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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited December 2025

    @JohnnySac said:
    Those are some really cool ideas! I'm def looking forward to what you come up with!

    The fabric "tattoo arm sleeves". Ignore the poor photo, will get better sample photos outside in daylight and with a proper camera and won't be wearing my 'sitting around the house' attire.

    (I have no tattoos)

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited December 2025

    ALSO WE ARE REVAMPING OUR VPN SERVICE!!!!

    Suggest what protocols we should support.

    I think, but am not 100% yet, we will do something similar to what we are doing now where you select what POP you want individually. Right now, you can generate X number of Wireguard configs per POP.

    What I want to do is do that, but allow you to also choose different protocols per POP. Maybe (For example), Amsterdam is closest to you. You want a Wireguard config for speed, but want to have a config with V2Ray, or Hysteria, or something different. Ideally you could generate different configs for within the same POP to meet your needs.

    We have 10 POPs now ( See: https://as40663.net) and okay coverage of the US and Europe. We want to offer a good VPN service that extends beyond a relatively stock Wireguard setup as we now offer.

    What features, within reason, would you like to see?

    Multi-hop options? (Either user configurable entry / exit points, or choose between pre-set multi-hop options?), enhanced DPI resistance options? (We did register DPIVPN.com today... )

    How important is IPv6 to you for normal browsing? We don't support IPv6 on Wireguard at the moment and have only had a couple people ask about it. Is it something you care about?

  • Is your PA location at the Tierpoint Valley Forge datacenter?

  • @MannDude said:

    ALSO WE ARE REVAMPING OUR VPN SERVICE!!!!

    Suggest what protocols we should support.

    I think, but am not 100% yet, we will do something similar to what we are doing now where you select what POP you want individually. Right now, you can generate X number of Wireguard configs per POP.

    What I want to do is do that, but allow you to also choose different protocols per POP. Maybe (For example), Amsterdam is closest to you. You want a Wireguard config for speed, but want to have a config with V2Ray, or Hysteria, or something different. Ideally you could generate different configs for within the same POP to meet your needs.

    We have 10 POPs now ( See: https://as40663.net) and okay coverage of the US and Europe. We want to offer a good VPN service that extends beyond a relatively stock Wireguard setup as we now offer.

    What features, within reason, would you like to see?

    Multi-hop options? (Either user configurable entry / exit points, or choose between pre-set multi-hop options?), enhanced DPI resistance options? (We did register DPIVPN.com today... )

    How important is IPv6 to you for normal browsing? We don't support IPv6 on Wireguard at the moment and have only had a couple people ask about it. Is it something you care about?

    Tbh since most sites still use IPv4 or both IPv4 and IPv6, having IPv6 connectivity hasn't been a problem in any capacity I've encountered. I use incogvpn daily with no issues.

    IPv6 connectivity is only something to consider if we think the future internet is going to be a lot more IPv6-only. At this point in time, I'm in no position of authority to speculate about that.

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    I think v2ray - either VLESS or VMESS with xtls-vision would be pretty helpful in heavy censorship areas.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @ServerBachelor said:
    Is your PA location at the Tierpoint Valley Forge datacenter?

    Yeah. It's downstream of Crunchbits.

    @sh97 said:
    I think v2ray - either VLESS or VMESS with xtls-vision would be pretty helpful in heavy censorship areas.

    I'll likely try to get some people in these areas to test.

    Thanked by 2ServerBachelor zGato
  • @MannDude said:

    ALSO WE ARE REVAMPING OUR VPN SERVICE!!!!

    Suggest what protocols we should support.

    I think, but am not 100% yet, we will do something similar to what we are doing now where you select what POP you want individually. Right now, you can generate X number of Wireguard configs per POP.

    What I want to do is do that, but allow you to also choose different protocols per POP. Maybe (For example), Amsterdam is closest to you. You want a Wireguard config for speed, but want to have a config with V2Ray, or Hysteria, or something different. Ideally you could generate different configs for within the same POP to meet your needs.

