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Introducing ServerVerify: built with the LowEndTalk community in mind

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    I see the dedicated servers test results on the benchmark page. I think it would be good if we could see in the list which service type is related to the test results. Maybe a small icon like ๐Ÿ–ฅ or ๐Ÿ–ฆ could be used to distinguish VPS results from dedicated server results. Because right now, we can only understand what we're talking about if we click on the View link.

  • Maybe someone already suggested, but it would be good if the system can compare benchmark results in roughly equivalent product buckets. Something like this tool

    Basically answering questions like "For $x, how does performance compare across providers?" or "How do X vcpu plans compare against providers with price weighting"

  • edited September 2025

    So many nonames VPS providers with probably 2 customers and empty nodes that get insane results. Once there is more than 20 active clients the performance will be shite.

    Either way benchmarks are kinda useless unless they are done on weekly basis + during peak hours to have a realistic picture.

    Historic graphs with weekly benchmarks make much more sense.

    Thanked by 2mandala tux
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @rustelekom said:
    I see the dedicated servers test results on the benchmark page. I think it would be good if we could see in the list which service type is related to the test results. Maybe a small icon like ๐Ÿ–ฅ or ๐Ÿ–ฆ could be used to distinguish VPS results from dedicated server results. Because right now, we can only understand what we're talking about if we click on the View link.

    Where would you locate the icons?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @WyvernCo said:
    Maybe someone already suggested, but it would be good if the system can compare benchmark results in roughly equivalent product buckets. Something like this tool

    Basically answering questions like "For $x, how does performance compare across providers?" or "How do X vcpu plans compare against providers with price weighting"

    Nice suggestion, I'll check that out.

    Having a comparison and easier way to understand the data would be good too I think.

    So many areas we can enhance stuff further.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @TheGreatOakley said:
    So many nonames VPS providers with probably 2 customers and empty nodes that get insane results. Once there is more than 20 active clients the performance will be shite.

    Either way benchmarks are kinda useless unless they are done on weekly basis + during peak hours to have a realistic picture.

    Historic graphs with weekly benchmarks make much more sense.

    There's a lot of provider submitted benchmarks which I think are performed on low laod or no load nodes. It's something we are looking at.

    Once the site collects more data there are tons of options. Your idea about average benchmark score over time (in graph format) is awesome. Will consider it.

  • RubbenRubben Member
    edited September 2025

    pls dont send spam emails, I don't remember ever signing up for a lowend(shit)box mailing list or consenting to receiving marketing email, thanks

  • @jbiloh said:

    @MannDude said:

    @plumberg said:
    Yeah, something worked on for over a year. Sure.

    In rare defense of John, the timeline of a year may be accurate.

    I tried to claim my provider profile with my @incognet.io email. It would not work. It seems that they yanked the email from my LET profile during a limited period where I was using a @myprivateinbox.com email, as I wanted to test receiving mail when that was still a work in progress. That was in use late last year sometime as I recall, but only very shortly.

    The concept is actually older than a year.

    It started as LowEndMark with a very specific and limited purview, and after a few months we changed the name to ServerVerify as the scope of the project increased significantly.

    Did you got some material like a banner or something to start with? Maybe sell the domain?

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @jbiloh said:

    @rustelekom said:
    I see the dedicated servers test results on the benchmark page. I think it would be good if we could see in the list which service type is related to the test results. Maybe a small icon like ๐Ÿ–ฅ or ๐Ÿ–ฆ could be used to distinguish VPS results from dedicated server results. Because right now, we can only understand what we're talking about if we click on the View link.

    Where would you locate the icons?

    Anywhere I guess, but I personally prefer before the CPU column. Also, some people create a separate column for the type, but this is only justified if the results of the tests have a large number of records.

  • @MannDude said:

    @plumberg said:
    Yeah, something worked on for over a year. Sure.

    In rare defense of John, the timeline of a year may be accurate.

    I tried to claim my provider profile with my @incognet.io email. It would not work. It seems that they yanked the email from my LET profile during a limited period where I was using a @myprivateinbox.com email, as I wanted to test receiving mail when that was still a work in progress. That was in use late last year sometime as I recall, but only very shortly.

    Thats why let got slow sometimes.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:

    @MannDude said:

    @plumberg said:
    Yeah, something worked on for over a year. Sure.

    In rare defense of John, the timeline of a year may be accurate.

    Sure, it could. But the comments says otherwise...

    I tried to claim my provider profile with my @incognet.io email. It would not work. It seems that they yanked the email from my LET profile during a limited period where I was using a @myprivateinbox.com email, as I wanted to test receiving mail when that was still a work in progress. That was in use late last year sometime as I recall, but only very shortly.

    The concept is actually older than a year.

    It started as LowEndMark with a very specific and limited purview, and after a few months we changed the name to ServerVerify as the scope of the project increased significantly.

    I own quite a few domains registered in late 1990s...

    Woohoo.

    The whole attempt to showcase this as a carefully thought project is what really grinds the gears.

    In your over a year, you never thought how the scoring of the providers would work? GenAi didnt suggest adding additional filters to sort through/ compare that users may want?

    Basic things would have been identified and addressed prior to the launch.

    After launch its more of doing a slight change here and there to create a finished product.

    Here its like sticking the spaghetti code to the wall with chatgpt 3 model.

    @jbiloh let's be realistic here.
    Project concept - over a year
    Website creation ? 1 week prior to the so called soft launch?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @rustelekom said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @rustelekom said:
    I see the dedicated servers test results on the benchmark page. I think it would be good if we could see in the list which service type is related to the test results. Maybe a small icon like ๐Ÿ–ฅ or ๐Ÿ–ฆ could be used to distinguish VPS results from dedicated server results. Because right now, we can only understand what we're talking about if we click on the View link.

