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For those who use a VPN are you able to sign up to forums which use cloudflare captcha?
user3028938
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Cloudflare seems to block all IPs I try when using a VPN. I am sure these IPs are saturated but I wanted to know if the same is the case for any other VPN IPs and if cloudflare is blanket blocking any datacenter IPs.
So I want to know if it is just because the specific IPs are blocked or there is a blanket block on datacenter IPs.
When I try with the free VPN it just gives the endless page refreshing loop.
If they do actually block all DC ips it is a sad day for privacy on the net since that captcha is pretty much ubiquitous now.
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No, Cloudflare doesn't block all datacenter IP's. This forum is protected by Cloudflare and I'm currently posting this from a Windows remote desktop on a VPS hosted by AdvinServers with a data center IP. I'm also able to login to other sites that use Cloudflare Turnstile.
The mindless scraping for generating training data for the LLMs is leaving website owners with no recourse but to block all data center and VPN IPs. Consequently, scraping has moved on to use residential proxy services. In a few months when those will be blocked too, only websites hosted on localhost will be accessible.
It will probably end up as requiring KYC for every site lol.
I've never had an issue with Cloudflare's captchas. Recaptcha is much worse since it lies to you.
Scraping too fast is DoS and it is criminal
It's what I am doing?
I use lots of cheap providers here as vpn and never had an issue that I noticed or recall.
Maybe it's just you.
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No, i was ranting on some shitty companies, not you. Sorry
People were talking like that in the past, and ironically, they were right.
I would say things will not go into localhost, instead the world will slowly migrate into Tor or some other forms of anonymity. The end for internet is nigh, with the usual reason: human greed.
Lol no chance.
Even in this imaginary world they wanted to it would not handle the infastructure of the whole world using it and to make it work as a streamlined product for the 9-5 Joe and Jane it would have to be much more polished and that means commercialization and regulation so would no longer be Tor, just some distant progeny.
Could you use Warp?
I use protonvpn without any issues.
Depends on what kind of VPN you use. Also, try randomizing your browser fingerprint to prevent them from identifying you and see how many issues you don't have.
There was a GDPR judgement at an Austrian court last year regarding reCaptcha. Quote from the ruling: "Cookies set by the Google service reCAPTCHA are not necessary for the operation of a website, which is why there is no legitimate interest of the complainants, regardless of the fact that the prevention of bot inputs is beneficial for operators of the website. The implementation of reCAPTCHA is not technically necessary for the operation of the website, since it has no influence on the functionality of the website, which is why a legitimate interest must be denied and the consent of the party involved would have had to be obtained."
Cloudflare captcha is not much different from reCaptcha and does the same thing so this should apply as well. In short, both need user consent before being used.
From what I know most website operators who use those use legitimate interest as a legal basis and that's not valid.
Shadowsocks is best. Everything works captchas etc...
if you use python with chromium selenium for automation, yes Cloudflare will block browser but there is a work around by creating profiles and navigating to browser manually then solving captcha on website login etc if required one time then start automation program and launch same browser profile!
if you have rotating public IP which changes every 5 seconds then Cloudflare will block & infinite loop browser check
I am not even using any automation though. I just want to use it for browsing manually, privately and am still met with blocking from cloudflare.
I know it is the IP because if I load without then can register fine.
It doesn't rotate every 5 seconds as far as I know, just when connection is dropped. What would be the point of an ISP rotating an IP every 5 seconds? lol
Sites will mostly load using the ISP IPs but occasionally one of them will be blocked due to that specific IP not due to rotating.
I was wondering, where do most vpn providers source their thousands of IPs they use? Are they just mass buying LET deals?
If so is it not all the same to just use one vps privately from a LET provider? The vpn of course offers much more IP variety if one should be blocked, so you can just use another if that happens, but if your vps IP is blocked on a site when using a vps as a proxy, then you have to buy another vps to use that site.
Connect to your VPN, check your IP address, and then reverse lookup that IP -- it's usually on a network that specializes in high-bandwidth dediservers, such as Datapacket.
most true statement made ever
VPNs don't use LET providers, they use ones that offer high bandwidth dedicated servers like Datapacket/CDN77 or M247.
I take it that is a bad thing?
Does it mean they are all going to be pretty much the same, using the same pools of IPs?
Yes, all VPN providers use the same handful of server providers and the IPs are public knowledge.
To find a VPN's IPs you can just sign up and try all their servers. There are companies that do this, and give Cloudflare the list of IPs.
Then why some other replies here are saying that they have no issues with vpn and using cloudflare?
IP address isn't the only thing Cloudflare looks at
Depends on the VPS / Network you use.
If you go with any NAT provider, prob, not really usable for browsing.
Then what do you suggest?