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  • Do you have the script in your repo so you can link to it? Or maybe just post it?

    My repo always include all the components for someone else can replicate it. So here is the script: "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ShayNeeo/ping0/refs/heads/main/deploy/install.sh"

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    It says in the script:

    # Build as the non-root repo owner when possible

    There are many sudo lines in the script.

    Why do you need to build as root?

  • shayneeoshayneeo Member
    edited October 2025

    @Not_Oles said: It says in the script:
    Build as the non-root repo owner when possible
    There are many sudo lines in the script.
    Why do you need to build as root?

    I remember last time I ran it one the Development VPS, it will result in the root user somehow. Let me read it carefully.

  • Hey @Not_Oles,

    Good news!

    I ran it with sudo now. You will see the user of my services as ping0 and www-data. Not the root anymore.

    Best regards,
    Thanh

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @shayneeo Glad it worked! Thanks for letting us know!

    Thanked by 1shayneeo
  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep

    Following on from @Not_Oles comments.
    My feelings about the current system are the likely chances of making a mistake and then trying to find and fix it.
    As many know I would like to install Proxmox which is extremely powerful and initially can be complex to learn and setup.
    The Proxmox benefits (once setup) are vast compared to the current facilities, think clusters, high availability, backups, usage graphs etc.
    Don't misunderstand me, I think Bashvm is a brilliant set of scripts that @babywhale has really excelled in creating. My feeling is that it is great for standalone virtualization where someone has their own single server and wants to play. It works and is all done via the cli. Going through many menu options can be challenging but it is well laid out and logical.
    The problem for me is just all the steps. I am sure I could create scripts to simplify a standard build process to make future admin easier (for Tom and others).
    With that in mind if I am going to script the build then why not script for Proxmox.
    This is in fact what I have done with build_vm (name will likely change) which is still work in progress (but works fine).

    Purpose
    -------------
    The build_vm script automates cloning a Proxmox VM template. It guides
    users interactively through setting VM ID, disk size, CPU cores, RAM,
    and network setup. It validates templates, resizes the disk as needed,
    and sets up credentials for easy VM provisioning.
    
    Features
    -----------------
    - Lists templates (IDs: 100, 101, 102) with their names
    - Validates template selection
    - Prompts for VM ID, disk size (GB), cores, RAM (MB)
    - Provides default values if omitted
    - Calculates the next available VM ID automatically
    - Clones the template and resizes the disk as requested
    - Generates a random root password
    - Starts the new VM and displays its internal IP address
    - Detects public IP and sets up NAT ports for VM IDs 200-250
    - Summarizes all details and SSH connection info after creation
    
    Usage
    --------------
    ./build_vm [TEMPLATE_ID] [NEW_VM_ID] [DISK_SIZE_GB] [CORES] [MEMORY_MB]
    

    Now we have an easily built VM (currently latest Debian, Ubuntu or Alpine) running in Proxmox with all of its functionality.

    Building Proxmox (correctly) does take time and yet again this can also be scripted so my feeling is the future of fossvps should be with Proxmox.

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    Here’s what I plan to do with it:

    I want to create several custom Python-based calculators to help me quickly solve math problems from my phone or any device, anytime.

    I’m currently using PythonAnywhere
    to achieve this, but having my own VPS would make it much more flexible and convenient for development and testing.

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  • @msatt said:
    Building Proxmox (correctly) does take time and yet again this can also be scripted so my feeling is the future of fossvps should be with Proxmox.

    Totally agree. +1

    Thanked by 2msatt Not_Oles
  • For more context:

    • The overarching question is, "What is the best open source way for FOSSVPS to install KVM VPSes on multiple servers?"

    maybe there's no best option, a reasonable one is possible.

    • We need to consider multiple servers, including London and Chisinau and Budapest. Los Angeles less so, because we recently have entered what we believe will be the Los Angeles node's final month. The Los Angeles server expires on November 10. Thanks to @fmxm for his kind donation of the Los Angeles server! <3

    Proxmox VE could create cluster and let other physical servers join in, then only one webui needed.

    • Backups are good! Everyone should make and test redundant off-site backups.

    • The VPSes on London and on Los Angeles were created with the excellent BashVM.

    and Proxmox VE also can create a virtual machine using an existing qcow2 image.
    so in my opinion it's possible to migrate existing vps to proxmox, but need some extra configurations I think, I don't try it.

    • I (@Not_Oles) made the VPSes on Chisinau. It is past time that I should post about how I have been making them. You guys can tell me more about what's wrong with my very simple method and how the problems would be fixed if we wipe and move to Proxmox.

    Thank you for creating these scripts, and there are some other maintenance works such as monitoring usable resources of each VPS, making modifications, or even deleting / suspending / recovering, and more. All these trivial and necessary things need to be covered.

