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Very Specific VMs - Multiple Locations

avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
edited October 2025 in Requests

We are looking for multiple VMs with VERY specific requirements.

Please DO NOT post offers that are not EXACT matches - they will not be considered.

Server Specs Needed:

  • 2 vCPU
  • 2 GB RAM
  • 20 GB NVME
  • 1Gb/s (shared is fine, so long as it isn't constantly full and unusable)
  • 1TB/mo minimum - more is fine
  • DDoS Protection For Volumetric Attacks

The very very specific non-negotiable:

  • Must have ONLY Cogent and/or Arelion (1299) as upstreams. DIRECTLY CONNECTED - NOT YOU -> UPSTREAM -> THEM... ONLY YOU -> THEM...
  • Must offer BGP Sessions For v4 & v6
  • Must NOT be in any IXP
  • If having other upstreams or IXP, must be possible to forcefully route traffic ONLY outbound via those AND only announce prefixes to those
  • Must pass BGP Communities upstream - no Community Filtering / Removal

The extremely specific locations (MUST BE ONE OF THESE - NO SUBSTITUTIONS):

  • Vancouver, CA
  • Montreal, CA
  • Mexico City, MX
  • Sao Paulo, BR
  • Fortaleza, BR
  • London, UK
  • Amsterdam, NL
  • Cairo, EG
  • Cape Town or Johannesburg, SA
  • Istanbul, TR
  • Dubai OR Qatar
  • Sofia, BG
  • Budapest, HU
  • Tokyo, JP or Seoul, KR
  • Singapore, SG
  • Perth, AU
  • Sydney, AU
  • Lagos, NG or Dakar, SN

If anyone is curious - it's for a VERY specific Anycast system. These locations are chosen for their connectivity and to have least amount of servers possible while having 100% global coverage at lowest possible latency. The reason for Arelion and Cogent only is their BGP communities for "Do Not Announce Outside Announced Region" and "Prepend Outside Announced Region" and "Lowest Local-Pref Outside Announced Region" possibilities and strong presence globally, covering all of these locations. The reason for NO IXP is the same basic idea - anyone can be peering in the IXP using remote tunnels and so on. Indian ISPs especially and some Chinese ones are in almost every IXP - as is H.E. which we intentionally are trying to avoid due to their lack of communities and major issues when Anycasting. The reasoning behind must be directly connected to you and not an upstream is the same idea, if you're not directly connected, hops will be higher in that location than others -> traffic from that area may end up going to another node unintentionally or would require us to prepend all other locations entirely to make hops match everywhere - just a lot easier to ensure all upstreams / hosts have direct connected single hop.

We are trying to keep each location under $10/mo to start.

Thank you in advance.

Thanked by 1mandala

Comments

  • Have you found an offering like this outside of any of these locations?

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    @filtered said:
    Have you found an offering like this outside of any of these locations?

    We are only accepting offers for these location and with the stated specs + upstreams. Not other locations or substitutions.

    For most of these locations, Vultr is a possibility, but they tend to have hidden direct peering agreements for example with Google that their do not announce in IXP + Only announce to Cogent + Arelion communities do not avoid. And they tend to route outbound traffic over whatever, not matching inbound -> causes things like pinging Google working in some locations and not others.

    Thanks.

  • @avsisp said:

    @filtered said:
    Have you found an offering like this outside of any of these locations?

    We are only accepting offers for these location and with the stated specs + upstreams. Not other locations or substitutions.

    For most of these locations, Vultr is a possibility, but they tend to have hidden direct peering agreements for example with Google that their do not announce in IXP + Only announce to Cogent + Arelion communities do not avoid. And they tend to route outbound traffic over whatever, not matching inbound -> causes things like pinging Google working in some locations and not others.

    Thanks.

    My point was more along the lines of have you found this exact specification anywhere else? Your best place to start would be with those providers and then to see if you can work towards your goals...

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @filtered said:

    @avsisp said:

    @filtered said:
    Have you found an offering like this outside of any of these locations?

    We are only accepting offers for these location and with the stated specs + upstreams. Not other locations or substitutions.

    For most of these locations, Vultr is a possibility, but they tend to have hidden direct peering agreements for example with Google that their do not announce in IXP + Only announce to Cogent + Arelion communities do not avoid. And they tend to route outbound traffic over whatever, not matching inbound -> causes things like pinging Google working in some locations and not others.

    Thanks.

    My point was more along the lines of have you found this exact specification anywhere else? Your best place to start would be with those providers and then to see if you can work towards your goals...

    Ah - I understand.

    Pretty much only Vultr so far we've found - but as mentioned some issues there and lack of DDoS protection. There are some other VM providers we've found even in a lot of these locations that have the specs somewhat but tend to:

    • Have no DDoS protection
    • Have issues with their routing such as being in an IXP, not being able to route only outbound through certain upstreams, etc.

