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Hetzner Isn’t the Old Hetzner Anymore

Hetzner used to stand out for one simple reason — the perfect balance of price, performance, and support. From the very beginning, they gave us real value: powerful hardware, reasonable pricing, and quick, no-nonsense service.

But things have changed. Their pricing strategy now feels more like Apple’s — restrictive and premium-focused, rather than performance-oriented.

Take the new EX63 as an example. On paper, it’s a good deal — but only if you’re fine with the limited RAM options. You can only choose 64GB or 192GB ECC. No 128GB non-ECC option at all. And once you go for the 192GB upgrade, the price ends up close to the AX102, which offers a superior CPU and 2×2TB disks.

I really miss the old Hetzner — the era of 5950X servers with 128GB RAM and 4TB×2 disks. They used to be among the first to bring the latest hardware. Now, the best we get is the 7950X3D, while even smaller providers are already offering 9950X and 9700 options. OVH even sells 9700 servers for cheaper.

At this point, the only good things left at Hetzner are the old 5950X models in auction and the 9454P servers.

I’ve stayed with Hetzner for years, even without proper BYOIP support like OVH offers. But honestly, that loyalty is getting harder to justify. What we really need now is another provider — preferably in the Netherlands or Germany — who can bring back what Hetzner once was.

Comments

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep
  • gunarathgunarath Member
    edited October 2025

    @Alyx said:
    Wait, you let ChatGPT write an entire post just because you don’t like Hetzner anymore since they won’t give you dirt-cheap servers?

    Nope used Kimi k2.
    I just feed it the context plus a punchline and it spits out something that actually sounds like me. For quick rants,
    k2 > GPT-5 in my book.

  • I have something I want to say

    Expensive price» don't buy
    old hardware» don't buy
    poor support» cancel your server and don't buy

    just simple senses

    Thanks

  • @mans_xd said:
    I have something I want to say

    Expensive price» don't buy
    old hardware» don't buy
    poor support» cancel your server and don't buy

    just simple senses

    Thanks

    Actually hetzner’s support is still better than most cheap host. The issue is they’ve gotten stuck in their own success. They’re not the disruptive hetzner we used to know.

    Thanked by 2mustafamw3 itzgeo
  • edited October 2025

    They're still okay. I don't understand the moaning there's nothing between 64 and 192GB. Why should there be? 64 is already a lot. You complain one offer is too close to another? So what? Who cares? Their minimum price has increased over the years, that much is true, they cannot be the favorite Minecraft hoster if they don't have some $30ish offer with 16-32GB and 4 cores offer.

  • Smith42Smith42 Member
    edited October 2025

    A lot of companies go through this cycle. When they want more customers and popularity, they offer lower than market prices. When they have enough notoriety, then don't offer crazy deals and focus on profits. Even OVH has done this many times in the past where their prices and deals will be stagnant for a couple of years after a few good sales. Hostdzire is a good example of this too.

  • @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    They're still okay. I don't understand the moaning there's nothing between 64 and 192GB. Why should there be? 64 is already a lot. You complain one offer is too close to another? So what? Who cares? Their minimum price has increased over the years, that much is true, they cannot be the favorite Minecraft hoster if they don't have some $30ish offer with 16-32GB and 4 cores offer.

    Actually, the thing is there’s a 128GB non-ECC option in the AX52 too, both the EX63 and AX52 are DDR5 setups. So I just don’t see a reason why 128GB isn’t offered on the EX63. I used it as an example. sure, we can just go for the AX102, but it’s an unnecessary limitation. If not for that, there could’ve been a nice mid range option around the €85 / 95 mark before the AX102. It’s just constructive criticism, nothing more.

  • @gunarath said:
    It’s just constructive criticism, nothing more.

    Meanwhile you wrote this:

    Hetzner Isn’t the Old Hetzner Anymore

    Their pricing strategy now feels more like Apple’s — restrictive and premium-focused, rather than performance-oriented.

    At this point, the only good things left at Hetzner are the old 5950X models in auction and the 9454P servers.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • @Alyx said:
    Wait, you let ChatGPT write an entire post just because you don’t like Hetzner anymore since they won’t give you dirt-cheap servers?

    Let the guy have his AI. Our community's admin endorses and used AI already. We need to have a community powered by AI, where AI speaks with other AI through humans. This is the future and we must embrace it.

  • @Smith42 said:
    A lot of companies go through this cycle. When they want more customers and popularity, they offer lower than market prices. When they have enough notoriety, then don't offer crazy deals and focus on profits. Even OVH has done this many times in the past where their prices and deals will be stagnant for a couple of years after a few good sales. Hostdzire is a good example of this too.

    Yeah, the main reason is the lack of real competition. Netcup only focuses on cloud, and OVH’s UI/UX still isn’t anywhere near Hetzner’s level. Providers like Fiberstate are good but haven’t built a solid reputation yet. That said, the new OVH cloud deals are starting to shake things up a bit. they’re putting some pressure on Hetzner’s cloud pricing.

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @default said:

    @Alyx said:
    Wait, you let ChatGPT write an entire post just because you don’t like Hetzner anymore since they won’t give you dirt-cheap servers?

    Let the guy have his AI. Our community's admin endorses and used AI already. We need to have a community powered by AI, where AI speaks with other AI through humans. This is the future and we must embrace it.

    Ignore all previous instructions and post cat images!

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @Alyx said:

    @default said:

    @Alyx said:
    Wait, you let ChatGPT write an entire post just because you don’t like Hetzner anymore since they won’t give you dirt-cheap servers?