    We have 10 POPs now ( See: https://as40663.net) and okay coverage of the US and Europe. We want to offer a good VPN service that extends beyond a relatively stock Wireguard setup as we now offer.

    What features, within reason, would you like to see?

    Multi-hop options? (Either user configurable entry / exit points, or choose between pre-set multi-hop options?), enhanced DPI resistance options? (We did register DPIVPN.com today... )

    How important is IPv6 to you for normal browsing? We don't support IPv6 on Wireguard at the moment and have only had a couple people ask about it. Is it something you care about?

    Been using VPNs for 10+ years and after all this time, some basic essentials are more important than bells and whistles. Personally, an important feature for me would be a reliable kill switch. Aside from that, an easy way to switch the country, with Wireguard app that's more or less covered. On the server (i.e. incognet) side to provide a DNS with adblocking features, would be nice if possible to give a customer an option to customize it (to select what to be blocked).

    Two the most important features tho would be a clear no log policy and the cleanest possible IP reputation. There's nothing more frustrating for a user than to constantly solve captchas while browsing.

    Regarding IPv6, an option to block it would suffice. :)

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @oriend said:
    Been using VPNs for 10+ years and after all this time, some basic essentials are more important than bells and whistles. Personally, an important feature for me would be a reliable kill switch.

    Where would you like this kill switch to be? In the web based UI / control panel (Which for the customer, would be inside WHMCS)? We don't have any plans at this time to develop a mobile app. My theory and point of view has always been there is nothing we can do better or more securely than the official apps created and maintained by those who maintain the protocol (Ex: Wireguard app for Android).

    At the desktop level, a kill switch can be implemented via some scripts. That can be easily done I think and may be more of an "advanced users guide to IncogVPN" knowledge base entry or something.

    On the server (i.e. incognet) side to provide a DNS with adblocking features, would be nice if possible to give a customer an option to customize it (to select what to be blocked).

    I've thought about running several different DNS options. Right now our ad-blocking DNS is just based on https://oisd.nl/ . We check for updates every hour and pull / sync to the DNS cluster. The thought I had was continue to offer that, as well as offer a "Family Safe" version (basically blocking porn and other things families may want to block) and a "Unfiltered" (nothing blocked) version. The IPs of the VPN servers would be whitelisted to query whichever setup there is.

    What did you have in mind? Without you running your own private DNS servers I'm not sure how User A can say, "I want Facebook blocked" and User B use the same setup and want to also reach Facebook. If it's several selectable DNS profiles, that are pre-configured, that we can do and I think is a good idea. :) (Otherwise maybe we can offer incentives for you to run your own in-house private DNS server for just you and we can offer a template or some thorough guides for it)

    Two the most important features tho would be a clear no log policy

    So, with this new system I'd be interested in having some sort of verifiable external audit at the VPN node level. Saying "no logs" and having a 3rd party that is trusted saying, "hey, they're telling the truth" are two different things. Something we'll have to look more into. Then theres the technicality things like, "Is it logging or privacy invasive if I'm able to determine that User XYZ's Wireguard profile is pounding the port 24/7 in a manner that isn't suggestive of normal use?" I'll have to look more into what the big players are doing.

    and the cleanest possible IP reputation. There's nothing more frustrating for a user than to constantly solve captchas while browsing.

    Even clean IPs are often blacklisted just because they're not residential. It's annoying and not something we can really overcome. I'm constantly filling out catpchas and most of the IPs I use on the public facing internet are private, not shared, only used by me. I can't access reddit anymore, and it's probably a good thing, and some other sites are more annoying than others.

    Regarding IPv6, an option to block it would suffice. :)

    It's actually blocked on the Wireguard servers now, just simply as a means of reducing attack or conflict surface. I should write a guide on how to prevent DNS leaks from users who have native IPv6 at home but connect to an IPv4 only Wireguard server so they're not leaking requests to their ISPs.

