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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @emgh said:

    @emgh said:
    So bunch of my ”reviews” were now scraped and some artifical AI rating added, and it says I’m the author of them

    Is this a joke

    To add to this, the better deals a provider has given me, the worse the YABS is (ofc) and the more this hurts their page

    @DigiRDP was kind enough to give me TWO $3/yr VMs (and lots of others as well) and for this their profile page looks like they’re the world’s shittiest provider

    I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:
    So bunch of my ”reviews” were now scraped and some artifical AI rating added, and it says I’m the author of them

    Is this a joke

    See even AI says you're real

    Thanked by 2emgh supple
  • @FAT32 said: I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

    What?

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @zed said:

    @FAT32 said: I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

    What?

    Profits come before members or their opinions / consent - that's how things seem to work.

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    @FAT32 said:

    @emgh said:

    @emgh said:
    So bunch of my ”reviews” were now scraped and some artifical AI rating added, and it says I’m the author of them

    Is this a joke

    To add to this, the better deals a provider has given me, the worse the YABS is (ofc) and the more this hurts their page

    @DigiRDP was kind enough to give me TWO $3/yr VMs (and lots of others as well) and for this their profile page looks like they’re the world’s shittiest provider

    I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

    100% agree

    The big question is, why launch a project poorly and ask users to do my work? If you want community opinions, you should take them seriously. You should delete the reviews and start from scratch, like any business/website/blog, etc.

    I understand that advertising is important, but take a look at webhostingtalk. If you see something that interests you, look here. It seems like a serious community instead of a newspaper full of banners.

    It's just my opinion. Don't take it into account. We all make mistakes, including myself. But seeing user/client opinions makes us improve and we continue working so we don't disappoint them.

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

  • @default said:

    @zed said:

    @FAT32 said: I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

    What?

    Profits come before members or their opinions / consent - that's how things seem to work.

    Ah thanks, now I realize he meant @jbiloh = "providers". I didn't make that connection so it was confusing.

    Thanked by 2FAT32 default
  • @nohavps said:

    @FAT32 said:

    @emgh said:

    @emgh said:
    So bunch of my ”reviews” were now scraped and some artifical AI rating added, and it says I’m the author of them

    Is this a joke

    To add to this, the better deals a provider has given me, the worse the YABS is (ofc) and the more this hurts their page

    @DigiRDP was kind enough to give me TWO $3/yr VMs (and lots of others as well) and for this their profile page looks like they’re the world’s shittiest provider

    I think the main problem is when you have providers that made the site instead of the users/clients.

    100% agree

    The big question is, why launch a project poorly and ask users to do my work? If you want community opinions, you should take them seriously. You should delete the reviews and start from scratch, like any business/website/blog, etc.

    I understand that advertising is important, but take a look at webhostingtalk. If you see something that interests you, look here. It seems like a serious community instead of a newspaper full of banners.

    It's just my opinion. Don't take it into account. We all make mistakes, including myself. But seeing user/client opinions makes us improve and we continue working so we don't disappoint them.

    I also don't understand what this does that VPSBenchmarks doesn't do... Who asked (really)?

  • @jsg said: Do you really want to bring this to a court?

    In USA you need to demonstrate INJURY to bring suit. Being mad is not an injury. What is the injury?

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • davidedavide Member
    edited September 2025

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    On what CPU? Asking because I'm in the market for a CPU upgrade, from my Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz. Because Firefox is a HOG.

  • @supple said:

    @jsg said: Do you really want to bring this to a court?

    In USA you need to demonstrate INJURY to bring suit. Being mad is not an injury. What is the injury?

    You can litigate based on emotional distress. Drag it to infinity basically.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @davide said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    On what CPU? Asking because I'm in the market for a CPU upgrade, from my Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz. Because Firefox is a HOG.

    You right
    I have 386 running like a snail.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    What version of Firefox are you using?

  • HostBilbyHostBilby Member, Patron Provider

    I’ve been thinking a bit about the benchmarking “scores” and their weighting etc… I’d like some thoughts from the community to see if I’m overthinking this from a provider perspective…

    Jon mentioned scores for CPU are based with weight on multi core - aka more cores on a more expensive VPS or Dedi - means a better score.

    While I get the intention - doesn’t that paint a poor picture of the provider when may benchmarks come from single or 2 core VM’s?

