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DediRock.com: non-working VPS, no promised subnets, pressure to close PayPal dispute

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  • @DediRock grow a backbone and stop thanking every single negative post. Stop offering refunds AND free service. These are not the clients you want to be wasting your limited resources on.

  • @DediRock said:

    @emgh said:
    Hello daddyrock can you do BF specials where you include one of those speciality coffees in the order for like first 3 orders?

    I like coffee

    Yo Yo @emgh oh we can def do that :)

    https://onyxcoffeelab.com/

    Great Idea :) I can send you a bag.

    Where do I order the VPS that comes with onyx coffee??? I’m in!

    Thanked by 2emgh DediRock
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mbjones said:

    @DediRock said:

    @emgh said:
    Hello daddyrock can you do BF specials where you include one of those speciality coffees in the order for like first 3 orders?

    I like coffee

    Yo Yo @emgh oh we can def do that :)

    https://onyxcoffeelab.com/

    Great Idea :) I can send you a bag.

    Where do I order the VPS that comes with onyx coffee??? I’m in!

    Told you @DediRock this would be a great sales pitch :D

    And thanks for the offer but unless I win it I’ll just buy my own bag, would feel bad letting you pay for it. Good luck this BF!

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    @DediRock said:

    Well get it right though. Ya I did offer a refund 3 times, and on the 3rd time it wasnt accepted and then 12 hours later we got the chargeback?

    You're lying here, just like you lied to me in our daily correspondence. You didn't offer a refund, you didn't send me a message saying, “Give me your details or I'll refund your money right now.” No, you wrote, “We'll give you a refund, but try this and that and that, and that's how you stalled for time.” Here is a screenshot from November 19, where I ask you directly, “When will you return the money?” And what do you answer me?

    In any case, I'm in no rush. I've created a request, and I don't need to write to you every day asking for money or working servers. You can keep stalling and embarrass yourself in front of everyone here over a small amount of money.

    Despite all my requests to return the money, you did not offer to return the money. You said that you COULD return the money, but you did not return it. You are a fraudster. You sell a service that you cannot provide and then make excuses.

  • Strooong NexusBytes vibes :O

    Thanked by 2DediRock Frameworks
  • @Caztiel said:
    +1 for Danny ... He is always willing to work out on best possible options for his customers. Probably the response he received for this $7/yr Deal was overwhelming & we have seen in the past that it's not easy for providers to deal with such a surge especially with most of the orders coming from MJJ.. But I have see Danny always being patient & respectful in such cases.

    I want to be clear about the MJJ (I saw the comments about MJJ, and I had to look up what that term even meant in this context.). My request for 30 VPS is simple and low-risk.

    I am setting up a distributed mesh network using Wireguard and 3proxy purely for decentralization testing. My requirement for different IPs/ASNs is a technical need to simulate a diverse, real-world network—not to evade detection or hide anything abusive.

    My load profile is stable and minimal, staying around 8% CPU per VPS unit. This activity generates no spam, no DDoS, and zero high-load activity.

    So i am looking for a reliable provider who respects this low-risk, technical use case.

    Is this similar to what they call MJJ here?

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @TimboJones said:
    @DediRock grow a backbone and stop thanking every single negative post. Stop offering refunds AND free service. These are not the clients you want to be wasting your limited resources on.

    This is his gimmick, his backbone is fine.

    @Levi said: Strooong NexusBytes vibes :O

    At least he's not calling everybody fam.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @yabl0ky said:

    @Caztiel said:
    +1 for Danny ... He is always willing to work out on best possible options for his customers. Probably the response he received for this $7/yr Deal was overwhelming & we have seen in the past that it's not easy for providers to deal with such a surge especially with most of the orders coming from MJJ.. But I have see Danny always being patient & respectful in such cases.

    I want to be clear about the MJJ (I saw the comments about MJJ, and I had to look up what that term even meant in this context.). My request for 30 VPS is simple and low-risk.

