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2025 Black Friday / Cyber Monday: FLASH SALE & MEGATHREAD - "The Trade War"

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  • I received a message from HOST-C.

    A Look Back at 2025 and the Road Ahead

    Dear customers,

    As many of you know, we entered 2025 with an ambitious list of improvements we wanted to deliver. Unfortunately, many of these plans did not materialize. Over the past few days, I took the time to analyze why.

    The conclusion was straightforward: too much of our time was consumed by daily abuse cases, fake accounts, and operational distractions, leaving little room for the larger and more complicated projects we committed to.
    And let’s be honest — 2025’s geopolitical and economic chaos did not help either. 🙂

    For 2026, this will change.


    1. Zero tolerance for fake accounts


    We have repeatedly asked customers to update their profiles with real information. Some complied, many ignored the request.

    To protect our platform and eliminate wasted time, we will enforce a 0-tolerance policy for fake accounts starting immediately.

    Additionally:

    → We will tighten our fraud-protection rules.

    After more than 12 months of operating our automated fraud-detection system, we can confirm its accuracy:


    * 9 out of 10 flagged orders were indeed abusive

    * Orders manually approved just 1% above the fraud threshold turned abusive 9 out of 10 times


    Therefore:

    → Borderline and suspicious orders will no longer be manually approved.

    → Fraud screening will be stricter and strictly enforced.

    The TOS will be updated shortly.


    2. Product naming issues & the $6 upgrade situation


    We acknowledge that some product naming and upgrade communications in 2024–2025 caused confusion — some of it chaotic:


    * The Pioneer 5TB LET/LES editions created ambiguity (now corrected).

    * The upgrade from E5-V4 → Scale Gen1 is still misunderstood by some customers as an upgrade to Gen2.


    In practice:


    * Scale Gen1 severely underperformed

    * It was retired quickly

    * Impacted customers were temporarily moved to Scale Gen2


    This created a fairness issue:

    Some customers paid $6 for an upgrade that did not provide long-term value, ending up on Scale Gen2, while others paid higher prices for native E5-V4 → Scale Gen2 plans.

    To restore fairness and consistency:

    → All affected customers who paid the upgrade from E5-V4 to Scale Gen1 will receive a full $6 refund as account credit.

    → Services will be migrated back to their initial E5-V4 platform until final decommissioning.

    → This is mostly the case for the Pioneer 5TB and Nimitz 10TB plans.

    This takes effect immediately as of 04-12-2025.

    This corrects the imbalance, and no one loses anything.
    This was one of the largest operational mistakes of 2024–2025, and we have learned from it.


    3. Abuse of promotional products & transfer restrictions


    A large portion of platform abuse occurred on promotional products — often transferred repeatedly between users.
    Some services changed owners five or more times in just a few months, and nearly every time ended up abused.

    As it turns out, our initial wish to be flexible in this area came back to bite us.
    Sometimes it is better to be more rigid, and flexibility should not be present in all parts of the service.

    This is also why we did not participate in this year’s LET and LES Black Friday sales.

    Until we develop a reliable anti-abuse formula, participating is a waste of resources and creates discomfort for existing customers.

    Starting today, 04-12-2025:

    → Promotional products will no longer be transferable.

    For list-priced (non-promo) services:

    → Transfers remain allowed but must be requested via support ticket.

    There will be no other exceptions.

    The TOS will be updated accordingly.


    4. End-of-life for E5-V4 services


    As previously announced, all E5-V4 services will be decommissioned by the end of 2025, with two exceptions:


    * Pioneer 5TB

    * Nimitz 10TB


    There will be no other exceptions.

    The E5-V4 platform is outdated, unstable, difficult to debug, and performs poorly on the 2025 hypervisor stack. It is no longer viable to maintain.


    5. Looking ahead to 2026


    2026 is just around the corner and, while I could say much more, I will keep it simple:

    → More attention to detail

    → Improved stability

    → Increased performance

    We will roll out additional storage options using Hardware RAID10, correct mistakes of past years, bring new features, and focus on quality over all other aspects.

    For those who stay with us: thank you, and a big hug.

    Your support and patience mean a lot to us.

    Happy holidays, and best wishes from our entire team.

    HOST-C

  • Hello it's Friday any dealz?

    Thanked by 3vadiheg tux FAT32
  • something about @DediRock and 2 for $10!?!

  • x1archx1arch Member
    edited December 2025

    @default said:
    I received a message from HOST-C.

    A Look Back at 2025 and the Road Ahead

    Dear customers,

    As many of you know, we entered 2025 with an ambitious list of improvements we wanted to deliver. Unfortunately, many of these plans did not materialize. Over the past few days, I took the time to analyze why.

    The conclusion was straightforward: too much of our time was consumed by daily abuse cases, fake accounts, and operational distractions, leaving little room for the larger and more complicated projects we committed to.
    And let’s be honest — 2025’s geopolitical and economic chaos did not help either. 🙂

    For 2026, this will change.


