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got a RS 1000 G12 Pro , I don't know what I am going to do with it...
Also, 2 months contract period vs 3 months.
I have a RS 1000 G11 SE NUE MAI25 for somebody to take over if they want.
AMD EPYC™ 9634
4 Cores
DDR5 ECC:
8 GB
512 GB NVMe SSD
Monthly Contract
I am still waiting for 1 core RS with 2GB RAM G12. But I guess it won't happen.
VPS 1000 G12 PRO on stock currently...
4 vCore, KVM technology
8 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
512 GB NVMe (instead of 256 GB)
For 5.75€/month
Is this good deal?
Sold out already
€20/year for whatever would be very nice for an uptime kuma instance.
€12/year - VPS piko G11s BW25
Just refresh the page after every few minutes, it'll be on stock. I got one few minutes ago.
not quite €20, but close:
https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-nano-g11s-6m
actually tempted for whe webhosting PLUS SLA
do you guys know if it can be applied after buying?
i think i can... will skip for now... i'll think whether to get it or not
infomaniak is shit
What does the SLA add?
that's unrealistic! have you seen what electricity costs n germany? have you seen what ip-adresses costs nowadays?
Have you seen how expensive the hardware is getting?
With a deal like this, they would definitely make a loss. Maybe if you never write an mail or contact the support they could make a few bucks profit on that after 5 years
In real life, they have already offered RS 500 G12 with 2 vCore[Dedicated], 4G, 128G @ 4.59 EUR/month, billed every 6 months.
I am asking 1 vCore[Dedicated], 2G, 32-64G Storage @ 50% cost [as it is half the resources and 1/4 the storage if they offer it with 32G NVMe only], billed yearly! That too for limited BF deal!
the problem is not the amount of cores and stuff like that. The fix costs a company have for a virtual machines are the same. no matter if its small or big.
You need a datacenter
you need Aircon in the datacenter
you need a usv in the datacenter
The hardware needs electricity,
You need the hardware and enough spare ressources (in case of hardware failures)
you need the network equipment (switches, routers, transceiver, cables)
you need transit including redundancies
you need to have an ip-address
you need to pay your workers and the side costs like health insurrance salary taxes (dc workers, those who administrate the hardwarenodes, Logistics, Networ operattors, Customer service)
your workers need working equipment (notebooks, safety shoes)
you need an office
you have to pay the taxes (VAT, 19% in germany).
you might have to pay fees for payment (paypal or credit cards fees)
in germany you have aditionally company taxes that very based on where your company is located
and i guess there are more costs than that
if you say 25€/year let us calculate with 24€/year for ease, so 2€ per month.
this makes 1,68€ for the company and 32 cents for the taxes
from this 1,68€ you have to pay all the base stuff i listed. and additional to that you have variable costs based on the sizing of the virtual machine (shares on the cpu, ram, nvme). and in germany you literally have to make some profit, otherwise you get into trouble with the financial authorities.
Do you honestly believe that any provider can make an offers like that on a big scale? offers like that are always a calculated loss. its basically a marketing expense.
If a provider is offering something like that, he is willing to talk a loss on this sale in hope that the customer orders additional products to make some profit on the long run.
Except they already do:
https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-nano-g11s-6m
2 vCore KVM 2 GB RAM 60 GB SSD @ 1.68 EUR/month billed every 6 months
https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-12m
1 vCore KVM 1 GB RAM 30 GB SSD @ 0.84 EUR/month billed annually.
IPv4 included.
I believe they would do similar deals with G12 VPS tomorrow i.e. on 26.11.2025 8AM CET
Regarding points you made, maybe someone with insights can share more details. LET should be full of learned people who deal in server hosting business.
The Piko ist sold out for a reason. you everywhere see people screaming for the piko and complaining that its alway instantly sold out. On something like this its always low quantity. I guarantee you they make a loss on the piko and basically no profit on the nano. The nano will be a loss with the first support request the customer issue.
Piko available: https://www.netcup.com/en/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-iv-bw25
UPDATE: sold out
The fixed costs are fixed the same regardless if they sell an extra one or fifteen additional VPS accounts. Those extra one (or fifteen or one hundred) sales are just extra income to them.
What's the difference between their G11 and G12?
Nano is still there: [Actually usable VM]
https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-nano-g11s-6m
OMG that was fast
the hardware underneath. G12 seems to have newer AMD CPUs than g11
G12: AMD Turin
G11: AMD genoa
yes and no.
Yes they have to pay rent, salary and stuff anyway. But the more they sell, the higher those costs get.
Also They have to organize one IPv4 for every vm. Sure you buy the IPv4 nets in big chunks like /18 or bigger, but still you have to pay like a lot per ip.
Also The more you sell, the more hardware you have to provide means maybe you need more employees , more electricity, more air con, more spare hardware and so on. most of those fix costs grow with each sold vm. there is no scale benefit on most of those.
Which is why plans like RS 500 are only for special days!
Do you think they are at loss that might be 2X of what we pay when selling a VM like piko?
https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-12m
1 vCore KVM 1 GB RAM 30 GB SSD @ 0.84 EUR/month billed annually.
IPv4 included.
The sold out Netcup flash offer for a VPS piko G11s with 1 vCore, 1 GB RAM and 30 GB SSD, for 0.84/month euro, how good a (BF) deal was that?
yes, i think they make a loss on the piko itself. thats why its always instantly sold out. The limit it for a reason.
something like the Piko is a marketinga ction. People talk about the piko, they try to get one whenever possible. the loss they take is basically a marketing invest (and any marketing you do is a financial loss in the beginning)
But they take that loss for the chance of opening the door to you for more profitables sales in the future. If you like the Piko you might buy something else from them if you need something more.
but of course you cant offer something like is in high quantities.