    So no - at this point we haven't found any hosts matching the requirements perfectly. Hints the post here :smiley:

    Thanked by 1filtered
  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2025

    You might want to reconsider your setup, because this will be hard to find.

    Ignoring all your requirements, alone finding a provider that offers you a $10 VM, with a BGP session + DDoS protection (that also applies to your prefixes) is.. hard. I can come up with maybe 2 providers who would do this at all, but they are both out of the budget to begin with.

    Now add the dozen other unrealistic constrains to it and all options are gone.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @Alyx said:
    You might want to reconsider your setup, because this will be hard to find.

    Ignoring all your requirements, alone finding a provider that offers you a $10 VM, with a BGP session + DDoS protection (that also applies to your prefixes) is.. hard. I can come up with maybe 2 providers who would do this at all, but they are both out of the budget to begin with.

    Now add the dozen other unrealistic constrains to it and all options are gone.

    Can't reconsider requirements. Requirements are firm due to the setup.

    Again, Vultr does offer exactly this for the most part for down to 6$/mo. So it definitely exists.

  • Must NOT be in any IXP

    too hard...

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    @spiritlhl said:
    Must NOT be in any IXP

    too hard...

    Or - Ability to route traffic outside of the IXP to the specified upstreams only and do not announce prefixes in IXP. Pretty simple for anyone using a software router. For example on a Debian system with bird / frr running for bgp:
    ip -4 rule from my.pre.fix.here/24 lookup 123
    ip -4 route a default via cogentip dev cogentdev/linktoswitch src hostip table 123

    It's not that difficult or crazy a request.

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    Hey bud, for Turkey location since Cogent' license is blocked no one is able to directly connect them, If our network is okay for you contact me.

    Example IPs:

    31.14.10.0/24
    93.180.134.0/24

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    @tarisu said:
    Hey bud, for Turkey location since Cogent' license is blocked no one is able to directly connect them, If our network is okay for you contact me.

    Example IPs:

    31.14.10.0/24
    93.180.134.0/24

    Assuming you can:
    "Do Not Announce" to AS44620 and;
    AS60446 Passes Communities and;
    AS9121 has "Do Not Announce" communities to stop announcements to anything except 1299

    Could be possible. Of course would require prepends on others and isn't ideal - but definitely possible if those 3 conditions are met.

  • Unless you find a provider that just happens to already meet your requirements (unlikely, because IXPs save money) the chance that any provider is going to give a shit about making them happen, for only $10/month, is also zero... unless you plan to rent like 100 of those servers from them, making the total profit something worth the hassle for them. Heck, it's rare enough for a provider to offer automated BGP on a $10 server.

    Have you considered speaking to Cogent and Arelion directly? It's not going to be $10/month (more like $1000/month, minimum 10Gbps per location) but at least it's actually be possible to happen. Any company in the world will bend over backwards to meet weird nonstandard specifications for enough money. It sounds like you don't have enough - sad.

    I suppose you already considered Cloudflare Workers or some other CDN.

    Thanked by 3tentor rdes iceman
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    Unless you find a provider that just happens to already meet your requirements (unlikely, because IXPs save money) the chance that any provider is going to give a shit about making them happen, for only $10/month, is also zero... unless you plan to rent like 100 of those servers from them, making the total profit something worth the hassle for them. Heck, it's rare enough for a provider to offer automated BGP on a $10 server.

    Have you considered speaking to Cogent and Arelion directly? It's not going to be $10/month (more like $1000/month, minimum 10Gbps per location) but at least it's actually be possible to happen. Any company in the world will bend over backwards to meet weird nonstandard specifications for enough money. It sounds like you don't have enough - sad.

    I suppose you already considered Cloudflare Workers or some other CDN.

    Thank you for the opinion, however you entirely misunderstood the requirements as I've already got several of these offers by email, telegram, etc. and just by reaching out to hosts in different locations.

    To clarify again as per another comment I made clarifying:

    • host can have other upstreams if the want - so long as they also have those
    • host can be in an ixp no problem

    But:

    • they must be able to set do not announce on others and only announce my prefixes to those
    • they must be able to not announce my prefixes in ixp
    • they must pass communities and not strip them to those
    • they must be able to set a static route for mine or separate table so that outbound traffic only goes over those

    Again, not as huge a request as people seem to think. Here's a cool example for anyone using software router:

    • ip -4 rule a from my.v4.pre.fix/24 lookup 123
    • ip -4 route a default via cogentip dev eth0 src gatewayip table 123

    Say for bird or frr:

    • on the session with cogent or arelion add to export communities 23507:*
    • on session with me, add a different bgp community that isn't set to export to anything and just leave it not exporting

    Magic.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @avsisp said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    Unless you find a provider that just happens to already meet your requirements (unlikely, because IXPs save money) the chance that any provider is going to give a shit about making them happen, for only $10/month, is also zero... unless you plan to rent like 100 of those servers from them, making the total profit something worth the hassle for them. Heck, it's rare enough for a provider to offer automated BGP on a $10 server.

