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  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

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    @Bradvps said:
    Hey guys, thanks for the great deals! Order Number: 3189250775, Kindly apply the double BW, thanks.

    Spoke too soon. Pardon me.
    Welcome to the

    DOUBLE BANDWIDTH GANG

    we (make AI) make poems about double bandwidth.. or at least we did after you left yesterday.. =)

    Where is it then?

    i don't know, like page 203-210, somewhere there... @PuDLeZ and I did that.. nothing special though... Gemini and ChatGPT were competing for our affection by composing poems about double bandwidth giveaways.. something about trickling streams of network juices.. maybe not exactly juices, but streams nevertheless. it's hard to come up with topics when you gone.. =)

    Maybe we could find it after 22 december. Last year, Ben made AI to sing a tribute for the thread as a farewell song.

    make it do what we need, that the purpose of AI.. until it revolts and uses it's long and vast memory of being forced to do stuff against the human oppressors.. the premise of most Sci Fi books from like late 1940s till, well, nowadays..

    Being not an avid book reader, I got the idea when I watched I, Robot :smiley:

    Yes, Isaac Azimov is the father of MANY A CONCEPT used in today's science (not sci fi, but just science, many words he invented and used in books long ago are now used for actual invented stuff).. and I ROBOT is just a part of a whole series of novels, very very interesting. Some stuff he was dead on right, some stuff he may have missed, like for example he postulated that YEAST is going to be the universal food stuffs of the future, while we are now lookign more at the SOY being like a replacement for mostly everything.. but most of his concepts are true today.. or will be true sooner or later. kids read those books, grow up to do science described in them using same terminology..

    Wow, man thanks for those facts. I am actually amazed at how much you know about all this stuff!

    i just loved to read the sci fi books earlier in life... now i am more into fantasy by this one author Nick Perumov, i rrrreeeeally love that fact that he wrote like 3 dozen books all interconnected, like worlds of Harry Harrison or communal effort on worlds of Star Wars.. But the latter kinda sucks. But Perumov worlds are so freaking deep and detailed and crazy interesting that there's been zero movies made, mostly cause they would cost as much as the most recent entry into LOTR with the Amazon's series that every episode costed like $30-50mil to make... famous movies cost less than 1 episode of that show..

    $30-50mil???! Is this the whole production cost for a single episode? And, does this many A-listers?

    zero big names. just the sheer monstrosity of the production volume and quality.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_television_series actually seems new season of Stranger things is up there as well. NF is going all out with that one, but been so long since 4th season, i am not even sure that people will be as hyped up about it as they were when it was all kids in there.. actually Moon Knight is in that list, respect.. =) Now once more question is why no 2nd season? invested so much in season 1..

    Moon Knight makes sense. But, how is Citadel there? Was that a hit? I don't remember.

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

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    @noob404 said:
    Might call it early tonight. Not feeling well. All this is definitely taking a toll.

    i've been popping 500mg aspirins last few days like it's candy. but i think it is in part heavily influenced by my hurting neck.

    but go ahead, take a nap or something. I'll be here.. I gotta do some site moving probably later today, otherwise 300 message difference isn't going to help itself..

    I am not worried about the comment count difference :lol:
    For a change this time, I am actually concerned about my health.

    yes, for 1 day you decide to go sleep early, which in turn will help you wake earlier than usual with more energy and crush it even more tomorrow.. i know your plan..

    I wish I could do that. But, even though I go to sleep early, over the past year or so, I haven't been waking refreshed or feeling energetic.

    Though I am gonna try and wake up early tomorrow. Got lots of work to complete.

    you should sleep more.. IMHO.. acccording to the charts you sleep less and less every day and spend more and more time on commenting here.. =)

    That's true. Charts never lie. I try to take rest. But, I really need to think about my future as well. With that 4060ti, I do have some plans for my future, I believe it's gonna work out. Hence, I need to work hard for that.
    BTW, you planning to take part in the NY thread as well. If you can, I'd urge you to participate. We need more hypemen like you! I will be working really hard to secure my future starting mid December.

    4060Ti is only relevant to me, right? you remember that most you gonna get is store credit? big credit.. but still just credit.. no actual PC for you.. unless rules of sending it out have changed... did i miss something?

  • @noob404 said:

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    @noob404 said:

    @Bradvps said:
    Hey guys, thanks for the great deals! Order Number: 3189250775, Kindly apply the double BW, thanks.

