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  • @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    Had a tough time pronouncing "a reverse flowing river or ravine is ravishing" :lol:

    That's almost a tongue twister for natives, so I wouldn't worry too much about that!

    Yah, but saying r in these sentences with an American accent was a nightmare for me, who has spoken with an Indian accent my whole life

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    What are y'all doing rn?

    Inam debating whether to watch Mission Impossible Final reckoning or not. Hbu?

    Just got back from my lunch break. ehehehhe

    BTW, WFH today or at the store?

    Working from home today.
    Tomorrow is a long day for me 12:30 - 20:00 :neutral:
    But no work on sunday this time!

    Oh that's a relief. I guess you have to do 30 minutes overtime tomorrow for a complete holiday this Sunday, right?

    Wha?

    I mean you have to work for 8:30 hours instead of usual 8 tomorrow, right?

    Well normally i work about 5 hours on saturday (tomorrow) and like 3-6 hours on sunday. But this week, I work 7.5 hours on saturday and nothing on sunday.

    Oh ok. Got it. But, seriously though, there should be universal law or something against unpaid internships. Kinda feels like a glorified form of modern slavery to me.

    Well my work on saturday/sunday IS paid luckily. At a grocery store :)

    Oh. I thought the whole internship was at the grocery store.

    Ooh no. Monday-friday is unpaid internship at a software development company. Have to do an internship for my study.
    In weekend (often saturday + sunday), I work (paid) at a grocery store

    Oh ok. That's good then. But, that's leave you with so little time. I respect the grind brother. More power to you.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    but yeah, there should be a law that requires interns to be paid

    It should be a part of basic human rights.

    yeah

    UNHR does talk a lot, but isn't ready to do anything about the ideas they so proudly propound

  • @BasToTheMax said:
    Anyone from the gang here playing minecraft?

    minecraft is the domain of the younger generation. IMO

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    brb. going to eat lunch

    Sure, bro. Join us whenever you can.

    I'm on phone now for a few minutes

    Been on phone all day long. Too tired for PC. Also have beackache.

    were you trying to say beak-ache? =)

    Lol! Pardon me, I meant backache. Have been horizontal most of the day on my phone and I hate the Android keyboard.
    BTW, might need a link to that pillow you use very soon :lol:

  • @BasToTheMax said:
    Doing free unpaid work now basically. at 40 hours a week

    How many months is it BTW? Sorry if you have already mentioned this before, I can't remember.

  • Gotta go out. Will be back in an hour or so. You guys keep the Convo alive.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    What are y'all doing rn?

    Inam debating whether to watch Mission Impossible Final reckoning or not. Hbu?

    Just got back from my lunch break. ehehehhe

    BTW, WFH today or at the store?

    Working from home today.
    Tomorrow is a long day for me 12:30 - 20:00 :neutral:
    But no work on sunday this time!

    Oh that's a relief. I guess you have to do 30 minutes overtime tomorrow for a complete holiday this Sunday, right?

    Wha?

    unpaid work has no overtime.. but normally it has to be over 8hrs ow work in a day to be counted as overtime.

  • @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:
    I forgot to say that most of the really good English speakers I've met have got good through TV - watching cartoons when they were young, then shows like Friends as they were growing up. It's basically just absorbing language content in something you really enjoy, and so you're invested it trying to figure out the meaning until it becomes so common that it's just an intuitive understanding. I think more and more people are learning via online gaming, e.g. PUBG.

    Oh yes. No one really learns English or for that matter any language using the traditional methods anymore. But, Duolingo is great for this purpose. My friends have cracked exams using Duolingo for foreign languages. As for me, I did most of my learning from English songs, atleast the accent. But, recently trying to do recording for a TTS AI, I realised speaking in American accent is a different beast than singing. Had a tough time pronouncing "a reverse flowing river or ravine is ravishing" :lol:

    this is the zenith.. is this the zenith?

  • @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Thanked by 1noob404
  • @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    Doing free unpaid work now basically. at 40 hours a week

    How many months is it BTW? Sorry if you have already mentioned this before, I can't remember.

    5 months in total. 2 months left still. Last day is 30 january

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    brb. going to eat lunch

    Sure, bro. Join us whenever you can.