    I am setting up a distributed mesh network using Wireguard and 3proxy purely for decentralization testing. My requirement for different IPs/ASNs is a technical need to simulate a diverse, real-world network—not to evade detection or hide anything abusive.

    My load profile is stable and minimal, staying around 8% CPU per VPS unit. This activity generates no spam, no DDoS, and zero high-load activity.

    So i am looking for a reliable provider who respects this low-risk, technical use case.

    Is this similar to what they call MJJ here?

    I never called you MJJ... Just read my response again... It was supposed to be in Generic context

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • It seems to me that there is more to this story than meets the eye.

    Multiple subnets to russian customer... Hmm.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @stable_genius said:
    It seems to me that there is more to this story than meets the eye.

    Multiple subnets to russian customer... Hmm.

    I’m not sure how your geopolitical comment is relevant here. I’m not Russian and have zero connection to Russia. Russian is simply a common language used by millions across Eastern Europe and parts of the EU and other countries.

    And to keep things factual: I already explained why I need multiple subnets and posted real load screenshots. This is a clean, low-risk technical use case. I’m saying this because some people here act like €7/yr means the service should barely function, but my load profile costs the provider basically nothing. This isn’t charity or a favor — it’s a normal, profitable bulk-use case for any provider with spare capacity.

    The issue is still straightforward: the provider sold non-existent subnets, delivered broken VPS, and then tried to pressure me into closing a PayPal dispute instead of issuing a proper refund.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited November 2025

    @yabl0ky said:

    @stable_genius said:
    It seems to me that there is more to this story than meets the eye.

    Multiple subnets to russian customer... Hmm.

    I’m not sure how your geopolitical comment is relevant here. I’m not Russian and have zero connection to Russia. Russian is simply a common language used by millions across Eastern Europe and parts of the EU and other countries.

    And to keep things factual: I already explained why I need multiple subnets and posted real load screenshots. This is a clean, low-risk technical use case. I’m saying this because some people here act like €7/yr means the service should barely function, but my load profile costs the provider basically nothing. This isn’t charity or a favor — it’s a normal, profitable bulk-use case for any provider with spare capacity.

    The issue is still straightforward: the provider sold non-existent subnets, delivered broken VPS, and then tried to pressure me into closing a PayPal dispute instead of issuing a proper refund.

    Fair enough, but please note that russian operatives also act exactly like you do.

    As to the €7/yr VPS part, the performance I expect from such a server is that of a reliable 128MB VPS. If I get more than that (as I have always got) then great, if not I'll be happy all the same, no drama.

    Thanked by 2dmax DediRock
  • If @DediRock can give me a Black Friday flash-sale VPS (the kind with ultra-high cost-performance), I will continue to support @DediRock . :D

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @emgh said:

    @DediRock said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    Is the money refunded yet?

    Hey @JoeMerit no not yet, but I have a good feeling it'll all work out soon here. Thank you.

    If you don’t choose the refund option, it’ll escalate into the PayPal dispute system and take weeks.

    Fuck yeah. It'll cost him more, but I like the lesson it sends to the OP. The asshole just had to say yes to the three refund offers instead of opening a dispute out of spite for not delivering his custom request in his timeframe.

    OP, you could have had a refund in under 24 hours most likely if you just asked him in the ticket but now I hope this drags out as long as possible.

    @TimboJones ya its a tough situation. I think ideally he could just close the dispute (so I think it doesn't hurt the PayPal account) and then I just refund right away, and everything would be smooth.

    I think its moving in the right direction.

    Thanks

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:
    @DediRock grow a backbone and stop thanking every single negative post. Stop offering refunds AND free service. These are not the clients you want to be wasting your limited resources on.

    @TimboJones totally tracking, that is one way to go about it, def noted :) thank you.

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @mbjones said:

    @DediRock said:

    @emgh said:
    Hello daddyrock can you do BF specials where you include one of those speciality coffees in the order for like first 3 orders?