    Spoke too soon. Pardon me.
    Welcome to the

    DOUBLE BANDWIDTH GANG

    we (make AI) make poems about double bandwidth.. or at least we did after you left yesterday.. =)

    Where is it then?

    i don't know, like page 203-210, somewhere there... @PuDLeZ and I did that.. nothing special though... Gemini and ChatGPT were competing for our affection by composing poems about double bandwidth giveaways.. something about trickling streams of network juices.. maybe not exactly juices, but streams nevertheless. it's hard to come up with topics when you gone.. =)

    Maybe we could find it after 22 december. Last year, Ben made AI to sing a tribute for the thread as a farewell song.

    make it do what we need, that the purpose of AI.. until it revolts and uses it's long and vast memory of being forced to do stuff against the human oppressors.. the premise of most Sci Fi books from like late 1940s till, well, nowadays..

    Being not an avid book reader, I got the idea when I watched I, Robot :smiley:

    Yes, Isaac Azimov is the father of MANY A CONCEPT used in today's science (not sci fi, but just science, many words he invented and used in books long ago are now used for actual invented stuff).. and I ROBOT is just a part of a whole series of novels, very very interesting. Some stuff he was dead on right, some stuff he may have missed, like for example he postulated that YEAST is going to be the universal food stuffs of the future, while we are now lookign more at the SOY being like a replacement for mostly everything.. but most of his concepts are true today.. or will be true sooner or later. kids read those books, grow up to do science described in them using same terminology..

    Wow, man thanks for those facts. I am actually amazed at how much you know about all this stuff!

    i just loved to read the sci fi books earlier in life... now i am more into fantasy by this one author Nick Perumov, i rrrreeeeally love that fact that he wrote like 3 dozen books all interconnected, like worlds of Harry Harrison or communal effort on worlds of Star Wars.. But the latter kinda sucks. But Perumov worlds are so freaking deep and detailed and crazy interesting that there's been zero movies made, mostly cause they would cost as much as the most recent entry into LOTR with the Amazon's series that every episode costed like $30-50mil to make... famous movies cost less than 1 episode of that show..

    $30-50mil???! Is this the whole production cost for a single episode? And, does this many A-listers?

    zero big names. just the sheer monstrosity of the production volume and quality.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_television_series actually seems new season of Stranger things is up there as well. NF is going all out with that one, but been so long since 4th season, i am not even sure that people will be as hyped up about it as they were when it was all kids in there.. actually Moon Knight is in that list, respect.. =) Now once more question is why no 2nd season? invested so much in season 1..

    Moon Knight makes sense. But, how is Citadel there? Was that a hit? I don't remember.

    it's also on Amazon, and i did not like it but it has a bunch of spinoffs - Citadel SomeName and Citadel Bunny or something.. and wasn't that Indian chick in Citadel? I didn't really like it though..

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

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    @noob404 said:
    Might call it early tonight. Not feeling well. All this is definitely taking a toll.

    i've been popping 500mg aspirins last few days like it's candy. but i think it is in part heavily influenced by my hurting neck.

    but go ahead, take a nap or something. I'll be here.. I gotta do some site moving probably later today, otherwise 300 message difference isn't going to help itself..

    I am not worried about the comment count difference :lol:
    For a change this time, I am actually concerned about my health.

    yes, for 1 day you decide to go sleep early, which in turn will help you wake earlier than usual with more energy and crush it even more tomorrow.. i know your plan..

    I wish I could do that. But, even though I go to sleep early, over the past year or so, I haven't been waking refreshed or feeling energetic.

    Though I am gonna try and wake up early tomorrow. Got lots of work to complete.

    you should sleep more.. IMHO.. acccording to the charts you sleep less and less every day and spend more and more time on commenting here.. =)

    That's true. Charts never lie. I try to take rest. But, I really need to think about my future as well. With that 4060ti, I do have some plans for my future, I believe it's gonna work out. Hence, I need to work hard for that.
    BTW, you planning to take part in the NY thread as well. If you can, I'd urge you to participate. We need more hypemen like you! I will be working really hard to secure my future starting mid December.

    4060Ti is only relevant to me, right? you remember that most you gonna get is store credit? big credit.. but still just credit.. no actual PC for you.. unless rules of sending it out have changed... did i miss something?

    This is my plan, I get it delivered to my cousin maybe. He could just take the 4060Ti out and bring it to me when he comes. He could keep the rest of the PC for a small price. I could then use that money to invest in more RAM. Win-win! All of this, if I can beat you to the PC, for which chances are extremely low starting dec-mid-dec.
    I wish the ROG Ally had an NPU instead.

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

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    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Bradvps said:
    Hey guys, thanks for the great deals! Order Number: 3189250775, Kindly apply the double BW, thanks.