    Have you considered speaking to Cogent and Arelion directly? It's not going to be $10/month (more like $1000/month, minimum 10Gbps per location) but at least it's actually be possible to happen. Any company in the world will bend over backwards to meet weird nonstandard specifications for enough money. It sounds like you don't have enough - sad.

    I suppose you already considered Cloudflare Workers or some other CDN.

    Thank you for the opinion, however you entirely misunderstood the requirements as I've already got several of these offers by email, telegram, etc. and just by reaching out to hosts in different locations.

    To clarify again as per another comment I made clarifying:

    • host can have other upstreams if the want - so long as they also have those
    • host can be in an ixp no problem

    But:

    • they must be able to set do not announce on others and only announce my prefixes to those
    • they must be able to not announce my prefixes in ixp
    • they must pass communities and not strip them to those
    • they must be able to set a static route for mine or separate table so that outbound traffic only goes over those

    Again, not as huge a request as people seem to think. Here's a cool example for anyone using software router:

    • ip -4 rule a from my.v4.pre.fix/24 lookup 123
    • ip -4 route a default via cogentip dev eth0 src gatewayip table 123

    Say for bird or frr:

    • on the session with cogent or arelion add to export communities 23507:*
    • on session with me, add a different bgp community that isn't set to export to anything and just leave it not exporting

    Magic.

    I guess the entire request can be re-sumarized as:

    • those locations
    • has 1299 or cogent directly
    • uses software based router and willing to add a very simple config for my session
  • And then, VPS locations everywhere like aeza style!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:
    And then, VPS locations everywhere like aeza style!

    Thanks for the trolling but maybe you didn't take a second to read the request at all?

    It's not a request for dedicated servers and it's not for use to sell as VM locations.

    It's for a personal project using anycasting ...

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    And then, VPS locations everywhere like aeza style!

    Thanks for the trolling but maybe you didn't take a second to read the request at all?

    It's not a request for dedicated servers and it's not for use to sell as VM locations.

    It's for a personal project using anycasting ...

    oh shut up, the same did aeza and i am pretty sure you will do the same don't play dumb!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2025

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    And then, VPS locations everywhere like aeza style!

    Thanks for the trolling but maybe you didn't take a second to read the request at all?

    It's not a request for dedicated servers and it's not for use to sell as VM locations.

    It's for a personal project using anycasting ...

    oh shut up, the same did aeza and i am pretty sure you will do the same don't play dumb!

    Look guy - I know you're an idiot and like to troll. But it's 830am and I haven't had my coffee yet.

    So do me a favour and go troll someone else would you?

    Nobody on this forum cares about your trolling. It's just annoying and non-productive. A waste of everyone's time and efforts here.

    This isn't for VM locations. Not asking for dedicated servers -> asking for VMs. And to be specific, it's for DNS anycasting and web application firewall anycasting (without caching) and a nat64 network with anycasting.

    You can't host VM on tiny VMs. Doesn't make any sense. I know you don't have but half a brain (if that) but the rest of us here know that what you're saying is not only ignorant but entirely impossible.

  • 5 pages of requirements and then $10/m max price :)

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @bbn12 said:
    5 pages of requirements and then $10/m max price :)

    Does nobody read other comments before commenting?

    Requirements are not 5 pages. It's simply a list of locations and basic server specs that are pretty common + upstream requirement.

    1 non-standard request, everything else standard.

    And it's not like there isn't 1000 hosts on here that have Cogent and Arelion in those locations...

    The only thing "complicated" at all for the request is asking for something that is EXTREMELY common in the BGP community --- a do not announce community or ability to set it manually for our session.... very simple.

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited October 2025

    @avsisp you should get in contact with https://netshop-isp.com.cy/ afaik they could help you with your requirements. Arelion/cogent is one of their upstreams. Ipv4 and ipv6,...

    I can ask one of their tech bosses if this is doable and could send you the contact details.

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @gbzret4d said:
    @avsisp you should get in contact with https://netshop-isp.com.cy/ afaik they could help you with your requirements. Arelion/cogent is one of their upstreams. Ipv4 and ipv6,...

    I can ask one of their tech bosses if this is doable and could send you the contact details.

    Thank you <3 Appreciate it. Feel free to shoot a PM.

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