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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited October 2025

    Nobody ever got fired for going with IBM AWS.

  • Isn't the whole point of cloud services to run your app in multiple availability zones so that you can more easily fail over if one zone goes down?

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:
    Nobody ever got fired for going with IBM AWS.

    I thought it was Cisco..
    Per Google Cisco is a "Cisco is an American multinational technology conglomerate" :lol:

  • @JoshR said:

    @TimboJones said:
    Nobody ever got fired for going with IBM AWS.

    I thought it was Cisco..
    Per Google Cisco is a "Cisco is an American multinational technology conglomerate" :lol:

    I don't think I've ever heard that about Cisco.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @JoshR said:

    @TimboJones said:
    Nobody ever got fired for going with IBM AWS.

    I thought it was Cisco..
    Per Google Cisco is a "Cisco is an American multinational technology conglomerate" :lol:

    I don't think I've ever heard that about Cisco.

    Thanked by 1Daniel15
  • Colocrossing works

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @JoshR said:
    I've noticed a semi shift of companies going back off the cloud and to colo space.

    I have noticed this shift first hand and it is significant. AWS is still growing, but it isn't sucking all the air out of the room like it was 5 years ago.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @TimboJones said:
    Nobody ever got fired for going with IBM AWS.

    The only constant is change.

  • @jbiloh said:

    @JoshR said:
    I've noticed a semi shift of companies going back off the cloud and to colo space.

    I have noticed this shift first hand and it is significant. AWS is still growing, but it isn't sucking all the air out of the room like it was 5 years ago.

    Crazy stuff can happen in the clouds -- lightning, hail, hurricances, some would say UFOs, too, etc. Clouds can't suck the air from colo space because space is a vacuum.

  • The bigger difference isn't uptime, but whether or not your LowEndProvider has an SLA. AWS has an SLA for all paying customers, while most providers here don't. We've all seen stories here of servers going down or providers deadpooling and not giving any compensation whatsoever.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @ehab said:
    a solid business should always have multiple nodes from different providers in different locations.

    But
    But
    But

    This is lowend

    Providers need to provide fir the HA/ Backup/ DR

    At $7/yy prices


  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Shit post by @jbiloh

    It's not an apples to apples comparison

    If one provider in lowendtalk.com experiences downtime does aws or other providers start a comparison?

    No.

    Real immature @jbiloh

    This is place is nothing more but providers paying you the tax and flout rules and constantly shit spam and nothing, literally happens... even your post and comments said it was already in works to get a better solution, and nothing.

    As it gets you more clicks... like the half assed serververify.com you built with Ai and vibe coded the shit out and faked reviews and then asking users here to help fix your codename and find genuine suggestions.

  • @plumberg said:
    Shit post by @jbiloh

    It's not an apples to apples comparison

    If one provider in lowendtalk.com experiences downtime does aws or other providers start a comparison?

    No.

    Real immature @jbiloh

    This is place is nothing more but providers paying you the tax and flout rules and constantly shit spam and nothing, literally happens... even your post and comments said it was already in works to get a better solution, and nothing.

    As it gets you more clicks... like the half assed serververify.com you built with Ai and vibe coded the shit out and faked reviews and then asking users here to help fix your codename and find genuine suggestions.

    Now really tell us how you feel. :smiley:

  • @plumberg said:
    Shit post by @jbiloh

    It's not an apples to apples comparison

    If one provider in lowendtalk.com experiences downtime does aws or other providers start a comparison?

    No.

    Real immature @jbiloh

    This is place is nothing more but providers paying you the tax and flout rules and constantly shit spam and nothing, literally happens... even your post and comments said it was already in works to get a better solution, and nothing.

    As it gets you more clicks... like the half assed serververify.com you built with Ai and vibe coded the shit out and faked reviews and then asking users here to help fix your codename and find genuine suggestions.

    Thanked by 2plumberg ehab
  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Good grief, someone give @plumberg a hug.

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @raindog308 said:
    Good grief, someone give @plumberg a hug.

    Y dont you do the honors?

  • @plumberg said:
    Shit post by @jbiloh

    It's not an apples to apples comparison

    If one provider in lowendtalk.com experiences downtime does aws or other providers start a comparison?

    No.

    Real immature @jbiloh

    This is place is nothing more but providers paying you the tax and flout rules and constantly shit spam and nothing, literally happens... even your post and comments said it was already in works to get a better solution, and nothing.