  • @MannDude said: Wireguard app for Android

    IIRC android has native support for "Always-on VPN" & "Block connections without VPN"

  • @MannDude said: I'll likely try to get some people in these areas to test.

    You don't even have to try, Wireguard won't work in these locations.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited December 2025

    @ShadowLurker said:

    @MannDude said: Wireguard app for Android

    IIRC android has native support for "Always-on VPN" & "Block connections without VPN"

    Yup ;)

    Thanked by 1ShadowLurker
  • @MannDude said:

    @JohnnySac said:

    @MannDude said:

    STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN NOW LIVE

    Looking Glass: https://sh-se-eu.lg.as40663.net/

    Still waiting for the random IP GeoIP databases to do their slow dance of updating from our geofeed.

    Will have new Amsterdam stock by end of the year. Will check existing Bulgaria stock and get more soon.

    That's awesome congrats!!

    Is there a limited introductory 1776 for Stockholm?

    There may be a few 2GB RAM 1 core plans available at $17.76/year in Stockholm now... 👀

    And, if there were a few of those plans and coupons available, then I guess this is what the network would look like:

    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli     
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2025.11.07
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
     Ping & Routing     : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -rt <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC 7402 24-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 1 @ 2794.748 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 29.5 GB (8.1 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 1.9 GB (288.1 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 1.5 GB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 7 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 13
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.17.9-x64v3-xanmod1
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : bbr
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : IncogNet LLC
     ASN                : Unknown
     ASN (IPv4)         : AS40663 IncogNet LLC
     Host               : Incognet LLC
     Location           : Liberty Lake, Washington-WA, United States
     Location (IPv4)    : Stockholm, Stockholm, SE
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server      
    
     ISP:  
    
     Nearest          0.50 ms     0.0%    1436.90 Mbps   1500.05 Mbps   AltusHost B.V. - Stockholm 
    
     Bangalore, IN    177.36 ms   0.0%    1372.49 Mbps   534.00 Mbps    Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore 
     Chennai, IN      FAILED                                                        
     Mumbai, IN       156.20 ms   0.0%    1505.55 Mbps   1624.58 Mbps   Melbicom - Mumbai 
    
     Seattle, US      177.51 ms   N/A     905.06 Mbps    515.65 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA 
     Los Angeles, US  155.07 ms   0.0%    1245.93 Mbps   608.07 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA 
     Dallas, US       125.86 ms   0.0%    1355.79 Mbps   1669.67 Mbps   Hivelocity - Dallas, TX 
     Miami, US        135.46 ms   0.0%    1424.12 Mbps   1626.80 Mbps   Frontier - Miami, FL 
     New York, US     91.72 ms    0.0%    1463.70 Mbps   1513.69 Mbps   GSL Networks - New York, NY 
     Toronto, CA      101.69 ms   0.0%    1399.28 Mbps   875.44 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON 
     Mexico City, MX  178.46 ms   N/A     1169.10 Mbps   509.47 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México 
    
     London, UK       31.23 ms    0.0%    1433.19 Mbps   1527.26 Mbps   VeloxServ Communications - London 
     Amsterdam, NL    20.15 ms    0.0%    1444.95 Mbps   1513.12 Mbps   31173 Services AB - Amsterdam 
     Paris, FR        30.29 ms    0.0%    1431.88 Mbps   1524.99 Mbps   Scaleway - Paris 
     Frankfurt, DE    23.92 ms    0.0%    1407.78 Mbps   1524.89 Mbps   Clouvider Ltd - Frankfurt am Main 
     Warsaw, PL       27.02 ms    0.0%    1413.55 Mbps   1508.33 Mbps   Play - Warszawa 
     Bucharest, RO    61.53 ms    0.0%    1411.32 Mbps   1542.84 Mbps   Digi        
     Moscow, RU       41.41 ms    0.0%    1380.26 Mbps   1526.96 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - Moscow 
    
