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In the event of such an occurrence, which party should be held responsible?
After successfully applying a discount code during purchase, I proceeded to payment but encountered a website malfunction that prevented completion. By the time the site recovered, the promo code had expired. In such cases, does the merchant have an obligation to honor the discounted order for the customer? I'd really like to hear everyone's views, as the merchant claimed the issue was my responsibility—which I find deeply frustrating.
I don't believe any responsible seller would brush off and deceive customers like this.
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No one is obligated to anything. It works both the ways
Such is life and how the flash sales work.
Better to accept it and move on sooner
Hope you find a deal you want.
No, is either the code already used by others or its not your day
So by your logic, merchants have no obligation to ensure their promotions run smoothly?
I was thinking to give more thoughts about this but let me summarise my comment in one word: Cope.
No, they can do whatever they want with their site, in return on "bad customer rep"
They only obligated to you until the form of contract happen, its after payment
That's not an accurate description of the situation. As the screenshot clearly shows, the website crashed due to excessive traffic, but I had already successfully applied the discount code before the crash. There should always be a first-come-first-served rule in such cases.
Actually we are happy if we got it last time
First Come First Serve is when you purchase it, not check the promo has been used or not
Depends but kinda yes. And even then how can you be sure the quantity hasn't been used up despite the error? Based on my experience with a lot of providers, the crash usually only happened after a few orders have gone through (unless their ordering page is very long / slow).
The code is used when you click "Deploy" / "Place Order", not when you click "Apply".
This must be the first time you've attempted to buy something in a flash sale.
So you're indirectly confirming this is the merchant's issue. I might interpret this as a standard for whether a business has ethics.
Not really, server availability is best effort, its your problem to claim it late
So you're back to square one—if the website hadn't crashed, wouldn't the payment have been completed by now?
This is how flash sales work. The first N people to get through the process get the deal. If your connection to the server failed but others succeeded, it's because you were too slow and failed to get there before everyone else. You probably weren't in the first N*100 people by that point.
Let me use your precise verb: Place Order. Yes, it was during the "Place Order" step that the website crashed!
No idea, I cant see the future
So you're twisting the logic here: I applied the discount code and then clicked Place Order— and yes, it was exactly during that "Place Order" step that the website crashed!
Yes that means the order hasn't successfully placed.
This is always how flash sales work.
If you believe you are wronged, then sue.
I told you before, its on first comment
Merchant is only responsible for providing service on receipt of payment. If you had paid, you could expect the merchant to honor. But applying a code to a cart isn’t the same as actually purchasing or being invoiced even. Many times I’ve applied a code and only found out it’s Out of Stock or unusable on the payment screen because they go that fast. Trying to get a mob into bullying a provider to give you a (what I imagine to be an unsustainable) deal isn’t helpful and will only make providers look to engage elsewhere.
So you're essentially saying that consumers should just accept website crashes during the payment process—exactly like how the merchant shifts the blame onto the customers!
Yes, indeed, you are late, if you faster you can place order before they crash
I sympathize with you, but no one is responsible for this kind of thing
Actually crashing the server is good idea when it out of stock, rather than make you pay and the just to get refunded, be grateful
Regarding this argument, I believe I am neither the first nor the last person to encounter it. I appreciate hearing all your perspectives, and I hope others who face similar situations in the future can learn from this discussion.
Since the website crashed during payment and the merchant claims it has nothing to do with them, this can only be seen as unethical conduct rather than a matter of responsibility. So today I've learned another lesson: an unethical merchant isn’t necessarily obligated to take accountability!
Ha, “live and learn.”
Per county law, merchant is required to have enough stock to satisfy reasonable demand.
If the product is out of stock, they must give you a raincheck.
You can then purchase the same product at advertised price, next time it's in stock.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocp/a_z/advertisements.html
Any merchant failing to honor this procedure will be declared a scammer by attorney general.
They'll be blocked from sales in the county.
We hereby praise GreenCloudVPS and HostHatch and VirmAche and iHostART for having enough stock to satisfy demand.
Let's be real. Even if the website doesn't crashed, you wouldn't get it either. This is because there could already be X amounts of order requests before you and although they also crashed while waiting for response - at least the request is processed hence they got it before you.
I thought it reached maximum usage limit since someone used it in one second
There is another possibility: the discount code has a usage limit!
. So even if later users enter the code, it will be invalid. Therefore, the "Valid" status shown in the screenshot is the most direct evidence.