a return this year.

    Usually things would be in bad shape up until the start of fall, and then he'd show up, sort whatever, and then get sales up for BF/CM. This year he didn't do that, nor any (new?) offerings.

    Good luck everyone.

    Francisco

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Francisco said:

    @cybertech said:
    it's seasonal. wait for the season which he returns

    That's the thing, he didn't make a return this year.

    Usually things would be in bad shape up until the start of fall, and then he'd show up, sort whatever, and then get sales up for BF/CM. This year he didn't do that, nor any (new?) offerings.

    Good luck everyone.

    Francisco

    What if VirmAche sales only occur in leap years?

  • @Francisco said:

    @cybertech said:
    it's seasonal. wait for the season which he returns

    That's the thing, he didn't make a return this year.

    Usually things would be in bad shape up until the start of fall, and then he'd show up, sort whatever, and then get sales up for BF/CM. This year he didn't do that, nor any (new?) offerings.

    Good luck everyone.

    Francisco

    He planned to return but did not execute it. He updated the year on vps.blackfriday but never followed through.

  • was never good :D

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