     Jeddah, SA       96.10 ms    0.0%    1471.57 Mbps   1523.66 Mbps   Saudi Telecom Company 
     Dubai, AE        130.58 ms   N/A     1508.62 Mbps   767.97 Mbps    e& UAE - Dubai 
     Istanbul, TR     59.86 ms    0.0%    1476.89 Mbps   1518.62 Mbps   Turkcell - Istanbul 
     Tehran, IR       63.39 ms    0.0%    1430.58 Mbps   1162.24 Mbps   Irancell - Tehran 
     Cairo, EG        78.05 ms    0.0%    1390.93 Mbps   1426.08 Mbps   Telecom Egypt - Cairo 
    
     Tokyo, JP        274.47 ms   2.7%    793.20 Mbps    273.35 Mbps    fdcservers.net - Tokyo 
     Shanghai, CU-CN  165.04 ms   N/A     1050.07 Mbps   761.59 Mbps    China Unicom 5G - Shanghai 
     Hong Kong, CN    254.96 ms   N/A     1091.28 Mbps   261.54 Mbps    Misaka Network, Inc. - Hong Kong 
     Singapore, SG    168.26 ms   0.0%    1208.84 Mbps   545.41 Mbps    ViewQwest - Singapore 
     Jakarta, ID      196.78 ms   0.0%    1024.14 Mbps   452.21 Mbps    PT Solnet Indonesia - Jakarta 
    
     Sydney, AU       271.77 ms   0.0%    1437.90 Mbps   1013.79 Mbps   Aussie Broadband - Sydney 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 1324.46 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 1119.72 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 51.43 GB
     Total UL Data      : 42.65 GB
     Total Data         : 94.09 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 13 min 47 sec
     System Time        : 27/11/2025 - 07:13:16 GMT
     Total Script Runs  : 509978
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1764226651_2IMILZ_GLOBAL.txt
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    

    And I guess if there were a few of such plans available, then, why, this may just be what the Yabs results would look like:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Nov 27 07:15:08 AM GMT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 22 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7402 24-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2794.748 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 1.9 GiB
    Swap       : 1.5 GiB
    Disk       : 29.5 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
    Kernel     : 6.17.9-x64v3-xanmod1
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : IncogNet LLC
    ASN        : Unknown
    Host       : Incognet LLC
    Location   : Liberty Lake, Washington (WA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 281.20 MB/s  (70.3k) | 1.49 GB/s    (23.2k)
    Write      | 281.94 MB/s  (70.4k) | 1.49 GB/s    (23.4k)
    Total      | 563.14 MB/s (140.7k) | 2.98 GB/s    (46.7k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 1.50 GB/s     (2.9k) | 1.78 GB/s     (1.7k)
    Write      | 1.58 GB/s     (3.0k) | 1.90 GB/s     (1.8k)
    Total      | 3.08 GB/s     (6.0k) | 3.68 GB/s     (3.5k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.63 Gbits/sec  | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 25.8 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 544 Mbits/sec   | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 24.6 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.57 Gbits/sec  | 1.27 Gbits/sec  | 73.0 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.38 Gbits/sec  | 972 Mbits/sec   | 179 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.17 Gbits/sec  | 99.7 Mbits/sec  | 147 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.52 Gbits/sec  | 1.23 Gbits/sec  | 94.0 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.33 Gbits/sec  | 320 Mbits/sec   | 213 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.63 Gbits/sec  | 1.40 Gbits/sec  | 25.7 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 1.39 Gbits/sec  | 24.6 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.56 Gbits/sec  | busy            | 73.7 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.34 Gbits/sec  | 851 Mbits/sec   | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.16 Gbits/sec  | 151 Mbits/sec   | 146 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.53 Gbits/sec  | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 93.7 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.28 Gbits/sec  | 453 Mbits/sec   | 213 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1279                          
    Multi Core      | 1359                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/15256493
    
