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Mass surveillance will be imposed in the EU
What happened today?
Behind closed doors, the Law Enforcement Working Party group approved the revised Danish Chat Control compromise with broad support. While mandatory scanning had officially been dropped, Article 4 of the new text reframes and reintroduces it by obliging providers of e-mail, chat, and messenger services to take "all appropriate risk mitigation measures." This effectively forces providers to scan all messages, including private, end-to-end encrypted content.
The same article outlaws anonymous communication by requiring every citizen to verify their age before accessing a service, kneecapping whistleblowers, journalists, political activists, and people seeking help who depend on anonymity. Article 6 further imposes a digital house arrest and would ban minors from installing software which comes with a significant risk of grooming, such as WhatsApp, Instagram, and online games like Roblox.
What happens next?
The legislation now moves to the Coreper (Committee of Permanent Representations) for approval. Without major political objections, the Council will formally adopt its position. At this stage, both the Council and Commission unite in imposing mass surveillance on all 450 million citizens of the European Union and we enter a rushed trilogue. Unfortunately, while the mandate of the European Parliament does not suffer from the same flaws, the Parliament is traditionally known for giving in.
What now?
We raise our voices. Louder.
Source:
https://mastodon.social/@chatcontrol/115539210365913782
Comments
Any IS, CH, NO dealz?
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The EU is trying to out-do the UK as having the most mass-surveilled populace in the west.
the west knows best... again!
so any software with my chat possiblity
guess the time of watching minecraft lets plays on phub is over
Not gonna happen, because the same will apply to gov workers. And they do not want their chats snooped.
I don't think they will care as long as they're the ones in control of whomever snoops.
Nah, those high ranking goons are replaced periodically as there is always internal power struggle. And this snoop law would allow obtain pretty massive leverage against opponent.
Passing through the EU parliament is not a given yet, so far the opposition grew enough that such proposal didn't get passed. There are several countries where almost all parties oppose such snooping and tight regulations (Czechia for example). Even then it will be still matter of actual enforcement or using non EU services or increased popularity of self hosted options. So I don't think we are done for.
I tend to disagree - they're all together, holding each other's backs so they may not start a domino effect.
eU iS nOt toTalTtaRiAn iT iS jUSt a cONsipracy!!!!!
How do I profit from this?
It's simple. Get into politics, negotiate as many deals as possible in your favour, cover your back along with other politicians, then make sure to apply even more surveillance and censorship so nobody can rebel. Don't forget to support protests, to keep the impression and feeling of freedom.
Unfortunately, the risks have increased in real life. Messengers are used to steal money from people, children are involved in various criminal activities: from stealing money to sabotage, organizing communication between gang members. Game chats are often used for the same purpose.
Therefore, it is necessary to take certain actions, and they will be taken sooner or later, no matter how sad it is for the freedom of the internet.
But transferring such activities to providers is a wrong idea. First of all, who can guarantee that these providers will not use confidential or private information for malicious activities? I think it would be more useful to grant such rights to government organizations, with requirements to be as open as possible. Leave providers free from such activity.
No. You are wrong. They can be “immune” under request.
The east knows best. The EU is becoming China. Great Firewall coming soon to protect citizens from... Murica.
And, yet, some people think EU services are more private than services in the US?
This has never worked. Things that work are illegal.
They say everybody who does not like the EU is russki.
Also, they say that you have to pick a side, either West(Germany) or East(Russia)
I am so fucking tired of this whole propaganda bullshit!
No state can be sovereign/truly independent in 2025?!?
Freedom of speech must be absolute! That means, in a democratic state, hate speech is tolerated by the police
No wonder that fascist parties are so popular!
Mass surveillance is a great danger not in the EU only but in the hole World.
I think they are just regularizing what all governments around the world have always done.
So basically there's nothing new
So, a technologically lagging bloc that is led by unelected bureaucrats addicted to lecturing the rest of the world will soon be mass spying on its own populace.
Ironic.
It seems so.
It is an old report https://surfshark.com/surveillance-cities, but the trend was shown there very well. Also, in combination with AI in cameras, it is hard to hide yourself from Big Brother.
Well, this is precisely the kind of agreement that "isn't an agreement at all." In essence, it's the same mass surveillance package, just with "softer language"...
Forcing all providers to take "appropriate risk mitigation measures" is simply a way to mandate the scanning of everything we say through our devices, even in private.
But if you think about it, if this requirement can only be met by inspecting private messages, then it's mandatory no matter how it's worded...
The part that prohibits anonymity is even more worrying, and that's not the worst of it...
The worst part is that, once this infrastructure exists, governments will extend its use far beyond CSAM (Customer Service Monitoring), as history demonstrates time and again... Once these systems are in place, it's difficult, if not nearly impossible, to reverse them.
In times of war, truth is the very first victim, otherwise there would be no war.
It should be something like that or whatever. Looking into the apocalyptic scenario, the world should go into a total control state. So, maybe it's the way into it. or just one more step.
Where are the Refugee Deals?
When I was educated in high school, I read Marx's definition of imperialism as the highest level of capitalism. Just look at the list of countries with the most debts and think about how they could easily convert it to zero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
What?