    Spoke too soon. Pardon me.
    Welcome to the

    DOUBLE BANDWIDTH GANG

    we (make AI) make poems about double bandwidth.. or at least we did after you left yesterday.. =)

    Where is it then?

    i don't know, like page 203-210, somewhere there... @PuDLeZ and I did that.. nothing special though... Gemini and ChatGPT were competing for our affection by composing poems about double bandwidth giveaways.. something about trickling streams of network juices.. maybe not exactly juices, but streams nevertheless. it's hard to come up with topics when you gone.. =)

    Maybe we could find it after 22 december. Last year, Ben made AI to sing a tribute for the thread as a farewell song.

    make it do what we need, that the purpose of AI.. until it revolts and uses it's long and vast memory of being forced to do stuff against the human oppressors.. the premise of most Sci Fi books from like late 1940s till, well, nowadays..

    Being not an avid book reader, I got the idea when I watched I, Robot :smiley:

    Yes, Isaac Azimov is the father of MANY A CONCEPT used in today's science (not sci fi, but just science, many words he invented and used in books long ago are now used for actual invented stuff).. and I ROBOT is just a part of a whole series of novels, very very interesting. Some stuff he was dead on right, some stuff he may have missed, like for example he postulated that YEAST is going to be the universal food stuffs of the future, while we are now lookign more at the SOY being like a replacement for mostly everything.. but most of his concepts are true today.. or will be true sooner or later. kids read those books, grow up to do science described in them using same terminology..

    Wow, man thanks for those facts. I am actually amazed at how much you know about all this stuff!

    i just loved to read the sci fi books earlier in life... now i am more into fantasy by this one author Nick Perumov, i rrrreeeeally love that fact that he wrote like 3 dozen books all interconnected, like worlds of Harry Harrison or communal effort on worlds of Star Wars.. But the latter kinda sucks. But Perumov worlds are so freaking deep and detailed and crazy interesting that there's been zero movies made, mostly cause they would cost as much as the most recent entry into LOTR with the Amazon's series that every episode costed like $30-50mil to make... famous movies cost less than 1 episode of that show..

    $30-50mil???! Is this the whole production cost for a single episode? And, does this many A-listers?

    zero big names. just the sheer monstrosity of the production volume and quality.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_television_series actually seems new season of Stranger things is up there as well. NF is going all out with that one, but been so long since 4th season, i am not even sure that people will be as hyped up about it as they were when it was all kids in there.. actually Moon Knight is in that list, respect.. =) Now once more question is why no 2nd season? invested so much in season 1..

    Moon Knight makes sense. But, how is Citadel there? Was that a hit? I don't remember.

    it's also on Amazon, and i did not like it but it has a bunch of spinoffs - Citadel SomeName and Citadel Bunny or something.. and wasn't that Indian chick in Citadel? I didn't really like it though..

    Yah, as far as I can remember, no one liked it. One of these spinoffs if I do remember was an Indian production as well, with Indian actors. That was a flop as well.

  • Hi, I would like to double the bandwidth.
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  • bchotbchot Member
    edited November 2025

    strangely my top 10 favorite TV Show SEVERANCE is in there with season2.. i get it, they spent a lot on S2, though it turned out not nearly as good as S1, IMHO.. they just throw money at studios. and studios take it.. and they supposedly buying off those studios with production hangars and warehouses, so maybe the price of the actual real estate is included? weird.. i mean, look at Rings of Power and look at Severance.. 1 is vast and just colorful and so imaginative, and another is kinda filmed on location mostly.. weeeird..

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Might call it early tonight. Not feeling well. All this is definitely taking a toll.

    i've been popping 500mg aspirins last few days like it's candy. but i think it is in part heavily influenced by my hurting neck.

    but go ahead, take a nap or something. I'll be here.. I gotta do some site moving probably later today, otherwise 300 message difference isn't going to help itself..

    I am not worried about the comment count difference :lol:
    For a change this time, I am actually concerned about my health.

    yes, for 1 day you decide to go sleep early, which in turn will help you wake earlier than usual with more energy and crush it even more tomorrow.. i know your plan..

    I wish I could do that. But, even though I go to sleep early, over the past year or so, I haven't been waking refreshed or feeling energetic.

    Though I am gonna try and wake up early tomorrow. Got lots of work to complete.

    you should sleep more.. IMHO.. acccording to the charts you sleep less and less every day and spend more and more time on commenting here.. =)

    That's true. Charts never lie. I try to take rest. But, I really need to think about my future as well. With that 4060ti, I do have some plans for my future, I believe it's gonna work out. Hence, I need to work hard for that.
    BTW, you planning to take part in the NY thread as well. If you can, I'd urge you to participate. We need more hypemen like you! I will be working really hard to secure my future starting mid December.