    In the case that a decently performing CPU has a good single core score - the provider gets dinged with a D severely lowering overall rating, simply because the benchmark was performed on a lower paid, lower performing VPS - but that isn’t necessarily a good rating of the provider overall…

    How do people think multi core should affect the CPU “score” ultimately affecting the overall rating of the provider?

  • cainyxuescainyxues Member
    edited September 2025

    @bingobangobongo said:
    I’ve been thinking a bit about the benchmarking “scores” and their weighting etc… I’d like some thoughts from the community to see if I’m overthinking this from a provider perspective…

    Jon mentioned scores for CPU are based with weight on multi core - aka more cores on a more expensive VPS or Dedi - means a better score.

    While I get the intention - doesn’t that paint a poor picture of the provider when may benchmarks come from single or 2 core VM’s?

    In the case that a decently performing CPU has a good single core score - the provider gets dinged with a D severely lowering overall rating, simply because the benchmark was performed on a lower paid, lower performing VPS - but that isn’t necessarily a good rating of the provider overall…

    How do people think multi core should affect the CPU “score” ultimately affecting the overall rating of the provider?

    yeah there should be different metrics, maybe make single core and multi core different? still wouldn't make sense in multi core as 4C will have more scores that 2C so......maybe something else like single core scores remain same while for multiple core scores we go multi score/no. of cores? and do ratio of some sorts and put grades based on that? I mean there still should be some single core categorization as even though a single core 9950x will be lower than dunno what ancient xeon multicore vps 9950x should be graded better obv[comparison in multicore]

    just recommending I dunno if its viable or not :sweat_smile:

    Thanked by 1HostBilby
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @jbiloh said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    What version of Firefox are you using?

    Latest, nobody of your guys tested that?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @davide said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    On what CPU? Asking because I'm in the market for a CPU upgrade, from my Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz. Because Firefox is a HOG.

    Scrolling works fine on a Ryzen 5 5600, however the entire website is laggy, the ad's loading like its dial up.
    However a lower end tier Ryzen 2600, the entire website is a dialup show.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Same goes for https://serververify.com/leaderboards
    Also a slide show.

  • davidedavide Member
    edited September 2025

    @Neoon said:
    Same goes for https://serververify.com/leaderboards
    Also a slide show.

    That's pretty smooth for me on my Pentium T2390, scrolls like a breeze, thought I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot of flashy animated widgets that at the end of the day make a lot of difference.

    However if a Ryzen 5600 is already handicapped in the modern web, I think my T2390 will have a few more years of service. My way or the highway :D

    Thanked by 4barbarza oloke zed forest
  • @plumberg said:

    @davide said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    On what CPU? Asking because I'm in the market for a CPU upgrade, from my Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz. Because Firefox is a HOG.

    You right
    I have 386 running like a snail.

    I miss my 386, and the days that came with it

    Thanked by 3plumberg jsg forest
  • @cainyxues said:

    @bingobangobongo said:
    I’ve been thinking a bit about the benchmarking “scores” and their weighting etc… I’d like some thoughts from the community to see if I’m overthinking this from a provider perspective…

    Jon mentioned scores for CPU are based with weight on multi core - aka more cores on a more expensive VPS or Dedi - means a better score.

    While I get the intention - doesn’t that paint a poor picture of the provider when may benchmarks come from single or 2 core VM’s?

    In the case that a decently performing CPU has a good single core score - the provider gets dinged with a D severely lowering overall rating, simply because the benchmark was performed on a lower paid, lower performing VPS - but that isn’t necessarily a good rating of the provider overall…

    How do people think multi core should affect the CPU “score” ultimately affecting the overall rating of the provider?

    yeah there should be different metrics, maybe make single core and multi core different? still wouldn't make sense in multi core as 4C will have more scores that 2C so......maybe something else like single core scores remain same while for multiple core scores we go multi score/no. of cores? and do ratio of some sorts and put grades based on that? I mean there still should be some single core categorization as even though a single core 9950x will be lower than dunno what ancient xeon multicore vps 9950x should be graded better obv[comparison in multicore]

    just recommending I dunno if its viable or not :sweat_smile:

    We all know how flawed Geekbench 6 is with multicore scores...

    Thanked by 2cainyxues HostBilby
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @davide said:

    @Neoon said:
    Same goes for https://serververify.com/leaderboards
    Also a slide show.