    Thanked by 2msatt Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @urtrs

    Thanks for your request!

    Do you need IPv4, or is IPv6-only okay?

    Best wishes!

    Tom

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @msatt said: if I am going to script the build then why not script for Proxmox

    @msatt said: the future of fossvps should be with Proxmox.

    @igctt said: Proxmox VE could create cluster and let other physical servers join in, then only one webui needed.

    @igctt said: there are some other maintenance works such as monitoring usable resources of each VPS, making modifications, or even deleting / suspending / recovering, and more. All these trivial and necessary things need to be covered.

    @FrankCastle said:

    @msatt said:
    I think this is the ideal candidate for Proxmox, but then I would say that ;)

    So have you decided when you are going to wipe everything and slap Proxmox on it? :grin:

    Proxmox is winning! :star:

    Thanked by 1FrankCastle
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @shayneeo and @pixia have been sharing the new Hosteroid Bucharest server. Thanks @Hosteroid! <3

    1. Do you guys ( @shayneeo and @pixia ) think that you have learned more from our interactions on the shared server than would have been possible if you each had individual VPSes?

    2. If you had the choice between staying with shared and moving to individual VPSes, which would you choose?

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @msatt, @FrankCastle, @igctt, someone else, is it crazy to imagine that one or several of you guys might be kind enough to take over FOSSVPS and leverage your significant Proxmox experience to benefit our community? Hopefully, you kindly would accept the FOSSVPS.org domain, the existing servers, plus the remaining balance of the contributions received so far? Of course, I will continue as a friend, but without any specific ongoing FOSSVPS responsibility?

  • @Not_Oles said:
    @msatt, @FrankCastle, @igctt, someone else, is it crazy to imagine that one or several of you guys might be kind enough to take over FOSSVPS and leverage your significant Proxmox experience to benefit our community? Hopefully, you kindly would accept the FOSSVPS.org domain, the existing servers, plus the remaining balance of the contributions received so far? Of course, I will continue as a friend, but without any specific ongoing FOSSVPS responsibility?

    I don't think I can devote enough time to taking it over completely but I'm definitely more than happy to help out.

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Dear @Not_Oles

    Do you guys ( @shayneeo and @pixia ) think that you have learned more from our interactions on the shared server than would have been possible if you each had individual VPSes?

    I think yes possibly I learned about networking, creating KVM VPSes that I never heard of before. It's a good experience.

    If you had the choice between staying with shared and moving to individual VPSes, which would you choose?

    For this question, I think it depend on how much responsibility we have in doing things on the server. As of now I think I can stay in the Bucharest because @pixia1234 is a expert, he can fix the problem he created himself. It's the best. We can not do anything without mistakes so a bit of problem is okay. Just fix it!. :smiley:.

    Thanks @Hosteroid for providing us the Bucharest node.

    Big Thanks for Tom @Not_Oles.

    Best,
    Thanh (ShayNeeo)

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • @Not_Oles said:
    @shayneeo and @pixia have been sharing the new Hosteroid Bucharest server. Thanks @Hosteroid! <3

    1. Do you guys ( @shayneeo and @pixia ) think that you have learned more from our interactions on the shared server than would have been possible if you each had individual VPSes?

    2. If you had the choice between staying with shared and moving to individual VPSes, which would you choose?

    Hi, Tom! Really appericate you and @Hosteroid for providing us with this great server.
    I think I’ve learned a lot more from being on the shared server — it’s been really helpful to see how others manage and troubleshoot things. But if I had the choice, I’d probably go for an individual VPS, since I’m always a bit worried I might mess something up for others. :)

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    I learned something today about Proxmox. It doesn't use libvirt.

    Can anyone comment briefly about the differences between Proxmox's interface to qemu and libvirt (which is an interface to qemu as well as to other virtualization and container technologies)?

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    Previously I posted about the new Hosteroid server. Does anyone else want to share that server? Thanks!

  • @Not_Oles said:
    @urtrs

    Thanks for your request!

    Do you need IPv4, or is IPv6-only okay?

    Best wishes!

    Tom

    IPv6-only is perfectly fine for me. Please give the valuable IPv4 address to someone who needs it more — you’re a good person!

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @urtrs Okay, sounds good! It's getting a little late here, so probably I will set up your VPS tomorrow. I will post here when it is ready and send you login info by PM. Anything else, just let me know. Best wishes! Tom

  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2025

    @Not_Oles said: @msatt, @FrankCastle, @igctt, someone else, is it crazy to imagine that one or several of you guys might be kind enough to take over FOSSVPS and leverage your significant Proxmox experience to benefit our community? Hopefully, you kindly would accept the FOSSVPS.org domain, the existing servers, plus the remaining balance of the contributions received so far? Of course, I will continue as a friend, but without any specific ongoing FOSSVPS responsibility?