    YABS completed in 16 min 1 sec
    
    

    If. 👀

    We have some Black Friday Deals going live at 28/11 00:00 that may be more enticing, however. Just offering some very limited / low stock lifetime deals in US (Liberty Lake, Valley Forge) and in Europe (Bulgaria and Sweden). Just the 512MB plans and 2GB plans. In each of those POPs, only 10 lifetime 512MB plans will be available and only 5 of the lifetime 2GB plans will be available... Perfect for personal VPN, DNS, proxy, site hosting, etc.

    sweden needs moar powrrr... AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 9995WX

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @VayVayKa said:

    @MannDude said: I'll likely try to get some people in these areas to test.

    You don't even have to try, Wireguard won't work in these locations.

    It wouldn't be based on Wireguard. While we'll always offer Wireguard, the discussion was about offering other protocols as well.

    I can test them out locally but I can't really mimic living in an oppressive country with heavy internet and mobile data restrictions.

  • @MannDude said:

    @VayVayKa said:

    @MannDude said: I'll likely try to get some people in these areas to test.

    You don't even have to try, Wireguard won't work in these locations.

    It wouldn't be based on Wireguard. While we'll always offer Wireguard, the discussion was about offering other protocols as well.

    I can test them out locally but I can't really mimic living in an oppressive country with heavy internet and mobile data restrictions.

    Could you also add https://amnezia.org/ to the mix to see if it helps in these kinds of locations?

    Thanked by 2MannDude VayVayKa
  • ShadowLurkerShadowLurker Member
    edited December 2025

    Obfuscation methods would be amazing but i believe these would involve work on the client end

    Lightweight WireGuard Obfuscation, v2ray, QUIC

    Thanked by 2MannDude nullnothere
  • @MannDude said:

    @VayVayKa said:

    @MannDude said: I'll likely try to get some people in these areas to test.

    You don't even have to try, Wireguard won't work in these locations.

    It wouldn't be based on Wireguard. While we'll always offer Wireguard, the discussion was about offering other protocols as well.

    I can test them out locally but I can't really mimic living in an oppressive country with heavy internet and mobile data restrictions.

    The other problem is that to bypass censors requires constantly changing IP addresses which would require VPSs outside your network which goes against the whole controlling the network of all products (Though migrated if the obfuscation double hops back into the network).

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • @MannDude said:

    Where would you like this kill switch to be? In the web based UI / control panel (Which for the customer, would be inside WHMCS)? We don't have any plans at this time to develop a mobile app. My theory and point of view has always been there is nothing we can do better or more securely than the official apps created and maintained by those who maintain the protocol (Ex: Wireguard app for Android).

    Nah, app based, for example Android option you showed above. I wasn't sure is a mobile/desktop app planned or not. Network shutdown, if VPN connection dropped.

    I've thought about running several different DNS options. Right now our ad-blocking DNS is just based on https://oisd.nl/ . We check for updates every hour and pull / sync to the DNS cluster. The thought I had was continue to offer that, as well as offer a "Family Safe" version (basically blocking porn and other things families may want to block) and a "Unfiltered" (nothing blocked) version. The IPs of the VPN servers would be whitelisted to query whichever setup there is.

    Pretty much this, but with a bit more granularity if possible. Something like https://controld.com/free-dns, so for example, hagezi as well besides oisd.nl. The idea is to have DNS from the same company as VPN.

    So, with this new system I'd be interested in having some sort of verifiable external audit at the VPN node level. Saying "no logs" and having a 3rd party that is trusted saying, "hey, they're telling the truth" are two different things. Something we'll have to look more into. Then theres the technicality things like, "Is it logging or privacy invasive if I'm able to determine that User XYZ's Wireguard profile is pounding the port 24/7 in a manner that isn't suggestive of normal use?" I'll have to look more into what the big players are doing.

    3rd party audit would be nice, but I'm aware it can be quite expensive, especially for a smaller company.

