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This impacts more than just NeoProtect.
The majority of LowEnd providers with in house filtering or operating as a mitigation company are basically piggybacking on DataPacket's network for pre-filtering and then using whatever application specific or game filters on top of that. Seems like DataPacket isn't going to permit their network to be used in such a manner now.
Will be curious to see how this impacts things on a wider scale.
Does anyone have a direct contact with Gcore? They only reply to one email per day.
Google does it for free if you’re a journalist, but it is very expensive otherwise, yes. Google’s network is however still top notch when it comes to quality, you just have to be willing to pay.
ye I am the Gambling Manager
I don't think DataPacket will stop marketing as DDoS protected. But they learnt hard way that DDoS protection resellers attract too big attacks, hence they will screen new customers better.
I don't think that LowEnd hosts not hosting game servers or other $7/year DDoS magnets will be impacted however.
I know @advinservers sells Neoprotect as an addon. How will it affect them? What is the plan moving forward?
They could move to GSL, I remember when TCPshield got dropped by OVH for the same reason.. I'm surprised Datapacket couldn't handle the DDoS. The irony is strong here.
The reason they won't move to gsl is that they don't have the money to pay gsl without increasing their prices. Gsl has a top notch network but is expensive.
None of them, except Cloudflare, will risk their global capacity to mitigate against a single client.
Add three more zeros and I will hire sharks.
Too much collateral damage
Sadly, not direct. But Gcore is insanely expensive. Around €1500 for 1 Gbit/s commitment (flat), with €3,90/Mbps for every Mbit/s you go above the 1 Gbit/s
If they are able to filter multiple Tbps attack with this price, it's pretty affordable
I wouldn’t exactly call €1,500 for up to 1 Gbit/s “affordable”. While Gcore is certainly capable of filtering several Tbit/s, plenty of bypasses have already been made — and many of them still haven’t been fixed.
But aside from that, how many companies in today’s digital world are actually willing or able to spend €1,500 per month for up to 1 Gbit/s? A handful, maybe?
Bro $7/year isn't an economically feasible for real businesses, you either pay for risk of having DDoS or don't being a risky client, that's it
I’m definitely not talking about $7 per year plans, even I find those too cheap. But €18.000,- per year for 1 Gbit/s sounds absolutely insane.
How much would a company need per month to protect itself against the massive digital threats of today?
7$ take it or leave it
Or double it, and give it to the next company.
I know only a handful of small enterprises who really require DDoS protection, yet alone are targeted by multiple Tbps floods. And the only ones are all within gaming industry. Other businesses at same small scale just aren't targeted by attacks, some rarely are but again not with Aisuru kind of threats, Cloudflare free plan works for them.
@MannDude could you maybe share some insights on how hard or frequently controversial websites are targeted? I am asking because I know for sure "free speech" sometimes pisses people a lot.
Cloudflare’s “free plan” is honestly the worst possible example you could’ve picked. It’s a single protection layer on Layer 7, specifically for ports 80, 443, 8080, and 8443. Anything outside the L7 protocol or those four ports is blocked by default.
What’s being discussed here is Layer 3 and Layer 4 — something Cloudflare only offers at a high enterprise level.
I just don't know anyone else except of gaming industry who gets attacked. It's either gaming industry or some skid doing flood to a website of small shop. Nothing else, no examples I could give you.
Maybe MannDude from Incognet could.
I largely agree but with a major 'but': depends on who that single client is.
Most use Cloudflare, to be honest. (And thankfully)
Even when we had Kiwifarms on the clearnet for a week like a year or two ago, before Worldstream was basically like, "LMAO, no", we only saw a small flood or two.
Seems like most the industry level headaches related to DDoS stem from Discord kids and game server hosting.
White Nationalist? Author about how ___s are the problem of the world? Super far left, everyone is a fascist, anarchy now? All easily protected by Cloudflare.
Minecraft is a bigger DDoS target than MeinKraft.
This just proves my point, thanks a lot.
That's right, if the customer's account is above 500k MRR, they'll probably gladly mitigate it.
Saying that all of this is “easily protected” by Cloudflare is a strange comment to me. Sure, Cloudflare does offer Layer 3 and 4 protection, but not for the smaller companies. Soon, only the big tech players will be able to stay online.
I should've known I am talking to a game host, there were signs I ignored
You really can’t go much lower than that comment, huh?
I am saying what I am saying - gaming industry is full of DDoS and targeted way more than highly controversial websites. Except of businesses like you it's rarely a requirement to withstand multi Tbps attacks (or having any at all).
It's pure fact and I am not the only seeing it - agree or not, but clients like you are are very high risk ones and must pay what DDoS protection services ask for the hassle caused.
Want to have cheaper bandwidth? Become an DDoS protection vendor yourself without reselling prefiltered capacity of others, sign contracts with IXP and Tier 1 ISPs, do PNIs with home ISPs, launch multiple POPs worldwide to prefilter traffic locally. Just do it and show how it must work, become a competitor to greedy Gcore and Cloudflare!