    I'm on phone now for a few minutes

    Been on phone all day long. Too tired for PC. Also have beackache.

    were you trying to say beak-ache? =)

    Lol! Pardon me, I meant backache. Have been horizontal most of the day on my phone and I hate the Android keyboard.
    BTW, might need a link to that pillow you use very soon :lol:

    there are some positions when i'm on/with the phone that give me a stupid headaches.. maybe it's the vision deterioration, have to keep it like hand-length away from my face to be able to get away without getting a brain splitting ache.. but in bed (couch) i sleep.. they say the bed should be a place to sleep, having your phone in bed makes it less easy to fall asleep, even if you do it in day time and sleep at night.. bed needs to be associated with rest, being on your phone is not rest.

  • @bchot said:
    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such..

    That sounds a bit like Trump wanting to kick immigrants out of the USA after marrying two of them himself. ;)

    Thanked by 1bchot
  • i wonder if in the gleam thing they will do those 10points codes in posts again..

  • anyone ever installed linux OS from ISO on a remote VPS?

    i asked earlier but maybe post was too long so got ignorrrred..


  • ignore..

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:
    I forgot to say that most of the really good English speakers I've met have got good through TV - watching cartoons when they were young, then shows like Friends as they were growing up. It's basically just absorbing language content in something you really enjoy, and so you're invested it trying to figure out the meaning until it becomes so common that it's just an intuitive understanding. I think more and more people are learning via online gaming, e.g. PUBG.

    Oh yes. No one really learns English or for that matter any language using the traditional methods anymore. But, Duolingo is great for this purpose. My friends have cracked exams using Duolingo for foreign languages. As for me, I did most of my learning from English songs, atleast the accent. But, recently trying to do recording for a TTS AI, I realised speaking in American accent is a different beast than singing. Had a tough time pronouncing "a reverse flowing river or ravine is ravishing" :lol:

    this is the zenith.. is this the zenith?

    Sorry, bchot. You will have to explain that reference to poor old me

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    Doing free unpaid work now basically. at 40 hours a week

    How many months is it BTW? Sorry if you have already mentioned this before, I can't remember.

    5 months in total. 2 months left still. Last day is 30 january

    Oh. Good then. Post that you can pursue your passion

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:
    I forgot to say that most of the really good English speakers I've met have got good through TV - watching cartoons when they were young, then shows like Friends as they were growing up. It's basically just absorbing language content in something you really enjoy, and so you're invested it trying to figure out the meaning until it becomes so common that it's just an intuitive understanding. I think more and more people are learning via online gaming, e.g. PUBG.

    Oh yes. No one really learns English or for that matter any language using the traditional methods anymore. But, Duolingo is great for this purpose. My friends have cracked exams using Duolingo for foreign languages. As for me, I did most of my learning from English songs, atleast the accent. But, recently trying to do recording for a TTS AI, I realised speaking in American accent is a different beast than singing. Had a tough time pronouncing "a reverse flowing river or ravine is ravishing" :lol:

    this is the zenith.. is this the zenith?

    Sorry, bchot. You will have to explain that reference to poor old me

    nothing to explain. just a practice for different sounding THs.. i don't know why i typed it. thought it was another tongue twister, but it is not so hard to say.. this one is better

    she sells the seashells .. =)

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

  • ok have fun, y'all, i am off

  • @bchot said:
    ok have fun, y'all, i am off

    Bye! Don't spend spend that dorra all at once!

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  • @bchot said:

    @BasToTheMax said:
    Anyone from the gang here playing minecraft?

    minecraft is the domain of the younger generation. IMO

    Makes us sound ancient. And I guess we are :(

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:
    I forgot to say that most of the really good English speakers I've met have got good through TV - watching cartoons when they were young, then shows like Friends as they were growing up. It's basically just absorbing language content in something you really enjoy, and so you're invested it trying to figure out the meaning until it becomes so common that it's just an intuitive understanding. I think more and more people are learning via online gaming, e.g. PUBG.