    I like coffee

    Yo Yo @emgh oh we can def do that :)

    https://onyxcoffeelab.com/

    Great Idea :) I can send you a bag.

    Where do I order the VPS that comes with onyx coffee??? I’m in!

    hey @mbjones lol its not up yet :) Coffee drinker I take it?

    Thanked by 1mbjones
  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @mbjones said:

    @DediRock said:

    @emgh said:
    Hello daddyrock can you do BF specials where you include one of those speciality coffees in the order for like first 3 orders?

    I like coffee

    Yo Yo @emgh oh we can def do that :)

    https://onyxcoffeelab.com/

    Great Idea :) I can send you a bag.

    Where do I order the VPS that comes with onyx coffee??? I’m in!

    Told you @DediRock this would be a great sales pitch :D

    And thanks for the offer but unless I win it I’ll just buy my own bag, would feel bad letting you pay for it. Good luck this BF!

    Hey @emgh yes its a great sales pitch thank you :) Tracking on that, still getting things set up but its coming along for BF.

    Thank You.

    Thanked by 2emgh mbjones
  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    @DediRock said: @TimboJones ya its a tough situation. I think ideally he could just close the dispute (so I think it doesn't hurt the PayPal account) and then I just refund right away, and everything would be smooth.

    >
    No. I asked you to return the money on November 19. You decided to just waste my time. You don't care about the opportunities I missed because of you over these two weeks, do you? I don't want to harm you or your account. I wrote to you that I wouldn't even create a thread here if you just returned the money, but in response, I heard another bunch of lies. Now I just don't believe you.

    **However, you can log into your PayPal account and click “refund” like all decent sellers do, and the issue will be closed. **

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @stable_genius said: Fair enough, but please note that russian operatives also act exactly like you do.

    >

    To be completely honest, I don't even really understand what you're talking about.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said:

    Well get it right though. Ya I did offer a refund 3 times, and on the 3rd time it wasnt accepted and then 12 hours later we got the chargeback?

    You're lying here, just like you lied to me in our daily correspondence. You didn't offer a refund, you didn't send me a message saying, “Give me your details or I'll refund your money right now.” No, you wrote, “We'll give you a refund, but try this and that and that, and that's how you stalled for time.” Here is a screenshot from November 19, where I ask you directly, “When will you return the money?” And what do you answer me?

    In any case, I'm in no rush. I've created a request, and I don't need to write to you every day asking for money or working servers. You can keep stalling and embarrass yourself in front of everyone here over a small amount of money.

    Despite all my requests to return the money, you did not offer to return the money. You said that you COULD return the money, but you did not return it. You are a fraudster. You sell a service that you cannot provide and then make excuses.

    Hey @yabl0ky ok I understand, however the converstaion carries on, and you say the following:

    I think what's happening here maybe is a simple misunderstanding? I am sure we both work with many different types of people and backgrounds so the communication might not always be clear. I can acknowledge that :)

    Well kindly how about we just do this? I would like to get you refunded, and leave some servers on for you. If you close the dispute (I think the disputes hurt the PayPal account) I can refund you right now? LET can be the witness :)

    Then I think actually me and you can still do business? Hoping for the best.

    Thank You!

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    Bruh this thread keep growing... Free publicity for DR lol

    As they say "any press is good press"

    Thanked by 2Marx DediRock
  • @yabl0ky said:

    @Caztiel said:
    +1 for Danny ... He is always willing to work out on best possible options for his customers. Probably the response he received for this $7/yr Deal was overwhelming & we have seen in the past that it's not easy for providers to deal with such a surge especially with most of the orders coming from MJJ.. But I have see Danny always being patient & respectful in such cases.

    I want to be clear about the MJJ (I saw the comments about MJJ, and I had to look up what that term even meant in this context.). My request for 30 VPS is simple and low-risk.