    1. Zero tolerance for fake accounts


    We have repeatedly asked customers to update their profiles with real information. Some complied, many ignored the request.

    To protect our platform and eliminate wasted time, we will enforce a 0-tolerance policy for fake accounts starting immediately.

    Additionally:

    → We will tighten our fraud-protection rules.

    After more than 12 months of operating our automated fraud-detection system, we can confirm its accuracy:


    * 9 out of 10 flagged orders were indeed abusive

    * Orders manually approved just 1% above the fraud threshold turned abusive 9 out of 10 times


    Therefore:

    → Borderline and suspicious orders will no longer be manually approved.

    → Fraud screening will be stricter and strictly enforced.

    The TOS will be updated shortly.


    2. Product naming issues & the $6 upgrade situation


    We acknowledge that some product naming and upgrade communications in 2024–2025 caused confusion — some of it chaotic:


    * The Pioneer 5TB LET/LES editions created ambiguity (now corrected).

    * The upgrade from E5-V4 → Scale Gen1 is still misunderstood by some customers as an upgrade to Gen2.


    In practice:


    * Scale Gen1 severely underperformed

    * It was retired quickly

    * Impacted customers were temporarily moved to Scale Gen2


    This created a fairness issue:

    Some customers paid $6 for an upgrade that did not provide long-term value, ending up on Scale Gen2, while others paid higher prices for native E5-V4 → Scale Gen2 plans.

    To restore fairness and consistency:

    → All affected customers who paid the upgrade from E5-V4 to Scale Gen1 will receive a full $6 refund as account credit.

    → Services will be migrated back to their initial E5-V4 platform until final decommissioning.

    → This is mostly the case for the Pioneer 5TB and Nimitz 10TB plans.

    This takes effect immediately as of 04-12-2025.

    This corrects the imbalance, and no one loses anything.
    This was one of the largest operational mistakes of 2024–2025, and we have learned from it.


    3. Abuse of promotional products & transfer restrictions


    A large portion of platform abuse occurred on promotional products — often transferred repeatedly between users.
    Some services changed owners five or more times in just a few months, and nearly every time ended up abused.

    As it turns out, our initial wish to be flexible in this area came back to bite us.
    Sometimes it is better to be more rigid, and flexibility should not be present in all parts of the service.

    This is also why we did not participate in this year’s LET and LES Black Friday sales.

    Until we develop a reliable anti-abuse formula, participating is a waste of resources and creates discomfort for existing customers.

    Starting today, 04-12-2025:

    → Promotional products will no longer be transferable.

    For list-priced (non-promo) services:

    → Transfers remain allowed but must be requested via support ticket.

    There will be no other exceptions.

    The TOS will be updated accordingly.


    4. End-of-life for E5-V4 services


    As previously announced, all E5-V4 services will be decommissioned by the end of 2025, with two exceptions:


    * Pioneer 5TB

    * Nimitz 10TB


    There will be no other exceptions.

    The E5-V4 platform is outdated, unstable, difficult to debug, and performs poorly on the 2025 hypervisor stack. It is no longer viable to maintain.


    5. Looking ahead to 2026


    2026 is just around the corner and, while I could say much more, I will keep it simple:

    → More attention to detail

    → Improved stability

    → Increased performance

    We will roll out additional storage options using Hardware RAID10, correct mistakes of past years, bring new features, and focus on quality over all other aspects.

    For those who stay with us: thank you, and a big hug.

    Your support and patience mean a lot to us.

    Happy holidays, and best wishes from our entire team.

    HOST-C

    @host_c is it affect old services? Or only for the new one?

    I don't understand, what a you talking about? Every transfer it's +$5 for company. For nothing. The VPS has data monthly transfer limit, which abuse are you talking about?

  • Happy fumo friday!!!!

  • lets go 700!

  • All the deals!?

  • @AlteredParadox said:
    All the deals!?

    Morning, we missed the host-c JabJab deal :D

    Thanked by 2AlteredParadox tux
  • @smallpancakes said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    All the deals!?

    Morning, we missed the host-c JabJab deal :D

    i know! depressing :(

    Thanked by 1smallpancakes
  • was actually just going through all my host-c boxes and found one that's still on e5, gotta get that upgraded! :smiley:

  • İ missed the deal :(

    Thanked by 1admax
  • @nghialele said:

    Happy fumo friday!!!!

    fumo fumo ᗜˬᗜ

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • Happy CYBERFRIDAY everyone!! <3

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @yoursunny said:

    @Hassan said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @Hassan said:
    any special requests?

    We currently have 1C1G100G $17/year, in TPA01-epyck01 node.
    We’d like 512MB extra RAM for $1/year extra price.
    Would you do it?