    Even clean IPs are often blacklisted just because they're not residential. It's annoying and not something we can really overcome. I'm constantly filling out catpchas and most of the IPs I use on the public facing internet are private, not shared, only used by me. I can't access reddit anymore, and it's probably a good thing, and some other sites are more annoying than others.

    True, hence why I said the cleanest possible. I had to stop using mullvad, cause with their IPs things were unusable unfortunately. It's shame, because I really liked their service.

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • @MannDude said:

    ALSO WE ARE REVAMPING OUR VPN SERVICE!!!!

    Suggest what protocols we should support.

    I think, but am not 100% yet, we will do something similar to what we are doing now where you select what POP you want individually. Right now, you can generate X number of Wireguard configs per POP.

    What I want to do is do that, but allow you to also choose different protocols per POP. Maybe (For example), Amsterdam is closest to you. You want a Wireguard config for speed, but want to have a config with V2Ray, or Hysteria, or something different. Ideally you could generate different configs for within the same POP to meet your needs.

    We have 10 POPs now ( See: https://as40663.net) and okay coverage of the US and Europe. We want to offer a good VPN service that extends beyond a relatively stock Wireguard setup as we now offer.

    What features, within reason, would you like to see?

    Multi-hop options? (Either user configurable entry / exit points, or choose between pre-set multi-hop options?), enhanced DPI resistance options? (We did register DPIVPN.com today... )

    How important is IPv6 to you for normal browsing? We don't support IPv6 on Wireguard at the moment and have only had a couple people ask about it. Is it something you care about?

    i got my vpn refunded, after noticing it does not support ipv6. i find it important to have both and its a sign of quality for me as only a few vpn providers support it.

    Thanked by 2MannDude oloke
  • The lack of multi-hop support is the only thing holding me back currently.

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited December 2025

    @iriska said:
    The lack of multi-hop support is the only thing holding me back currently.

    What sort of multi-hop support would you like to see?

    User can:

    • Select Entry Point and Exit Point themselves? This may result in very poor performance depending on user location and the entry / exit options if using our own POPs. (Ex: User in Malaysia chooses Valley Forge, PA as an entry and Stockholm, Sweden as an exit... That would surely be a bad combo for performance with no real benefit for privacy over a different, better multi-hop setup)
    • Select from pre-made multi-hop routes? This may have some options based on speed, with other options maybe better suited for censorship circumvention (Ex: Entry point that your ISP sees could be a common ASN, like Vultr, DigitalOcean, or Hetzner) with the exit IP being one of our VPN POPs.
  • @MannDude said: What sort of multi-hop support would you like to see?

    I would prefer the first option. Currently using Mullvad I usually select NYC->SomewhereEurope or MIA->Paris, based off sea cable routes to optimize inline speed while enhancing plausible deniability (Also good for optimizing CS latency).

    Multi-hop, as I view it, doesn't really effect privacy or anonymity but rather plausible deniability. I like knowing that on paper, it looks as though I used a VPN in Miami, but my actual activities were occurring in say, Sweden.

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  • ChrisMillerChrisMiller Member
    edited December 2025

    Used 1.23TB Yesterday on my IncogNet VPN:

    Reinstalled my GamingPC and re-setup my VPN and then reinstalled everything from Steam and the MS Store.

    If you can't see the image because its on Imgur your country sucks and you need to go to:

    https://incognet.io/wireguard-vpn

    Thanked by 2MannDude sliix
  • Also I need to go back to Asia and Rob @MannDude of one of his shirts again:

    This was me after I fled the country he was in and was leaving the Airport and heading into Kuala Lumpur.

  • I would love to have such a shirt.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @ChrisMiller said:
    Also I need to go back to Asia and Rob @MannDude of one of his shirts again:

    This was me after I fled the country he was in and was leaving the Airport and heading into Kuala Lumpur.

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I would love to have such a shirt.