    I will take over the total software side of fossvps but still feel you (Tom) need to be at the helm for sourcing new servers / negotiating with hosts and vetting new VM candidates..

    When it comes to support, I think primarily the forum should be used so everyone can help. Obviously if it is Proxmox / system related then it could escalate to me but I can't be first level support.

    Also happy to control / maintain the fossvps domain management.

    How does that sound (just random thoughts and not set in stone).

    Day to day management of users i.e. creation / deletion / password changes / reboots I think would be ideal for volunteers to enhance their knowledge of full system monitoring, Proxmox clusters, Storage systems, backups and High availability (this is great for the CV).

    Tom and I have been having a lot of discussions and our first decision is to convert the London server to Proxmox. I will post a new message with more details a little later when we can confirm a date (hopefullly around 23rd of October) when the current server will be going offline. So those on the London server GET YOUR BACKUPS DONE.

  • Day to day management of users i.e. creation / deletion / password changes / reboots I think >would be ideal for volunteers to enhance their knowledge of full system monitoring, >Proxmox clusters, Storage systems, backups and High availability (this is great for the CV).

    I totally agree with your thoughts @msatt. That would be a great experience for us - volunteer. Furthermore, I think FOSSVPS will be developing to a state that is to big for a one man show. We need more people to maintain the project.

    But it's sad that the original founder of this project is not leading it anymore :disappointed:. Hard to hear about this information.

    Thanked by 1msatt
  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep

    @shayneeo said: But it's sad that the original founder of this project is not leading it anymore . Hard to hear about this information.

    Agreed, I also feel that Tom should be the 'governor', fossvps is his baby and both hosts and users know him and trust him.

    Thanked by 1shayneeo
  • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS 4LIFE
    My Nuxt project will be there
    No links for now
    Pub key in private
    Thanks @alexhost <3

    Thanked by 2msatt alexhost
  • @mefson said:
    Ubuntu 24.04 LTS 4LIFE
    My Nuxt project will be there
    No links for now
    Pub key in private
    Thanks @alexhost <3

    Hey @mefson,
    I think you are really new in this forum, I'm not administrator of this project or anything, but I think should you should give more information for Tom to accept your request.
    Best,
    Thanh (ShayNeeo)

    Thanked by 2msatt Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @msatt said:

    I will take over the total software side of fossvps

    Excellent! Thank you!

    but still feel you (Tom) need to be at the helm for sourcing new servers / negotiating with hosts and vetting new VM candidates..

    That would be great, but I am going to be busy with a new project.

    When it comes to support, I think primarily the forum should be used so everyone can help.

    100% agree.

    @msatt said:

    Agreed, I also feel that Tom should be the 'governor', fossvps is his baby and

    I am just a guy.

    both hosts and users know him and trust him.

    Thanks for your kind words!

    @shayneeo Thanks for [replying to mefson.](https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4537976/#Comment_4537976} Maybe other guys who are part of the project also could jump in and help reply to requests. Maybe there could be some kind of community vetting of the requests.

    @msatt Any chance you could create and assign new VMs just until a on first level support volunteer or two that you want to work with comes aboard?

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @Not_Oles said:
    I learned something today about Proxmox. It doesn't use libvirt.

    Can anyone comment briefly about the differences between Proxmox's interface to qemu and libvirt (which is an interface to qemu as well as to other virtualization and container technologies)?

    I'd love an introduction / walk through Proxmox' qemu interface. That walk through would require a peek at the source code, I suppose. Do we have anybody here who wants to do that for me and for all of us?

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @urtrs said:

    @Not_Oles said:
    @urtrs

    Thanks for your request!

    Do you need IPv4, or is IPv6-only okay?

    Best wishes!

    Tom

    IPv6-only is perfectly fine for me. Please give the valuable IPv4 address to someone who needs it more — you’re a good person!

    Thanks for your kind words!

    London has a 10G network.

    Since @msatt is about to refresh London, maybe you might want to be on London?

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Member, Patron Provider

    @msatt @shayneeo @pixia1234 Maybe we ought to ask @msatt to start FOSSVPS' move to Proxmox on the new Hosteroid server? That could happen pretty much right away / whenever @msatt has time?

    Thanked by 1shayneeo
  • @Not_Oles said:
    @msatt @shayneeo @pixia1234 Maybe we ought to ask @msatt to start FOSSVPS' move to Proxmox on the new Hosteroid server? That could happen pretty much right away / whenever @msatt has time?

    I am okay with that, tottaly agree!

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
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