    Your wish is my command.

    LIMITED STOCK CYBER MONDAY HIDDEN DEAL

    2025LETBF-1.51G1C100G
    1.5GB RAM
    100GB NVMe
    1 vCPU EPYC 7742
    3TB BW/yr

    $17/yr

    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-1.51G1C100G?deal_code=LETMEGA1.5G100G

    We need an upgrade of the existing machine, not generating a new machine.
    Please apply to Invoice inv::rguj1kd37i thanks.

    After some haggling and poking, we got the upgrade, even without price increase.
    We asked for this modest upgrade because Seafile has been struggling with 1GB RAM when the mobile app uploads a bulk of photos, but a bit of extra RAM should help.
    We don't ask for "double" unnecessarily.
    Subsequently, the cancellation & migration plan has been canceled, and the renewal invoice has been paid up to 2026-12-10.

    Hostodo please don't deadpool.
    Seafile contains our most precious data.

    It's been 4 days and the DartNode machine is still not working - its IP address is not announced in BGP.
    Given we have cancelled the Seafile migration plan, what shall we do with the irritating DartNode?

    Thanked by 2JohnnySac FAT32
  • @x1arch said:

    @default said:
    I received a message from HOST-C.

    A Look Back at 2025 and the Road Ahead

    Dear customers,

    As many of you know, we entered 2025 with an ambitious list of improvements we wanted to deliver. Unfortunately, many of these plans did not materialize. Over the past few days, I took the time to analyze why.

    The conclusion was straightforward: too much of our time was consumed by daily abuse cases, fake accounts, and operational distractions, leaving little room for the larger and more complicated projects we committed to.
    And let’s be honest — 2025’s geopolitical and economic chaos did not help either. 🙂

    For 2026, this will change.


    1. Zero tolerance for fake accounts


    We have repeatedly asked customers to update their profiles with real information. Some complied, many ignored the request.

    To protect our platform and eliminate wasted time, we will enforce a 0-tolerance policy for fake accounts starting immediately.

    Additionally:

    → We will tighten our fraud-protection rules.

    After more than 12 months of operating our automated fraud-detection system, we can confirm its accuracy:


    * 9 out of 10 flagged orders were indeed abusive

    * Orders manually approved just 1% above the fraud threshold turned abusive 9 out of 10 times


    Therefore:

    → Borderline and suspicious orders will no longer be manually approved.

    → Fraud screening will be stricter and strictly enforced.

    The TOS will be updated shortly.


    2. Product naming issues & the $6 upgrade situation


    We acknowledge that some product naming and upgrade communications in 2024–2025 caused confusion — some of it chaotic:


    * The Pioneer 5TB LET/LES editions created ambiguity (now corrected).

    * The upgrade from E5-V4 → Scale Gen1 is still misunderstood by some customers as an upgrade to Gen2.


    In practice:


    * Scale Gen1 severely underperformed

    * It was retired quickly

    * Impacted customers were temporarily moved to Scale Gen2


    This created a fairness issue:

    Some customers paid $6 for an upgrade that did not provide long-term value, ending up on Scale Gen2, while others paid higher prices for native E5-V4 → Scale Gen2 plans.

    To restore fairness and consistency:

    → All affected customers who paid the upgrade from E5-V4 to Scale Gen1 will receive a full $6 refund as account credit.

    → Services will be migrated back to their initial E5-V4 platform until final decommissioning.

    → This is mostly the case for the Pioneer 5TB and Nimitz 10TB plans.

    This takes effect immediately as of 04-12-2025.

    This corrects the imbalance, and no one loses anything.
    This was one of the largest operational mistakes of 2024–2025, and we have learned from it.


    3. Abuse of promotional products & transfer restrictions


    A large portion of platform abuse occurred on promotional products — often transferred repeatedly between users.
    Some services changed owners five or more times in just a few months, and nearly every time ended up abused.

    As it turns out, our initial wish to be flexible in this area came back to bite us.
    Sometimes it is better to be more rigid, and flexibility should not be present in all parts of the service.

    This is also why we did not participate in this year’s LET and LES Black Friday sales.

    Until we develop a reliable anti-abuse formula, participating is a waste of resources and creates discomfort for existing customers.

    Starting today, 04-12-2025:

    → Promotional products will no longer be transferable.

    For list-priced (non-promo) services:

    → Transfers remain allowed but must be requested via support ticket.

    There will be no other exceptions.

    The TOS will be updated accordingly.


    4. End-of-life for E5-V4 services


    As previously announced, all E5-V4 services will be decommissioned by the end of 2025, with two exceptions:


    * Pioneer 5TB

    * Nimitz 10TB


    There will be no other exceptions.

    The E5-V4 platform is outdated, unstable, difficult to debug, and performs poorly on the 2025 hypervisor stack. It is no longer viable to maintain.


