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  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @paroxsitic said:

    @paroxsitic said:

    [@jbiloh said]
    In an update to be pushed to production in the next few days the source on many (most) reviews will be published just like the benchmark source is published on the benchmark page.

    What's status of this? I'm curious of the source of most these reviews

    Any update?

    It's in production now.

    Couple details on it:

    1. If a review was left natively on ServerVerify there won't be a source link but you will be able to click their username to see their ServerVerify profile.
    2. If a review is from outside of ServerVerify there will be a source text link present.
    3. Not all outside reviews have their source link published yet. We are reviewing everything manually as part of our ongoing data review process. Expecting it be finished in about a week.
  • moontakanemoontakane Member

    I might just be running my mouth here but why is such a through review process needed? Is there no way to distinguish AI generated reviews from the ones scrapped from LET that it needs to be done manually?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @moontakane said:
    I might just be running my mouth here but why is such a through review process needed? Is there no way to distinguish AI generated reviews from the ones scrapped from LET that it needs to be done manually?

    I'm not spending 50 hours a week on it to be fair. For example yesterday I got through a bunch in 3 hours.

    That said, originally we used Ai to assign reviews and benchmarks and to anonymized some reviews. We've backed most of that out now and have manually reviewed all benchmark assignments (I think we are above 95 percent accurate now). Still going through reviews for quality and dumping most. Just trying to make it best it can be.

    Overall I think the data review needs another week and it'll be very good and almost perfect.

    Thanked by 1moontakane
  • z4rz4r Member
    edited October 2025

    Well, the search box brought me to https://serververify.com/advanced-search?term=XX then I cannot perform search at all, because all search requests (by typing in Provider name input) would result in a 302 redirect back to https://serververify.com/, see:

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @z4r said:
    Well, the search box brought me to https://serververify.com/advanced-search?term=XX then I cannot perform search at all, because all search requests (by typing in Provider name input) would result in a 302 redirect back to https://serververify.com/.

    I'm having a hard time understand, I'm sorry. Could you try to explain the issue you're seeing once more?

    Thanks for the help!

  • z4rz4r Member

    @jbiloh said:

    @z4r said:
    Well, the search box brought me to https://serververify.com/advanced-search?term=XX then I cannot perform search at all, because all search requests (by typing in Provider name input) would result in a 302 redirect back to https://serververify.com/.

    I'm having a hard time understand, I'm sorry. Could you try to explain the issue you're seeing once more?

    Thanks for the help!

    Steps:

    1. Go to https://serververify.com/advanced-search
    2. In the Search section, click the Search box under Provider Name:
    3. Type anything, in my example it's Kuroit
    4. Nothing happens. I expect something like a matched list of provider names under the typed text.
    5. Open browser devtools to inspect network requests, and type something else in the Search box under Provider Name, then I see the search request result in a 302 redirect back to homepage rather than returning JSON data, see:
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @z4r said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @z4r said:
    Well, the search box brought me to https://serververify.com/advanced-search?term=XX then I cannot perform search at all, because all search requests (by typing in Provider name input) would result in a 302 redirect back to https://serververify.com/.

    I'm having a hard time understand, I'm sorry. Could you try to explain the issue you're seeing once more?

    Thanks for the help!

    Steps:

    1. Go to https://serververify.com/advanced-search
    2. In the Search section, click the Search box under Provider Name:
    3. Type anything, in my example it's Kuroit
    4. Nothing happens. I expect something like a matched list of provider names under the typed text.
    5. Open browser devtools to inspect network requests, and type something else in the Search box under Provider Name, then I see the search request result in a 302 redirect back to homepage rather than returning JSON data, see:

    Looking into this now.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited October 2025

    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Cheers mate played around with it for a bit and ended up with a messy monitor

    Thanked by 2emgh Marx
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2025

    - We have testers
    - It's a dedicated QA team, right?
    - ...

    Thanked by 2oloke emgh
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Bruh,
    He is literally asking you to visit your site for once and check out what works and what doesn't.

    Is that too much to ask? Considering its your concept from over a year in action.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @plumberg said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Bruh,
    He is literally asking you to visit your site for once and check out what works and what doesn't.

    Is that too much to ask? Considering its your concept from over a year in action.

    I'm on the site a lot and I don't see the same thing, which is why I asked what he's seeing. Maybe it's platform related - I use android with Chrome.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:

    @plumberg said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Bruh,
    He is literally asking you to visit your site for once and check out what works and what doesn't.

    Is that too much to ask? Considering its your concept from over a year in action.

    I'm on the site a lot and I don't see the same thing, which is why I asked what he's seeing. Maybe it's platform related - I use android with Chrome.

