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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:
    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

  • My pinky on Dec 23 :lol: :(

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

    Was thinking a quick rice dish or something....

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

    What's your most favourite sci-fi / mind f movie? Mine is still prolly Fight Club followed closely by Source code maybe

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

    Was thinking a quick rice dish or something....

    Those are mostly a part of my daily intake. Try chicken biryani when you have time

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Asians (well mostly related to Japanese people) have hard times pronouncing L as it is, so they usually replace it with R. it is very prominent in that amazing anime DEATH NOTE, where many characters were named with 1 letter, for specific reasons.. anyways, main character name was L, and of course everyone called him R.. I watched it long ago with subtitles.

    Oh got it. Kinda like "your phone is linging"

    it's the L that is replaced with R, not the other way around. Japanese technically don't have sounds that are traditional English L and R, but they do have sounds that replace those in their speech, so when they say L it sounds very much like R.. it's hard to explain, it's a Japan thing.. like they said on Jersey Shore and in New Jersey in general - you wouldn't understand, it's a Jersey thing..

    Oh, it's a recent ongoing viral meme thingy I saw recently, making fun of Asians. I don't condone it though.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/-gCDBeJEM4k?si=Q7ax7q0-UfaeALmn

    maybe.. i guess different words may be said differently.. i only noticed when L is replaced by R, not the other way around.

    you know, it's like clash of cultures.. i saw these Asian-Americans making fun of how blacks here are offended by the n-word but call each other and everyone else that with no issues, so these Asian dudes did video where they call each other NINJA.. and then i think Irish dudes made a video where they called each other GINJA (as in ginger a.k.a. red head).. the stipulation here is that if you are of that race that's offended by some stereotypical word, you can still make fun of it among yourselves.. and such. racial stuff is very confusing to me.. i grew up in Soviet Union. racial tensions there were simply nonexistent. only in America was i instantly dipped into all this racial discrimination stuff..

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    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Sorry, it's a cheap and somewhat racist joke.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_of_English_/r/and/l/_by_Japanese_speakers

    There's a similar effect in many Asian languages as many don't have a sound equivalent to the English r, so there's the stereotype of mixing up l and r completely. If you try to make both l and r sounds in English and switch between them, you'll realise that all you're doing is moving the tongue up to touch the roof of the mouth (l) or down so that it doesn't block airflow (r).

    The English r sound is actually quite unusual and very unlike most languages even in the west, and the r in English is closer to a vowel than a consonant, apart from when it's between two other vowels (were it's more like a partially formed f sound). It's very different to say a French r (where the tongue is touching the back of the mouth and the top) and the two Spanish r sounds (both of which the tongue is right at the front of the mouth, either touching the gums or the top teeth).

    Oh! Haven't heard about this slur.

    i am SLURRRRR, i come from planet OMICRON PERSEI-8.. =)

    Guessing this isn't from our galaxy.

    it's Futurama, i thought you said you liked it.. probably forgot..

    the fun part is pronouncing the second part of the planet name.. try.. if you don't see the joke, i can point it out

    Oh, you prolly have someone else confused maybe dadev or pudlez. This is the first I am hearing of Futurama

    pardon me.. ok then well, PERSEI-8 sounds like "pussy i ate".. it's a futurama thing..

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

    What's your most favourite sci-fi / mind f movie? Mine is still prolly Fight Club followed closely by Source code maybe

    Fight club for sure!

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Classic!

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

    Was thinking a quick rice dish or something....

    Those are mostly a part of my daily intake. Try chicken biryani when you have time

    Let me Google that.

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Asians (well mostly related to Japanese people) have hard times pronouncing L as it is, so they usually replace it with R. it is very prominent in that amazing anime DEATH NOTE, where many characters were named with 1 letter, for specific reasons.. anyways, main character name was L, and of course everyone called him R.. I watched it long ago with subtitles.

    Oh got it. Kinda like "your phone is linging"

    it's the L that is replaced with R, not the other way around. Japanese technically don't have sounds that are traditional English L and R, but they do have sounds that replace those in their speech, so when they say L it sounds very much like R.. it's hard to explain, it's a Japan thing.. like they said on Jersey Shore and in New Jersey in general - you wouldn't understand, it's a Jersey thing..

    Oh, it's a recent ongoing viral meme thingy I saw recently, making fun of Asians. I don't condone it though.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/-gCDBeJEM4k?si=Q7ax7q0-UfaeALmn

    maybe.. i guess different words may be said differently.. i only noticed when L is replaced by R, not the other way around.

    you know, it's like clash of cultures.. i saw these Asian-Americans making fun of how blacks here are offended by the n-word but call each other and everyone else that with no issues, so these Asian dudes did video where they call each other NINJA.. and then i think Irish dudes made a video where they called each other GINJA (as in ginger a.k.a. red head).. the stipulation here is that if you are of that race that's offended by some stereotypical word, you can still make fun of it among yourselves.. and such. racial stuff is very confusing to me.. i grew up in Soviet Union. racial tensions there were simply nonexistent. only in America was i instantly dipped into all this racial discrimination stuff..