    That's pretty smooth for me on my Pentium T2390, scrolls like a breeze, thought I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot of flashy animated widgets that at the end of the day make a lot of difference.

    However if a Ryzen 5600 is already handicapped in the modern web, I think my T2390 will have a few more years of service. My way or the highway :D

    We need the highest single core benchmark CPU you can get, just to browse Serververify.
    Anyone willing to provide hourly based VM's?

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    What version of Firefox are you using?

    Latest, nobody of your guys tested that?

    I am still on v2.03.69

  • @barbarza said: We all know how flawed Geekbench 6 is with multicore scores...

    that's why I was also confused on how one would evaluate multi score [I remember @labze and @lukast__ mentioning about this] but we can't go with gb5 for multi score and gb6 single core imo so....I mean if we are just discussing about cpu -- single core does prove how how strong the cpu is....or we can go with expected single core score of a cpu model and compare it with the gb6 single score and maybe we can get something out of it? since overselling is also an issue....

  • @cainyxues said:

    @barbarza said: We all know how flawed Geekbench 6 is with multicore scores...

    that's why I was also confused on how one would evaluate multi score [I remember @labze and @lukast__ mentioning about this] but we can't go with gb5 for multi score and gb6 single core imo so....I mean if we are just discussing about cpu -- single core does prove how how strong the cpu is....or we can go with expected single core score of a cpu model and compare it with the gb6 single score and maybe we can get something out of it? since overselling is also an issue....

    Some super intricate algorithms are needed for this, glad I don't have to come up with them!

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @barbarza said:

    @plumberg said:

    @davide said:

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    On what CPU? Asking because I'm in the market for a CPU upgrade, from my Pentium Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz. Because Firefox is a HOG.

    You right
    I have 386 running like a snail.

    I miss my 386, and the days that came with it

    What are boost 386 gave over 286

    Playing GP / Dangerous Dave

    Thanked by 1barbarza
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    If anyone wants to see, how responsive the website is, with Firefox.
    When it freezes, its not me stop scrolling, its the browser processing the scroll request.

  • HostBilbyHostBilby Member, Patron Provider

    @barbarza said:

    @cainyxues said:

    @bingobangobongo said:
    I’ve been thinking a bit about the benchmarking “scores” and their weighting etc… I’d like some thoughts from the community to see if I’m overthinking this from a provider perspective…

    Jon mentioned scores for CPU are based with weight on multi core - aka more cores on a more expensive VPS or Dedi - means a better score.

    While I get the intention - doesn’t that paint a poor picture of the provider when may benchmarks come from single or 2 core VM’s?

    In the case that a decently performing CPU has a good single core score - the provider gets dinged with a D severely lowering overall rating, simply because the benchmark was performed on a lower paid, lower performing VPS - but that isn’t necessarily a good rating of the provider overall…

    How do people think multi core should affect the CPU “score” ultimately affecting the overall rating of the provider?

    yeah there should be different metrics, maybe make single core and multi core different? still wouldn't make sense in multi core as 4C will have more scores that 2C so......maybe something else like single core scores remain same while for multiple core scores we go multi score/no. of cores? and do ratio of some sorts and put grades based on that? I mean there still should be some single core categorization as even though a single core 9950x will be lower than dunno what ancient xeon multicore vps 9950x should be graded better obv[comparison in multicore]

    just recommending I dunno if its viable or not :sweat_smile:

    We all know how flawed Geekbench 6 is with multicore scores...

    Agree - but giving a provider a D or lower, just because it’s not Ryzen and not multi core - isn’t actually a true representation… that just leads people to believe (even more than they do today), that a high clock desktop cpu is best for them - when it isn’t in most cases!

    Thanked by 3sh97 cainyxues barbarza
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Neoon said:
    If anyone wants to see, how responsive the website is, with Firefox.
    When it freezes, its not me stop scrolling, its the browser processing the scroll request.

    You think vibe coded sites will be efficient?

    I bet the LLM has hallucinated so much that there are unused classes and dead code no one has any clue about and its just thrown out

    Thanked by 1forest
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2025

    @Neoon said:
    Unusable with Firefox, the front page scroll is laggy, uses up an entire core.

    Well, i agree this isn't the best optimized website of the year...

    My laptop always spins up fans when i have it in foreground.

    Chromium version: 140.0.7339.207 (Official Build) Arch Linux (64-bit)

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