    I need to get more made! Had planned on a larger batch than I did but then wasn't sure about the tarrif and shipping situation to send stateside.

    Got a local screen printer who does great work.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    Been testing out a multi-hop AmneziaWG setup today. Since I'm in the APAC region, it's going: me <> hosthatch Singapore <> Incognet Amsterdam. I'm about 50ms from Singapore, and from Singapore to Amsterdam is about 150ms. Some light junk packets mixed in but not going heavy on obfuscation at the moment.

    Been streaming YouTube music and general browsing fine. No VPN and I get about 60Mbps down, and about 40Mbps down with the multihop setup.

    Will continue to test this out. Would likely offer non IncogNET entry points over common ports like 443 from random providers and exit over our space.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    Stock Update:

    • New stock just went live in Sofia, Bulgaria.
    • Still good stock in Stockholm, Sweden
    • Limited, almost out of stock in Liberty Lake, WA and Valley Forge, PA
    • No stock in Kansas City, MO and Amsterdam, NL
    • Amsterdam, NL to be restocked, hopefully, by EOY.
    • Kansas City, MO to be restocked when I get someone to put hardware together and ship it.
  • pdxfishbellypdxfishbelly Member
    edited December 2025

    @MannDude said:
    Also going to try be more active in general on it. I have time to shit-post on LET, I should find time to actually participate and promote IncogNET (and our new thing in the works) elsewhere, as well. :)

    Yeah, I think just chatting with ppl on Mastodon will eventually pay dividends as it's a target-rich environment for tech people who are highly skeptical of Big Tech, and also there aren't many other small general/VPN hosts on there at this point. In my experience there since 2017, users tend to really value personal engagement.

    Regarding your VPN service, I wanted to chime in with my 2 cents because my use case is probably different from many others, but I suspect more people may have it going forward.

    I'm a digital nomad who is not living the lifestyle by choice. So my important aspects are:

    • I don't care about multi-hop, multiple exits, or any of that stuff; instead I care about minimum latency (having a POP as close as possible to where I am physically located) ... because my use case has little to do with anonymity and everything to do with using uplink networks I don't trust, 100% of the time
    • I need always-on VPN from my homebase, which is where my 24/7 servers live, because often my uplink is somebody else's network
    • I need VPN for when I'm bouncing around and staying other places with my laptop & phone while the servers stay at homebase, usually I have a travel router with me that acts as VPN client but sometimes my phone will be out on its own
    • Currently I use solutions like Tailscale and ZeroTier for connectivity between homebase and on-the-road, I saw IncogNET offered something that might address this, anyway, addressing it would definitely be useful to some people ... or maybe you could just bake in awareness/support for some of those SDWAN providers (for example, I use Headscale instead of Tailscale's own coordination server...)
    • Despite living in the USA I'm interested in obfuscation because public WiFi is starting to block Wireguard, and one of my occasional use cases is sitting in a parking lot outside a store or at a booth in a restaurant leeching WiFi because I have noplace else to work
  • @MannDude said:

    Stock Update:

    • New stock just went live in Sofia, Bulgaria.
    • Still good stock in Stockholm, Sweden
    • Limited, almost out of stock in Liberty Lake, WA and Valley Forge, PA
    • No stock in Kansas City, MO and Amsterdam, NL
    • Amsterdam, NL to be restocked, hopefully, by EOY.
    • Kansas City, MO to be restocked when I get someone to put hardware together and ship it.

    please full fix implement 1776 o:)

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @MannDude said:

    Stock Update:

    • New stock just went live in Sofia, Bulgaria.
    • Still good stock in Stockholm, Sweden
    • Limited, almost out of stock in Liberty Lake, WA and Valley Forge, PA
    • No stock in Kansas City, MO and Amsterdam, NL
    • Amsterdam, NL to be restocked, hopefully, by EOY.
    • Kansas City, MO to be restocked when I get someone to put hardware together and ship it.

    That's a decent number of locations. Congratulations!

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