    Agree 100%! I have felt the same as well. I mean if you are offended by something, maybe stop using it among yourselves such that it's soon phased out or something. As long as you don't make the change, how can you expect the others to follow.

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Sorry, it's a cheap and somewhat racist joke.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_of_English_/r/and/l/_by_Japanese_speakers

    There's a similar effect in many Asian languages as many don't have a sound equivalent to the English r, so there's the stereotype of mixing up l and r completely. If you try to make both l and r sounds in English and switch between them, you'll realise that all you're doing is moving the tongue up to touch the roof of the mouth (l) or down so that it doesn't block airflow (r).

    The English r sound is actually quite unusual and very unlike most languages even in the west, and the r in English is closer to a vowel than a consonant, apart from when it's between two other vowels (were it's more like a partially formed f sound). It's very different to say a French r (where the tongue is touching the back of the mouth and the top) and the two Spanish r sounds (both of which the tongue is right at the front of the mouth, either touching the gums or the top teeth).

    Oh! Haven't heard about this slur.

    i am SLURRRRR, i come from planet OMICRON PERSEI-8.. =)

    Guessing this isn't from our galaxy.

    it's Futurama, i thought you said you liked it.. probably forgot..

    the fun part is pronouncing the second part of the planet name.. try.. if you don't see the joke, i can point it out

    Oh, you prolly have someone else confused maybe dadev or pudlez. This is the first I am hearing of Futurama

    pardon me.. ok then well, PERSEI-8 sounds like "pussy i ate".. it's a futurama thing..

    Lol, man. Thanks for clarifying. I wont have guessed it.

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    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Asians (well mostly related to Japanese people) have hard times pronouncing L as it is, so they usually replace it with R. it is very prominent in that amazing anime DEATH NOTE, where many characters were named with 1 letter, for specific reasons.. anyways, main character name was L, and of course everyone called him R.. I watched it long ago with subtitles.

    Oh got it. Kinda like "your phone is linging"

    it's the L that is replaced with R, not the other way around. Japanese technically don't have sounds that are traditional English L and R, but they do have sounds that replace those in their speech, so when they say L it sounds very much like R.. it's hard to explain, it's a Japan thing.. like they said on Jersey Shore and in New Jersey in general - you wouldn't understand, it's a Jersey thing..

    Japanese technically doesn't have either of the L or R sounds that we have in English, but a single sound midway between these. That one sound is used to approximate both L and R when English words are used.

    There's an interesting phenomena in linguistics that your brain pathways get used to certain sounds and they're pre-filtered down to a subset of possible sounds before your brain starts analysing them phonetically. When you hear a language that uses a different set of sounds, your brain approximates them into the set of sounds that you're used to hearing, and so when starting a new language, it can be very hard to even hear the difference between the two sounds. The only way as an adult to really gain that skill is to A/B test it and repeatedly switch between the two sounds until you can hear the difference, and continue until you can reliably tell them apart, and only then can you start to pronounce them differently.

    What's interesting is that young babies start of being able to hear all these different sounds, but obviously it's all just a meaningless jumble of sounds to them at first, but in their first few months of listening, they start learning the sounds of their mother tongue and their brain starts learning to ignore all the sounds they don't hear. Kind of like training an AI model I guess. And so, if a baby is exposed to the sound of a lot of languages, even if they don't actually speak them, it's a lot easier for them to learn them later in life.

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    I think I once had that at an Indian friend. Not sure if I can make it that nice but tasty. Looking up the spices :)

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    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

    What's your most favourite sci-fi / mind f movie? Mine is still prolly Fight Club followed closely by Source code maybe

    Fight club for sure!

    Oh man..I rewatched that last month yet again.

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    Classic!

    The first rule of fight club is ....

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    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

    Was thinking a quick rice dish or something....

    Those are mostly a part of my daily intake. Try chicken biryani when you have time

    Let me Google that.

    It isn't a quick dish though.

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    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

    What's your most favourite sci-fi / mind f movie? Mine is still prolly Fight Club followed closely by Source code maybe

    Fight club for sure!

    Oh man..I rewatched that last month yet again.

    Now you got me hooked. Added it to my watchlist :)

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    Classic!

    The first rule of fight club is ....

    ....

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    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

    Probably "5 dorra long time"

    BTW, what is dorra?

    Asians (well mostly related to Japanese people) have hard times pronouncing L as it is, so they usually replace it with R. it is very prominent in that amazing anime DEATH NOTE, where many characters were named with 1 letter, for specific reasons.. anyways, main character name was L, and of course everyone called him R.. I watched it long ago with subtitles.