    5. Looking ahead to 2026


    2026 is just around the corner and, while I could say much more, I will keep it simple:

    → More attention to detail

    → Improved stability

    → Increased performance

    We will roll out additional storage options using Hardware RAID10, correct mistakes of past years, bring new features, and focus on quality over all other aspects.

    For those who stay with us: thank you, and a big hug.

    Your support and patience mean a lot to us.

    Happy holidays, and best wishes from our entire team.

    HOST-C

    @host_c is it affect old services? Or only for the new one?

    I don't understand, what a you talking about? Every transfer it's +$5 for company. For nothing. The VPS has data monthly transfer limit, which abuse are you talking about?

    5$ to transfer to unknown people that may abuse the service, its probably not worth it

    Its probably DMCA infringement, and 5$ profit from transfer just to later get that kind of abuse doesn't really Worth, i guess

  • Where's the deal??

  • ralfralf Member
    edited December 2025

    @host_c said:
    If you wander what FRAUD-line is, this is it:

    Isn't that just a regular FRAU-line around Oktoberfest time?
    (maybe that was the joke, I'm tired and need to go to bed!)

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • HassanHassan Member, Patron Provider

    @Hassan said:

    HOSTODO MEGATHREAD SPECIALS SUMMARY

    1.5GB RAM, 24GB NVMe, 1 Core, 3TB Bandwidth

    $12 / yr | $22 / 2 yrs | $30 / 3 yrs

    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-1.5G?deal_code=LETMEGA1.5k1bMa3F

    4GB RAM, 40GB NVMe, 2 Core, 6TB Bandwidth

    $30 / yr | $60 / 2 yrs | $75 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-4G?deal_code=LETMEGA4X0cuUF

    8GB RAM, 64GB NVMe, 3 Core, 8TB Bandwidth

    $50 / yr | $82 / 2 yrs | $125 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-8G?deal_code=LETMEGA8HVBCrP

    16GB RAM, 120GB NVMe, 4 Core, 10TB Bandwidth

    $90 / yr | $150 / 2 yrs | $225 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-16G?deal_code=LETMEGA16GtLAohr


    AVAILABLE UNTIL TOMORROW NIGHT!

    ALSO : join our giveaway here, it's free! https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/212076/hostodo-black-friday-giveaway-crazy-deals-12-yr-20-yr-limited-qty-vegas-tampa-detroit/p1

  • @Hassan said:

    @Hassan said:

    HOSTODO MEGATHREAD SPECIALS SUMMARY

    1.5GB RAM, 24GB NVMe, 1 Core, 3TB Bandwidth

    $12 / yr | $22 / 2 yrs | $30 / 3 yrs

    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-1.5G?deal_code=LETMEGA1.5k1bMa3F

    4GB RAM, 40GB NVMe, 2 Core, 6TB Bandwidth

    $30 / yr | $60 / 2 yrs | $75 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-4G?deal_code=LETMEGA4X0cuUF

    8GB RAM, 64GB NVMe, 3 Core, 8TB Bandwidth

    $50 / yr | $82 / 2 yrs | $125 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-8G?deal_code=LETMEGA8HVBCrP

    16GB RAM, 120GB NVMe, 4 Core, 10TB Bandwidth

    $90 / yr | $150 / 2 yrs | $225 / 3 yrs
    https://console.hostodo.com/instances/deploy/LV01/2025LETBF-16G?deal_code=LETMEGA16GtLAohr


    AVAILABLE UNTIL TOMORROW NIGHT!

    ALSO : join our giveaway here, it's free! https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/212076/hostodo-black-friday-giveaway-crazy-deals-12-yr-20-yr-limited-qty-vegas-tampa-detroit/p1

    GLWS some of these look quite nice!

  • dealllls

  • Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

    They got a billion orders.

    Still 1% = 1000000 from LET left to provision
    You str in this bucket

    Thanked by 2nghialele ariq01
  • @plumberg said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

    They got a billion orders.

    Still 1% = 1000000 from LET left to provision
    You str in this bucket

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • @AlteredParadox said:
    Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

    Nope. Both the VPS and dedi are offline.

  • Mine is one they're waiting on getting network issues fixed for, evidently. Got a real update tho, so that's cool :smile:

  • edited December 2025

    Got one dedi delievered, other one just moved to "provisioning" status, and keoir was able to get me an update on the vm... so progress being made and actual info given is nice!! Totally get that they're swamped, but a quick update other than "be patient itll work eventually" is awesome to have.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • that said... MOAR DEALS

  • @AlteredParadox said:
    Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

    My VPS isn’t yet

  • @Smigit said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Anybody get their dartnode VM yet? They just posted they're "99% provisioned"

    My VPS isn’t yet

    Same here, sent DM to @keoir but get no reply yet. Do I need to even post in the DartNode thread in order to expedite things? :D

This discussion has been closed.