    I am setting up a distributed mesh network using Wireguard and 3proxy purely for decentralization testing. My requirement for different IPs/ASNs is a technical need to simulate a diverse, real-world network—not to evade detection or hide anything abusive.

    My load profile is stable and minimal, staying around 8% CPU per VPS unit. This activity generates no spam, no DDoS, and zero high-load activity.

    So i am looking for a reliable provider who respects this low-risk, technical use case.

    Is this similar to what they call MJJ here?

    Ordering 30 loss-leader promo $7 VPS wanting special treatment to put each one on a different IPv4 subnet and expecting it to be setup perfectly on first try within your timeframe then immediately chargeback and open a LET thread to bash provider is the definition of MJJ.

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @Levi said:
    Strooong NexusBytes vibes :O

    hey @levi doing my best to make a great biz :) making my adjustments along the way, thanks for the comment.

  • @JohnnySac said: Ordering 30 loss-leader promo $7 VPS wanting special treatment to put each one on a different IPv4 subnet and expecting it to be setup perfectly on first try within your timeframe then immediately chargeback and open a LET thread to bash provider is the definition of MJJ.

    >

    I saw an offer on the forum with specific terms. I asked the seller upfront if they could provide at least 4 distinct IPv4 subnets across the batch. They agreed.
    They didn’t just miss the deadline, take forever to set things up, or run into "technical issues" -they flat-out didn’t deliver.
    They "gave" me access three times, but none of the instances worked at all.
    Where I’m from that’s called fraud.
    Let’s see how that plays out with PayPal. As far as I know, this company can’t get away with claiming the service was "cheap, so we don’t have to actually provide it."
    But hey - I sincerely hope you personally get to enjoy DediRock’s "service" more often.

    Thanked by 2zed DediRock
  • @JohnFilch123 said:
    If paypal dispute is already open, there should be an option for a provider to refund within that dispute and the dispute will be automatically closed. This is how I remember it but I dealt with this many years ago, paypal may have changed something.

    Provided it has not changed, I do not really understand why OP needs to close the dispute, sounds like a gamble to me.

    Yes, I understand that opening a dispute is a matter of last resort but it is open already, so closing it now means it will not be possible to re-open it again, so risky.

    Providers are penalised if the have any disputes against them

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @barbarza said: Providers are penalised if the have any disputes against them

    Yes, yes I understand. What I do not understand is why it is not possible to refund within that dispute.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @barbarza said: Providers are penalised if the have any disputes against them

    Yes, yes I understand. What I do not understand is why it is not possible to refund within that dispute.

    Because it would still then count as a dispute and the provider would be penalised.

  • @barbarza said: Because it would still then count as a dispute and the provider would be penalised.

    I am not sure about it. The record of this dispute has already been created. I believe if a provider resolves it faster then it is better than leaving it to PP to decide. I may be wrong though, just my gut feeling.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • Matthew18_Matthew18_ Member, Patron Provider

    @JohnFilch123 said: What I do not understand is why it is not possible to refund within that dispute.

    It is possible, before it escalates to it being handled by PayPal.
    Just to be clear, the escalation is normally asked by the provider when they do not agree in providing the refund. Unless something changed now?

    @barbarza said: Because it would still then count as a dispute and the provider would be penalised.

    This is wrong, if its refunded before its escalated to PayPal its just settled out as a normal refund.

  • @Matthew18_ said: It is possible

    Exactly my point. However, for some reason AFAIK it has not been made.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • nonocebnonoceb Member
    edited November 2025

    Providers are penalised if the have any disputes against them

    Just if this happens often. For paypal side, it's expensive to solve dispute => too much disputes from seller, close the business then no paypal for the seller blacklisted.

    Very simple thing : Do what you said. I was proposed a refund, i accepted the refund to delete my 2 droplets at anytime : No refund despite written promises. Words are worthless, even if the guy is nice and cheerful.

    Those who talk about malicious gossip have a working server! B)

    Thanked by 2yabl0ky DediRock
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