    Oh got it. Kinda like "your phone is linging"

    it's the L that is replaced with R, not the other way around. Japanese technically don't have sounds that are traditional English L and R, but they do have sounds that replace those in their speech, so when they say L it sounds very much like R.. it's hard to explain, it's a Japan thing.. like they said on Jersey Shore and in New Jersey in general - you wouldn't understand, it's a Jersey thing..

    Japanese technically doesn't have either of the L or R sounds that we have in English, but a single sound midway between these. That one sound is used to approximate both L and R when English words are used.

    There's an interesting phenomena in linguistics that your brain pathways get used to certain sounds and they're pre-filtered down to a subset of possible sounds before your brain starts analysing them phonetically. When you hear a language that uses a different set of sounds, your brain approximates them into the set of sounds that you're used to hearing, and so when starting a new language, it can be very hard to even hear the difference between the two sounds. The only way as an adult to really gain that skill is to A/B test it and repeatedly switch between the two sounds until you can hear the difference, and continue until you can reliably tell them apart, and only then can you start to pronounce them differently.

    What's interesting is that young babies start of being able to hear all these different sounds, but obviously it's all just a meaningless jumble of sounds to them at first, but in their first few months of listening, they start learning the sounds of their mother tongue and their brain starts learning to ignore all the sounds they don't hear. Kind of like training an AI model I guess. And so, if a baby is exposed to the sound of a lot of languages, even if they don't actually speak them, it's a lot easier for them to learn them later in life.

    We have similar issues with Indian languages as well. Some languages in India have sounds that don't exist in others and such words usually require substitution.

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    anyone ever installed linux OS from ISO on a remote VPS?

    i asked earlier but maybe post was too long so got ignorrrred..

    I did reply to that asking if the VPS would let you run another process when the manager was showing a task was in progress.
    On RackNerd for example with solusvm, once they add your custom iso, it's as easy as just choosing it as the first boot option and using the browser based VNC to install

    oh thanks. somehow i missed it. currently nothing is available there, just performing task and any other tab or page says "cannot do nothing while performing task". so i gotta wait for admin to fix it for me, i guess. then try again something else..

    Are you able to access the BIOS settings and set the boot drive? Or, how do they expect you to boot from the ISO?

    i think i saw the boot option, but can't recall. right now nothing is accessible.. and it takes multiple days to get a reply on the ticket. so probably monday..

    That's sad. Maybe try to get in touch with on LET if they are a provider here and see if they can move things along.

    it's a thing with offers on LET, didn't you know? quite often little to no support is included in price of the offers. =) so then support is "delayed" until there's nothing else to do, then they help those who bought VPS via LET. not everyone does it though.. like RackNerd for example.

    Who we talking?

    heartbeat-it..

    They not good?

    they only have debian 13, i wanted ubuntu, they said it'll be next month, although on the offer it said "debian 13 only, others will be next week", anyway, i have complications installing ubuntu24 myself, i tried and VPS has been "performing a task" for the past 14 hours.. and reply from support takes days.. so i am asking here now for advice on how to go about installing ubuntu when VPS is hopefully back and is equipped with Debian 13 once again. i never did install linux on a VPS other than a quick menu option. now i'll have to try ISO and mounting it and other things.. not sure.. maybe i will keep trying compiling the software i need on Debian 13, as at least it doesn't screw up the OS, or at least i can rebuild it via simple menu option in the dashboard. I need my Swedish VPS to work for me.. I bought the "doubled" one with 2GB RAM for €12.24, couldn't catch the €6.66 offer. as such, i am uncomfortable with it idling..

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    I think I once had that at an Indian friend. Not sure if I can make it that nice but tasty. Looking up the spices :)

    Yah. Definitely tasty and something anyone could love, but is difficult to make

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    Any mugs today?

    Not yet. Up for some hyping maybe?

    Maybe a bit later. Just checking in for a minute but gotta start preparing dinner soon.

    What's for dinner? If there is custard for dessert, ralf would love to join

    Lol, nah no desert today I think. Still figuring out what to make!

    Would you like the hype squad help you decide? What are the options you are considering though?

    Was thinking a quick rice dish or something....

    Those are mostly a part of my daily intake. Try chicken biryani when you have time

    Let me Google that.

    It isn't a quick dish though.

    Ye I guess, guess I'll have to add my own spin to it.

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    BTW has anyone watched the movie K-Pax?

    No.

    You have to if you are into sci-fi mind-f kinda movies

    I'll ad it to my watch list. When I'm in the mood for it I like them.

    What's your most favourite sci-fi / mind f movie? Mine is still prolly Fight Club followed closely by Source code maybe

    Fight club for sure!

    Oh man..I rewatched that last month yet again.

    Now you got me hooked. Added it to my watchlist :)

    Would watch it again this new year

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