    As it gets you more clicks... like the half assed serververify.com you built with Ai and vibe coded the shit out and faked reviews and then asking users here to help fix your codename and find genuine suggestions.

    Nobody is making you use this website. If you don't like lowendtalk, just stop using it.

  • LumaDockLumaDock Member, Patron Provider

    @jbiloh said:
    As most people on the internet know, AWS had another large scale outage this morning in their US-East availability zone.

    Many popular websites, airlines and other companies were impacted.

    This "feels" like an annual or twice annual thing with AWS now.

    So, it poses the question, is your LowEnd VPS more, or less, reliable than AWS?

    What a world...

    Well, no system is perfect. Hardware fails, humans fail... it's only a matter of time until something goes wrong.

    Oh, and it's always DNS. :'(

  • zedzed Member
    edited October 2025

    amusingly i was reading this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45614922 (Migrating from AWS to Hetzner) just a few days ago and chortling to myself about how it turned out that all the reasons you went big cloud were actually negatives that you can fix by going bare metal.

    yea i know i'm exaggerating but humor.

    Thanked by 2OhJohn WyvernCo
  • It's surprisingly difficult to build real disaster recovery on any decently sized business across multiple regions. A lot of these issues are people who have everything in us-east-1. It's been years since I did devops, but all our plans for multi-region (and even "multi-cloud" with some things in Azure) always got pushed to the backlog or forgotten about with all the other crap we had to get done. In my three years there, I think we got as far as having full S3 replication to another region ... and it was kinda flaky. (Refactoring terraform is a bitch).

    It doesn't help that AWS puts all their latest tools people want to try in that one region. For smaller projects and even startups, I'd say avoid the big players as long as possible. When you start getting locked in, it's difficult to even stand up a second region, much less switch providers.

    Thanked by 2Noct emgh
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @zed said:
    amusingly i was reading this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45614922 (Migrating from AWS to Hetzner) just a few days ago and chortling to myself about how it turned out that all the reasons you went big cloud were actually negatives that you can fix by going bare metal.

    yea i know i'm exaggerating but humor.

    This is real and it's happening at scale.

    Thanked by 1stable_genius
  • I suspect AWS is much more fragile than it seems.

    Thanked by 3Fourplex emgh WyvernCo
  • FourplexFourplex Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2025

    @stable_genius said:
    I suspect AWS is much more fragile than it seems.

    It is.

    Quite frankly AWS startup credits are a bad idea: it prevents OVH and DigitalOcean from becoming rivals by winning startups, many of which become big (and others which fail).

    AWS is basically IBM at this point: nobody ever gets fired for buying AWS. And we get startups addicted so they don't leave.

    Until a new wave of startups skip over AWS for some simpler, cheaper and newer solution. After all, Chase probably uses IBM but PayPal likely uses x86 servers and Robinhood is cloud-native.

    Thanked by 2stable_genius emgh
  • LumaDockLumaDock Member, Patron Provider

    @LumaDock said:

    @jbiloh said:
    As most people on the internet know, AWS had another large scale outage this morning in their US-East availability zone.

    Many popular websites, airlines and other companies were impacted.

    This "feels" like an annual or twice annual thing with AWS now.

    So, it poses the question, is your LowEnd VPS more, or less, reliable than AWS?

    What a world...

    Well, no system is perfect. Hardware fails, humans fail... it's only a matter of time until something goes wrong.

    Oh, and it's always DNS. :'(

    And again, less than a week later... WHY IS IT ALWAYS DNS?!?!?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/microsoft-azure-experiencing-outage-due-dns-issue-126985916

  • AWS uptime? Please, even a Colocrossing backed summer host disappearing with LET users’ funds is more predictable. :lol:

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @LumaDock said:

    @LumaDock said:

    @jbiloh said:
    As most people on the internet know, AWS had another large scale outage this morning in their US-East availability zone.

    Many popular websites, airlines and other companies were impacted.

    This "feels" like an annual or twice annual thing with AWS now.

    So, it poses the question, is your LowEnd VPS more, or less, reliable than AWS?

    What a world...

    Well, no system is perfect. Hardware fails, humans fail... it's only a matter of time until something goes wrong.

    Oh, and it's always DNS. :'(

    And again, less than a week later... WHY IS IT ALWAYS DNS?!?!?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/microsoft-azure-experiencing-outage-due-dns-issue-126985916

    Another day and another major outage at the hyperscale clouds. Has been brutal lately.

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