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@Francisco probs knows the market in LUX pretty well
Root used to be an option but they only sell to locals now. We ended up pulling cogent and hurricane ourselves.
Francisco
Where do you colocate if I may ask?
We used to be in luxconnect.
We’ve since moved to Switzerland.
Francisco
1Gbps per ~500€. In LUX, good luck.
Al.uy in Belgium soon?
Maybe xenius.be can help? No pricing currently, but many years ago that was the best price I could find for colo... (without requesting quotes, and without registered company)
However they've since been taken over by another company. When I contacted Xenius a while ago (before they were taken over) they didn't permit me to host anything that attracted DDoS attacks, so no game server or IRC were their main points...
Fusa.is also has colo but traffic is quite pricey and they also said at one point their DC doesn't like it if they get a DDoS (At least I think it was them, but they have DDoS protection now).
If my memory is correct, fusa mostly uses Telenet, which for non Telenet customers goes to Brussels and back, at least last time I checked.
dstny.be also offers colo. Datapacket is pretty cheap when it comes to dedicated servers I think, but most others don't have public prices...
Edit: also when BuyVM used to be in lux it always had way higher latency vs anything else (NL, FR, DE, UK) since at least from Telenet it went through Frankfurt first, so depending on what the goal is that may be worth noting.
Thanks all the options
ill have a look at all of em. Datapacket sadly doesnt have own DCs and transit we would probably not get protected for the pricing we offer currently, but its good to note.
Ill have to figure out what transit may be feasable there if we dont go with an ISP
As Belgium lacks cheap hosts (except ovh with their localzone, but for other countries that goes back to france first), I'd be interested to see how your pricing turns out :P
Both locations are tough. I’ve seen some hosts use M247 for Belgium and their network is not good.
I can confirm to avoid M247 in BE, haven't had great experiences with them either network wise.
Not sure what the appeal is for BE and LUX. There are definitely better options in neighboring countries.
Colo with M247 in BE, get transit from anyone else, profit.
alr got UK and NL ^^ what options are people looking for? im open
As someone living in BE I'd love BE, not many advantages to it though, apart from the power grid in NL being at max capacity afaik?
If prices aren't competetive people will pick NL anyways. Though Google picked Belgium for their first DC outside of the US. What holds me back from BE servers is usually the high prices for bandwidth.
Why BE/LUX while you have NL? It's called BENELUX for a reason.
Switzerland, Norway
Vatican City
Monaco
San Marino
Liechtenstein
Malta
Andorra
Cyprus
Montenegro
Depends, there are some hosts in NL that have really good latency to BE, others not so much (incl al.uy, currently routes through Madrid for Telenet Belgium).
But for, for example Datapacket my ISP's gateway gets 3.5ms to Brussels and 7.3ms to Amsterdam.
Datapacket Brussels gets 8ms to al.uy.
It all depends on one's use-case, for example if you want to use a VPN, NL would, in this case add 16ms for Belgian users (based on datapacket latency).
On top of that, my ISP loves to have routing issues or capacity issues in places, keeping traffic in BE limits this. And it is the reason why I'm testing other ISP's currently at home, though my fears that the coax street cabinet will go in congestion are there...
As non BE users or people not looking for BE as location it doesn't really add much, though it is central like NL. Lots of traffic could still go through NL though.