    I might at some point. Dev is what I do for a living to I don’t like summarizing bug reports etc on weekends for fun. Nothing rude intended. Something as simple as pasting a too long review results in a bunch of invisible charcaters for example. But I find probably like 4 bugs like that on a few minutes of usage. Just didn’t feel tested.

    Used on iPhone 15, latest iOS.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran
    edited October 2025

    @emgh said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @plumberg said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Bruh,
    He is literally asking you to visit your site for once and check out what works and what doesn't.

    Is that too much to ask? Considering its your concept from over a year in action.

    I'm on the site a lot and I don't see the same thing, which is why I asked what he's seeing. Maybe it's platform related - I use android with Chrome.

    I might at some point. Dev is what I do for a living to I don’t like summarizing bug reports etc on weekends for fun. Nothing rude intended. Something as simple as pasting a too long review results in a bunch of invisible charcaters for example. But I find probably like 4 bugs like that on a few minutes of usage. Just didn’t feel tested.

    Used on iPhone 15, latest iOS.

    Thanks for anything you can point out.

    I don't have any apple phones in my family to test on. Maybe I'll have to buy one.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @plumberg said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @emgh said:
    The site is incredibly bug filled. Just use it and you’ll find lots of bugs in minutes. It’s vibe coded and I sincerely hope your dev is cheap at least.

    Literally not even trying to be rude. Play around with it for a bit. Especially on mobile.

    Could you share what you're seeing specifically?

    Bruh,
    He is literally asking you to visit your site for once and check out what works and what doesn't.

    Is that too much to ask? Considering its your concept from over a year in action.

    I'm on the site a lot and I don't see the same thing, which is why I asked what he's seeing. Maybe it's platform related - I use android with Chrome.

    I might at some point. Dev is what I do for a living to I don’t like summarizing bug reports etc on weekends for fun. Nothing rude intended. Something as simple as pasting a too long review results in a bunch of invisible charcaters for example. But I find probably like 4 bugs like that on a few minutes of usage. Just didn’t feel tested.

    Used on iPhone 15, latest iOS.

    Thanks for anything you can point out.

    I don't have any phones in my family to test on. Maybe I'll have to buy one.

    I think there’s this service that allows you to test websites on multiple devices for an hourly fee

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    What is @jbiloh to do with super unspecific "bug reports"?

    Helping means to provide specific bug reports + hardware and OS, ideally incl. version.

    Well noted, I do not think, let alone say that there are no bugs. What I do say is

    • it's not at all uncommon but in fact to be expected that there are bugs in a dynamic website
    • even more so when many and diverse hardware, OS, browsers, and versions thereof are used
    • without reasonably full information devs at the very least have to waste lots of time and/or likely can't fix a bug and, in fact, often can't even find where in the source to look.

    I get it, many seem to be quite pissed off (and I can understand that to some degree) but, if you/we want to not just vent our emotions but rather want to see bugs getting fixed, we need to provide proper information. Simple as that.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited October 2025

    I'm still confused as to where the majority of the reviews for providers came from and what the administrative challenge is to remove any review that wasn't user submitted or directly scraped from LET/LEB.

    For example, https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/interserver . @interservermike runs a good business and I don't believe he'd make these reviews himself. If I didn't know any better or use their services myself, I may see those obvious fake reviews and think,"Wow, I don't want to do business with such an unprofessional operation that uses fake reviews to boost their image."

    Him, as well as many other providers should be upset that their brand image is being tarnished with such obvious fake AI slop. Maybe I care too much about this but I keep repeating this point and no one else seems to care as much. So many reviews with phrases and words that have never been indexed or visible on either LowEndTalk or LowEndBox. If they're not fake/AI, what is the source of them, when Google itself cannot find these phrases on any indexed page?

    I'm not trying to be all negative. As I said before, there have been improvements in the feature-set and performance of the site itself but the data, which is likely the most important part of a site that advertises itself as, in the words on the about page:

    ServerVerify is a trusted server review and benchmarking platform used by millions. We help businesses of all sizes, from solo entrepreneurs to large enterprises, navigate digital transformation with confidence. Our platform delivers real-world performance insights through community-driven reviews and benchmark results for VPS, dedicated servers, cloud hosting, and more.

    You say it's trusted (has the majority of data and reviews being fake), used by millions (I guess AI/bots?), Navigate with confidence (to who or what?). Delivers real-world performance insights through community-driven reviews (no, no it doesnt) and benchmark results (Questionable).

    Can't you just rip out all the fake data? This site can't be trusted for anything as it is now and while it's great to see feature improvements, if the data is bad then all the features do is help funnel real visitors to fake reviews.