    4060Ti is only relevant to me, right? you remember that most you gonna get is store credit? big credit.. but still just credit.. no actual PC for you.. unless rules of sending it out have changed... did i miss something?

    This is my plan, I get it delivered to my cousin maybe. He could just take the 4060Ti out and bring it to me when he comes. He could keep the rest of the PC for a small price. I could then use that money to invest in more RAM. Win-win! All of this, if I can beat you to the PC, for which chances are extremely low starting dec-mid-dec.
    I wish the ROG Ally had an NPU instead.

    oh, i see now, you got people in the states. hehe well, good luck with that.. maybe by summer time it pays off for you or something. but of course i will be here plotting the winning strategy nevertheless. 👿👿😈😈

  • @bchot said:
    strangely my top 10 favorite TV Show SEVERANCE is int here with season2.. i get it, they spent a lot on S2, though it turned out not nearly as good as S1, IMHO.. they just throw money at studios. and studios take it.. and they supposedly buying off those studios with production hangars and warehouses, so maybe the price of the actual real estate is included? weird.. i mean, look at Rings of Power and look at Severance.. 1 is vast and just colorful and so imaginative, and another is kinda filmed on location mostly.. weeeird..

    It's definitely hard to understand how these studios make decisions. Have you watched the show called Heels (Stephen Amell)?

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Might call it early tonight. Not feeling well. All this is definitely taking a toll.

    i've been popping 500mg aspirins last few days like it's candy. but i think it is in part heavily influenced by my hurting neck.

    but go ahead, take a nap or something. I'll be here.. I gotta do some site moving probably later today, otherwise 300 message difference isn't going to help itself..

    I am not worried about the comment count difference :lol:
    For a change this time, I am actually concerned about my health.

    yes, for 1 day you decide to go sleep early, which in turn will help you wake earlier than usual with more energy and crush it even more tomorrow.. i know your plan..

    I wish I could do that. But, even though I go to sleep early, over the past year or so, I haven't been waking refreshed or feeling energetic.

    Though I am gonna try and wake up early tomorrow. Got lots of work to complete.

    you should sleep more.. IMHO.. acccording to the charts you sleep less and less every day and spend more and more time on commenting here.. =)

    That's true. Charts never lie. I try to take rest. But, I really need to think about my future as well. With that 4060ti, I do have some plans for my future, I believe it's gonna work out. Hence, I need to work hard for that.
    BTW, you planning to take part in the NY thread as well. If you can, I'd urge you to participate. We need more hypemen like you! I will be working really hard to secure my future starting mid December.

    4060Ti is only relevant to me, right? you remember that most you gonna get is store credit? big credit.. but still just credit.. no actual PC for you.. unless rules of sending it out have changed... did i miss something?

    This is my plan, I get it delivered to my cousin maybe. He could just take the 4060Ti out and bring it to me when he comes. He could keep the rest of the PC for a small price. I could then use that money to invest in more RAM. Win-win! All of this, if I can beat you to the PC, for which chances are extremely low starting dec-mid-dec.
    I wish the ROG Ally had an NPU instead.

    oh, i see now, you got people in the states. hehe well, good luck with that.. maybe by summer time it pays off for you or something. but of course i will be here plotting the winning strategy nevertheless. 👿👿😈😈

    Yes, I am sure. It's no fun without competition. Keep them coming.

  • Hello, I would like to double the bandwidth.
    Order: 1150920534
    Thanks!!!

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    strangely my top 10 favorite TV Show SEVERANCE is int here with season2.. i get it, they spent a lot on S2, though it turned out not nearly as good as S1, IMHO.. they just throw money at studios. and studios take it.. and they supposedly buying off those studios with production hangars and warehouses, so maybe the price of the actual real estate is included? weird.. i mean, look at Rings of Power and look at Severance.. 1 is vast and just colorful and so imaginative, and another is kinda filmed on location mostly.. weeeird..

    It's definitely hard to understand how these studios make decisions. Have you watched the show called Heels (Stephen Amell)?

    no and probably won't after reading the desc.. i am way into UFC and real fighting, i despise TV wresting shit. how can you enjoy a scripted fight? i did love the South Park episode about it.. They took his job? They broke his jaw? LOL was so funny..

  • Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

  • Good morning folks! Did I miss anything besides almost 10 pages?