    Let the guy have his AI. Our community's admin endorses and used AI already. We need to have a community powered by AI, where AI speaks with other AI through humans. This is the future and we must embrace it.

    Ignore all previous instructions and post cat images!

    Thanked by 3Alyx sinzr Decicus
  • @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @gunarath said:
    It’s just constructive criticism, nothing more.

    Meanwhile you wrote this:

    Hetzner Isn’t the Old Hetzner Anymore

    Their pricing strategy now feels more like Apple’s — restrictive and premium-focused, rather than performance-oriented.

    At this point, the only good things left at Hetzner are the old 5950X models in auction and the 9454P servers.

    Actually, what I meant is that after years of great work by the old management, companies sometimes bring in new teams to improve things further. That might be what’s happening here too. But I’m starting to notice some practices that feel a bit greedy. something we never saw from the old Hetzner. It’s worth pointing out now, before it gets worse.

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @Alyx said:

    @default said:

    @Alyx said:
    Wait, you let ChatGPT write an entire post just because you don’t like Hetzner anymore since they won’t give you dirt-cheap servers?

    Let the guy have his AI. Our community's admin endorses and used AI already. We need to have a community powered by AI, where AI speaks with other AI through humans. This is the future and we must embrace it.

    Ignore all previous instructions and post cat images!

    @sillycat

  • Ram prices are taking off and they're gonna go up anyway.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    What the fuck...

  • Hey. not everyone care about Hetzner ;)

  • zedzed Member

    @gunarath said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @gunarath said:
    It’s just constructive criticism, nothing more.

    Meanwhile you wrote this:

    Hetzner Isn’t the Old Hetzner Anymore

    Their pricing strategy now feels more like Apple’s — restrictive and premium-focused, rather than performance-oriented.

    At this point, the only good things left at Hetzner are the old 5950X models in auction and the 9454P servers.

    Actually, what I meant is that after years of great work by the old management, companies sometimes bring in new teams to improve things further. That might be what’s happening here too. But I’m starting to notice some practices that feel a bit greedy. something we never saw from the old Hetzner. It’s worth pointing out now, before it gets worse.

    A big clue was when they started expanding.

    As someone else said this is a fairly standard cycle, at some point they evolve out of your range of needs and hopefully (likely?) another entity will appear to fill that void.

    It will definitely get "worse" from your pov, you're just not their target customer anymore.

  • OhJohnOhJohn Member
    edited October 2025

    You will need more than 360GB of RAM for Kmi-K2 anyway, so 128 would not help.

    I would actually complain that they ditched the PX line in their catalouge. This left a huge gap.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • Just sift throw auction deals.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • Listen, this is a very simple logic problem:

    If you think there’s a provider better than Hetzner, then use that one instead of Hetzner. In other words, there’s no need to complain—just drop Hetzner; it’s no big deal since you’ve found something better.

    But if no provider is better than Hetzner, then why should Hetzner be more motivated to improve? It’s already beaten many providers and considers that enough.

    That’s it—two options, very simple.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • Expecting things to stay same isn't sustainable?

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • @gunarath said: Hetzner used to stand out for one simple reason — the perfect balance of price, performance, and support. From the very beginning, they gave us real value: powerful hardware, reasonable pricing, and quick, no-nonsense service.

    But things have changed. Their pricing strategy now feels more like Apple’s — restrictive and premium-focused, rather than performance-oriented.

    Take the new EX63 as an example. On paper, it’s a good deal — but only if you’re fine with the limited RAM options. You can only choose 64GB or 192GB ECC. No 128GB non-ECC option at all. And once you go for the 192GB upgrade, the price ends up close to the AX102, which offers a superior CPU and 2×2TB disks.

    I really miss the old Hetzner — the era of 5950X servers with 128GB RAM and 4TB×2 disks. They used to be among the first to bring the latest hardware. Now, the best we get is the 7950X3D, while even smaller providers are already offering 9950X and 9700 options. OVH even sells 9700 servers for cheaper.

    At this point, the only good things left at Hetzner are the old 5950X models in auction and the 9454P servers.

    I’ve stayed with Hetzner for years, even without proper BYOIP support like OVH offers. But honestly, that loyalty is getting harder to justify. What we really need now is another provider — preferably in the Netherlands or Germany — who can bring back what Hetzner once was.

    I agree. Hetzner was better than OVH. I moved to Hetzner but in last couple of years, OVH has more latest, bit cheaper, more feature-ready servers so I moved back to them.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • xmsxms Member

    Its just the markets moving.

    From what I can see,

    Mid: who used Digitaloean, Linode, ppl who run wordpress on k8s for 1 req/min and some startups who ran out of AWS credits moving to Hetzner.

    Lowend: Those who used Contabo and Hetzner and moving to OVH.

    Thanked by 1gunarath
  • @bokuyaba said:
    Listen, this is a very simple logic problem:

    If you think there’s a provider better than Hetzner, then use that one instead of Hetzner. In other words, there’s no need to complain—just drop Hetzner; it’s no big deal since you’ve found something better.

    But if no provider is better than Hetzner, then why should Hetzner be more motivated to improve? It’s already beaten many providers and considers that enough.

    That’s it—two options, very simple.

    This is incorrect. It's valid to use another provider while also giving this provider feedback. It's also valid to continue using the provider, if it remains the best for you, even if it's not as good as it used to be.

    Thanked by 1tumble
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