    Thanked by 2Marx borkedascii
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    If we remove the Ai component the concept would have not materialized so soon.
    Plus where would the clean data come from?

    Very few users/ providers would go to another forum to market in an empty site. It takes time to build something organically. Here it was built organically, albeit

    • For AI
    • By AI

    LEB and LET wasnt enough probably

    @jbiloh there are services which let you test your site performance on a variety of browsers/ OS/ versions etc.

    A simple Google search / your best GenAi bot would list out a few of these sites and recommend where to spend some moolah and identify the gaps.

    Its not that difficult and expensive considering the returns you could get for a functional site

    I mean all optimizations aside, AI/ fake reviews is only going to deteriorate the sites' credibility

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Firefox support when?

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  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Neoon said:
    Firefox support when?

    Works perfect for me on Firefox. I'm having a hard time figuring out what issue you are seeing.

    Are there any other details you can share?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @plumberg said:
    If we remove the Ai component the concept would have not materialized so soon.
    Plus where would the clean data come from?

    Very few users/ providers would go to another forum to market in an empty site. It takes time to build something organically. Here it was built organically, albeit

    • For AI
    • By AI

    LEB and LET wasnt enough probably

    @jbiloh there are services which let you test your site performance on a variety of browsers/ OS/ versions etc.

    A simple Google search / your best GenAi bot would list out a few of these sites and recommend where to spend some moolah and identify the gaps.

    Its not that difficult and expensive considering the returns you could get for a functional site

    I mean all optimizations aside, AI/ fake reviews is only going to deteriorate the sites' credibility

    Thank, I'll look into these suggestions.

    As of this morning I'm over 90 percent done with the data review. Almost finished now.

    Review data looking pretty good now but fully finished yet.

  • Carlin0Carlin0 Member

    @jbiloh said:

    @Neoon said:
    Firefox support when?

    Works perfect for me on Firefox.

    For me no...

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4532833#Comment_4532833

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Carlin0 said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @Neoon said:
    Firefox support when?

    Works perfect for me on Firefox.

    For me no...

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4532833#Comment_4532833

    So it works but you're saying you see high cpu usage?

    What version of Firefox and on what O/S?

  • Carlin0Carlin0 Member
    edited October 2025

    @jbiloh said:

    What version of Firefox and on what O/S?

    Debian 13 and Firefox-ESR 140.3.1 or Chrome 141.0.7390.65

    EDIT: but also with Firefox 143.0.4

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Carlin0 said:

    @jbiloh said:

    What version of Firefox and on what O/S?

    Debian 13 and Firefox-ESR 140.3.1 or Chrome 141.0.7390.65

    EDIT: but also with Firefox 143.0.4

    Thanks, that is helpful information.

    @Neon are you also using a Linux distro?

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @DediRock - I received a message from you. Trust me: you do not want to be in ServerVerify. Whatever you do, stay away from AI platforms; otherwise you might as well just pay the owner for advertising and be done with it. To me, promoting AI and stealing the reviews without author consent is a big no - don't be like that and don't endorse that. Please.

    Hello DediRock Nation!

    I need your help in getting some reviews going @ Server Verify. Could you please follow the link and hook me up with a review? I am building something special here @ DediRock and need your help :)

    Any review is great, I want the good, the bad, the ugly, all is welcome. I only have 3 right now and would love to get to 500 :)

    Please go here:

    https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/dedirock

    Thanks!!

    Danny Dahl

    Thanked by 2Marx DediRock
  • Carlin0Carlin0 Member

    @jbiloh I think it's the graphic effect of the dots moving on the strip with the dark blue background that's causing the issue.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Carlin0 said:
    @jbiloh I think it's the graphic effect of the dots moving on the strip with the dark blue background that's causing the issue.

    Yes, agreed.

    Is there anyone running Linux or Mac that is not seeing a performance issue with the moving background?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @default said:
    @DediRock - I received a message from you. Trust me: you do not want to be in ServerVerify. Whatever you do, stay away from AI platforms; otherwise you might as well just pay the owner for advertising and be done with it. To me, promoting AI and stealing the reviews without author consent is a big no - don't be like that and don't endorse that. Please.

    Hello DediRock Nation!

    I need your help in getting some reviews going @ Server Verify. Could you please follow the link and hook me up with a review? I am building something special here @ DediRock and need your help :)

    Any review is great, I want the good, the bad, the ugly, all is welcome. I only have 3 right now and would love to get to 500 :)

    Please go here:

    https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/dedirock

    Thanks!!

    Danny Dahl

    I come in peace and hope we can be friends.

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