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  • @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

  • @BasToTheMax He is the current leader of the

    DOUBLE-BANDWIDTH-GANG

    I aspire to be like him someday.

  • @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

  • BasToTheMaxBasToTheMax Member
    edited November 2025

    @noob404 said: @BasToTheMax He is the current leader of the
    DOUBLE-BANDWIDTH-GANG

    True!

  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

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    Ashburn - prem network!

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  • @TrK said: just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    Wow, that's a lot!
    Why don't they improve the rules of this? This all seems really shady to me, imo.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

    Maybe, maybe not. Who knows.

  • I hope a resource (ram) upgrade GA happens today!
    (and that I win it of course)

    Thanked by 1sh97
  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    Yup, it's absolutely a pain knowing the charges they place on such devices is completely arbitrary, even if you present a genuine invoice.

  • @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

    Maybe, maybe not. Who knows.

    Yeah, it's hard to tell. But the user also does not reply to mentions or Direct Messages

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @TrK said: just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    Wow, that's a lot!
    Why don't they improve the rules of this? This all seems really shady to me, imo.

    they won't that's one of the best revenue stream for any government especially when they have an influx of travellers going out and in, easy monies......

  • @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @TrK said: just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    Wow, that's a lot!
    Why don't they improve the rules of this? This all seems really shady to me, imo.

    they won't that's one of the best revenue stream for any government especially when they have an influx of travellers going out and in, easy monies......

    Yeah that's true. But with enough bad exposure, they might change it?
    If enough people complain... ruining their reputation, they could think about changing it. Or at least making the rules more clear.

  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Can't they go to court at that point?

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

    Maybe, maybe not. Who knows.

    Yeah, it's hard to tell. But the user also does not reply to mentions or Direct Messages

    Oh, I see. Whatever, I am just here for the fun. If these orders are doing good for RackNerd, I am fine with that.

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

    Maybe, maybe not. Who knows.

    Yeah, it's hard to tell. But the user also does not reply to mentions or Direct Messages

    Oh, I see. Whatever, I am just here for the fun. If these orders are doing good for RackNerd, I am fine with that.

    Yeah true. I'm also here for the fun (and to win GAs :lol:)

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Can't they go to court at that point?

    You may appeal the charges and there are various stages for that with the final solution being going to the judiciary. But, nothing is guaranteed. And, in some cases, if your iPhone 15 is seized, by the time, the judiciary has come to a decision, Apple would have launched 18 or 19.

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said: I aspire to be like him someday.

    Or he's a bot? 🤔

    Maybe, maybe not. Who knows.

    Yeah, it's hard to tell. But the user also does not reply to mentions or Direct Messages

    Oh, I see. Whatever, I am just here for the fun. If these orders are doing good for RackNerd, I am fine with that.

    Yeah true. I'm also here for the fun (and to win GAs :lol:)

    I wish to see the flash sales this time. Getting them is extremely tough, no doubt, but, each year, there are some unbelievable deals.

  • @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Can't they go to court at that point?

    You may appeal the charges and there are various stages for that with the final solution being going to the judiciary. But, nothing is guaranteed. And, in some cases, if your iPhone 15 is seized, by the time, the judiciary has come to a decision, Apple would have launched 18 or 19.

    It takes THAT long?! WOW!

  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    well it's in their jurisdiction to charge whatever they can and decide the value based on their own judgement that's the special privilege they have been granted by the laws.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

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    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

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    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Can't they go to court at that point?

    You may appeal the charges and there are various stages for that with the final solution being going to the judiciary. But, nothing is guaranteed. And, in some cases, if your iPhone 15 is seized, by the time, the judiciary has come to a decision, Apple would have launched 18 or 19.

    It takes THAT long?! WOW!

    Yah, pendency of cases in Indian judiciary is pretty high and a random gy's laptop being seized by the customs usually won't take precedence.

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    Can't they go to court at that point?

    You may appeal the charges and there are various stages for that with the final solution being going to the judiciary. But, nothing is guaranteed. And, in some cases, if your iPhone 15 is seized, by the time, the judiciary has come to a decision, Apple would have launched 18 or 19.

    It takes THAT long?! WOW!

    not generally in customs cases the ruling is finalized roughly within 48 months if there are multiple hearings, and if there aren't multiple hearings the ruling can come as fast as 6 months given the pending number of cases isn't astronomical.

  • @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    well it's in their jurisdiction to charge whatever they can and decide the value based on their own judgement that's the special privilege they have been granted by the laws.

    It's high time, the law changed to something that makes it easier for us. Infact, even faceless evaluation can be applied at this time, with AI just analysing the product and getting its price and then preparing the charges.

  • Do you think we could reach 125 pages today?

  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    see it's clearly stated all products valued more than 50K(including product cost and any other fees if listed on the invoice) will be required to pay import duty and/or tax on taxable value. There are times you are required to pay cess as well. God this a mess.

    That makes complete sense if you are planning to sell something once in India. But, if it's something personal, it doesn't make any sense to be declaring it and paying charges on the thing every time you enter the country. What happens to a Rollie owner who visits India eveyer week?

    See it works something like this, once i pay the tax of the item no matter the origin of the said item i can just have it with me along with a export cert if the item is really valuable and they won't charge anything if i return with the same item and show them the export cert, The phones and laptops are exempted and you can carry two laptops and two phones without any issues but everything apart even a projector and camera you will be either required to show export cert or pay the tax if asked by custom officer incharge.

    Oh, thanks for explaining. But, what happens if the person is a frequent traveller to India. What's the validity on the cert?

    The cert includes some sort of serial number or any visible proof of the said item. Unless you are changing the item, there isn't any issue with the number of times you leave or arrive at airport cause everytime the same item will be logged by a customs officer and verified upon arrival.

    Oh alright. That makes sense. It's atleast fortunate that this doesn't apply to laptops and phones.

    Oh that would be a pain if that happened

    it's lotto, it happens but if you are lucky(almost 1/3rd are) you are okay, but if you are marked by them, say goodbye to the item or just paythem whatever they ask sometimes it's around 50-70% of the product value.

    A person I know was charged 120% of the product value on an Asus phone a decade ago. This was 120% because they just decided to ignore the genuine invoice which was available with the product.

    well it's in their jurisdiction to charge whatever they can and decide the value based on their own judgement that's the special privilege they have been granted by the laws.

    It's high time, the law changed to something that makes it easier for us. Infact, even faceless evaluation can be applied at this time, with AI just analysing the product and getting its price and then preparing the charges.

    what we are talking about comes with too much investments and i doubt the bureaubrats will allow any changes in this segment of the laws, sure they can decrease the taxes and import duty but there won't be any chance for it go duty free.

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