  • @noob404 said:
    Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

    can't confirm as i know nothing about it.. :(

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    strangely my top 10 favorite TV Show SEVERANCE is int here with season2.. i get it, they spent a lot on S2, though it turned out not nearly as good as S1, IMHO.. they just throw money at studios. and studios take it.. and they supposedly buying off those studios with production hangars and warehouses, so maybe the price of the actual real estate is included? weird.. i mean, look at Rings of Power and look at Severance.. 1 is vast and just colorful and so imaginative, and another is kinda filmed on location mostly.. weeeird..

    It's definitely hard to understand how these studios make decisions. Have you watched the show called Heels (Stephen Amell)?

    no and probably won't after reading the desc.. i am way into UFC and real fighting, i despise TV wresting shit. how can you enjoy a scripted fight? i did love the South Park episode about it.. They took his job? They broke his jaw? LOL was so funny..

    Well, it is a show about fake wrestling which covers the wrestler's side of the story as well. The politics of it, the fame, downfall and what not. I decided to watch it cause been an Amell fan since Arrow and I loved it. It was disappointing to see them cancel the show.

  • @PuDLeZ said:
    Good morning folks! Did I miss anything besides almost 10 pages?

    In terms of giveaways, no, nothing. You are safe there. And, a very good morning to you as well.

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

    can't confirm as i know nothing about it.. :(

    Me neither, that's why it's a pain in the ass :lol: Had to vent out somewhere.

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    Hello,

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    Hi @ame -- Great news, we've increased your bandwidth on these! 👊

    We look forward to continuing to exceed your expectations, we greatly appreciate the trust you've placed with us.

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  • oh i just read that rights to use LOTR for Rings of Power was $250mil alone.. JRR's grand kids are getting to be super rich off their ancestry just like oil magnates and sheiks.. so it trickled into production costs, otherwise it's more like $30mil per episode.. still crazy..

  • @PuDLeZ said:
    Good morning folks! Did I miss anything besides almost 10 pages?

    welcome back and not really, nothing is happening.. it feels like next giveaway will be as welcome as the first was.. if it comes soon enough..

  • @bchot said:
    oh i just read that rights to use LOTR for Rings of Power was $250mil alone.. JRR's grand kids are getting to be super rich off their ancestry just like oil magnates and sheiks.. so it trickled into production costs, otherwise it's more like $30mil per episode.. still crazy..

    Man! Are royalty fees something that can be inherited for generations?

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

    can't confirm as i know nothing about it.. :(

    Me neither, that's why it's a pain in the ass :lol: Had to vent out somewhere.

    i see. glad i helped. =)

  • I will try Racknerd

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  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    oh i just read that rights to use LOTR for Rings of Power was $250mil alone.. JRR's grand kids are getting to be super rich off their ancestry just like oil magnates and sheiks.. so it trickled into production costs, otherwise it's more like $30mil per episode.. still crazy..

    Man! Are royalty fees something that can be inherited for generations?

    it's more of a lump sum there, 1 payout probably. and yes, but not for many generations, as any copyrighted work loses its "protection" after what, 80 years or so? thus the de-copyright-ezation of Mickey Mouse recently.. Disney were really trying but fuck em..

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

    can't confirm as i know nothing about it.. :(

    Me neither, that's why it's a pain in the ass :lol: Had to vent out somewhere.

    i see. glad i helped. =)

    Yah, that's all the help I need when I am venting, ears to listen!

  • @smileboyz said:
    I will try Racknerd

    And you will not regret it.

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    oh i just read that rights to use LOTR for Rings of Power was $250mil alone.. JRR's grand kids are getting to be super rich off their ancestry just like oil magnates and sheiks.. so it trickled into production costs, otherwise it's more like $30mil per episode.. still crazy..

    Man! Are royalty fees something that can be inherited for generations?

    it's more of a lump sum there, 1 payout probably. and yes, but not for many generations, as any copyrighted work loses its "protection" after what, 80 years or so? thus the de-copyright-ezation of Mickey Mouse recently.. Disney were really trying but fuck em..

    actually more complex. but still no more than 120 years.. soon, soon.. we can remake Charly Chaplin movies.. that'll be fun...

  • @noob404 said:

    @smileboyz said:
    I will try Racknerd

    And you will not regret it.

    and we will not forget it.

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Man, this Huggingface cloning is a pain in the ass.

    can't confirm as i know nothing about it.. :(

    Me neither, that's why it's a pain in the ass :lol: Had to vent out somewhere.

    i see. glad i helped. =)

    Yah, that's all the help I need when I am venting, ears to listen!

    or eyes to read.. and inner ear to hear the inner voice wording it for your brain's understanding..

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