    Oh yes. No one really learns English or for that matter any language using the traditional methods anymore. But, Duolingo is great for this purpose. My friends have cracked exams using Duolingo for foreign languages. As for me, I did most of my learning from English songs, atleast the accent. But, recently trying to do recording for a TTS AI, I realised speaking in American accent is a different beast than singing. Had a tough time pronouncing "a reverse flowing river or ravine is ravishing" :lol:

    this is the zenith.. is this the zenith?

    Sorry, bchot. You will have to explain that reference to poor old me

    nothing to explain. just a practice for different sounding THs.. i don't know why i typed it. thought it was another tongue twister, but it is not so hard to say.. this one is better

    she sells the seashells .. =)

    Yah seashells was part of the dataset. River, flowers, etc. were the hard ones to pronounce for me

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @ralf said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't wanna offend you or Brits in general. I just meant that I heard Scandinavian schools are known to teach their kids 2-3 languages including Latin, Spanish, etc. as a part of their curriculum. It's news to me that even British schools do that, which is good.

    As I alluded to in the other post, I think a lot of it comes down to consumption of media.

    In France and Germany, most movies and TV shows are dubbed into their language, but for most of the smaller countries it's not worth the cost of doing that for a relatively small audience and so shows are just broadcast in their original language, which is often English. So you get kids just watching cartoons for hours on end, and learn in much the same way as an English kid would get half their language exposure. I think that's why countries with smallish populations are disproportionally better at other languages, because they've always been exposed to multiple languages since very young ages, even if they only actually need to speak one at home or school.

    But yeah, Brits in general don't have that. Everything is in English and there's no reason to learn anything else, and so people just don't care enough to put in the time unless they happen to particularly like languages. Most people just do the minimum required to pass the exam at school and then never use it again.

    Even for me - I did 6 years of French and 5 of Latin, and I'm only slightly better at French than the other languages because I also used to read the newspaper and French novels for fun. But as an adult, I didn't travel to France very often, so didn't practice much and so over time my "French muscle" has withered away.

    Actually, I remember one funny experience asking for a can of Coke in French in Brussels (which is French and Flemish speaking). Obviously he thought my French accent was so bad, he thought I must be Flemish and replied in Flemish. It was similar enough to German that I understood what he said and in the moment didn't really occur to me that it wasn't German, so I just replied to him in German and left. It was only a couple of minutes later that I realised what a weird interaction that'd been.

    Oh yah, I somehow forget that Taiwan, as a country also speaks Chinese variants. I was curious to know if any Southeast Asian countries have specific areas inhabited by Chinese maybe where Chinese is more popular than the country's native language and culture. You know, kinda like how China Town exists in some countries.

    Hard to say. But certainly most ethnic groups everywhere tend to clump together when they're expats, just because life is easier speaking your own language to people with a similar mindset and world view of things. So, sure, I'd imagine there'd be Chinatowns everywhere you get many Chinese people, just as you get Irish bars all over the world wherever there's a group of Irish expats. Traditionally, a lot of expat neighbourhoods form due to the proximity to an authentic restaurant where they can enjoy their favourite foods that they might otherwise not have eaten for years.

    I came to know about Thai Chinese descendants from the movie - How To Make Millions Before Grandma Dies. It's a good movie, but, Thai ads are brilliant

    I've never seen it but it sounds fun.

    Yah, that makes sense cause we were the fortunate ones. English movies were not dubbed on Tv here in India when I was a child. Moreover, subtitles weren't available. So, somewhere it did help me. The same happened with cartoons on Cartoon Network. So, we subconsciously were learning English due to lack of options.
    And yes, the observation of expats clustering around authentic restaurants pertaining to their culture too makes sense.
    BTW, whe you have time, just go trhough some Thai ads. They are the perfect mixture of extreme creativity and awesome comedy

    my wife is thai. she says thailand is losing its authenticity from too many white people moving and marrying and such.. on TV most successful actors and hosts/personalities are half-breeds. thailand is said to have healthcare one of the top in the world due to influx of whites.

    i like thai city names: BANG-COCK, PHUCK-IT..

    Lol! Phuket, the way it's pronounced is far from what you have given, but Bangkok seems like a prank someone played on Thailand, esp..given it's a tourist destination for mostly English speakers.

    hehe i made fun to/at my wife years ago saying "i bang cock, 1 dorra". =)

    Lol! And how did she respond to that? :lol:

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