    Where would you locate the icons?

    Anywhere I guess, but I personally prefer before the CPU column. Also, some people create a separate column for the type, but this is only justified if the results of the tests have a large number of records.

    Like in this area?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @ascicode said:

    @MannDude said:

    @plumberg said:
    Yeah, something worked on for over a year. Sure.

    In rare defense of John, the timeline of a year may be accurate.

    I tried to claim my provider profile with my @incognet.io email. It would not work. It seems that they yanked the email from my LET profile during a limited period where I was using a @myprivateinbox.com email, as I wanted to test receiving mail when that was still a work in progress. That was in use late last year sometime as I recall, but only very shortly.

    Thats why let got slow sometimes.

    I actually just doubled the amount of CPU cores that runs LowEndTalk. Traffic is way up the past 2 years and it was time to increase the power even during periods outside of Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @jbiloh said:
    Like in this area?

    Yes, but in list of "Latest Benchmarks" :)
    .

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @rustelekom said:

    @jbiloh said:
    Like in this area?

    Yes, but in list of "Latest Benchmarks" :)
    .

    Ah, I misunderstood, now I see what you mean.

    What icon would you use for a vps?

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @jbiloh said:

    @rustelekom said:

    @jbiloh said:
    Like in this area?

    Yes, but in list of "Latest Benchmarks" :)
    .

    Ah, I misunderstood, now I see what you mean.

    What icon would you use for a vps?

    I am far from website design, so I doubt I can recommend something.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @rustelekom said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @rustelekom said:

    @jbiloh said:
    Like in this area?

    Yes, but in list of "Latest Benchmarks" :)
    .

    Ah, I misunderstood, now I see what you mean.

    What icon would you use for a vps?

    I am far from website design, so I doubt I can recommend something.

    I'm working on it :)

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    Anyone noticed it has no search functionality so hard for people to find for specific host and the one place I found a search string in url (clicking on a city and country in list) goes to a broken string where queries don't work properly. For example in list are netcup reviews but:
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks?type=0&location=&cpu=&isp=&asn=197540&org=&country=&os=&provider=
    Doesn't work. That's netcup ASN. Should find them. But doesn't.

    When will search be implemented?

    Thanked by 1mandala
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @avsisp said:
    Anyone noticed it has no search functionality so hard for people to find for specific host and the one place I found a search string in url (clicking on a city and country in list) goes to a broken string where queries don't work properly. For example in list are netcup reviews but:
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks?type=0&location=&cpu=&isp=&asn=197540&org=&country=&os=&provider=
    Doesn't work. That's netcup ASN. Should find them. But doesn't.

    When will search be implemented?

    Search is a concept

  • ozontiozonti Member, Patron Provider

    I think that when copying from Yabs from one place to another, you should have the user's permission, not just copy and paste.

    Will Yabs have a watermark now?

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : xxxxx
    
    I AUTHORIZE THE COPY PASTE OF THE YABS:   โŒ 
    
    Thanked by 3oloke barbarza mandala
  • @ozonti said:
    I think that when copying from Yabs from one place to another, you should have the user's permission, not just copy and paste.

    Will Yabs have a watermark now?

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : xxxxx
    
    I AUTHORIZE THE COPY PASTE OF THE YABS:   โŒ 
    

    What is asking? Nothing was asked...

    Thanked by 2tentor barbarza
  • ozontiozonti Member, Patron Provider

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @ozonti said:
    I think that when copying from Yabs from one place to another, you should have the user's permission, not just copy and paste.

    Will Yabs have a watermark now?

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : xxxxx
    
    I AUTHORIZE THE COPY PASTE OF THE YABS:   โŒ 
    

    What is asking? Nothing was asked...

    :(

    I think that Yabs published on LET should have the authors authorize copy/paste to pages other than LET.

    Just a suggestion.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @avsisp said:
    Anyone noticed it has no search functionality so hard for people to find for specific host and the one place I found a search string in url (clicking on a city and country in list) goes to a broken string where queries don't work properly. For example in list are netcup reviews but:
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks?type=0&location=&cpu=&isp=&asn=197540&org=&country=&os=&provider=
    Doesn't work. That's netcup ASN. Should find them. But doesn't.

    When will search be implemented?

    We are working on a full search feature this week.

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • @ozonti said:

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @ozonti said:
    I think that when copying from Yabs from one place to another, you should have the user's permission, not just copy and paste.

    Will Yabs have a watermark now?

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : xxxxx
    
    I AUTHORIZE THE COPY PASTE OF THE YABS:   โŒ 
    

    What is asking? Nothing was asked...

    :(

    I think that Yabs published on LET should have the authors authorize copy/paste to pages other than LET.

    Just a suggestion.

    I haven't bothered to even look as it's not something I care about personally, but surely your account creation at LET authorizes use of your contributions to LET to be recycled on LET-sibling properties? I would have thought even the "account creation" at SV some people are upset about would be covered.

    • not a lawyer except when sometimes perpetrating to be a virtually legal representative of certain internet endeavors perhaps but not necessarily including some unnamed "free vps" type situations such as the multitude run by @Not_Oles or others.
  • @zed said:

    @ozonti said:

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @ozonti said:
    I think that when copying from Yabs from one place to another, you should have the user's permission, not just copy and paste.

    Will Yabs have a watermark now?

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : xxxxx
    
    I AUTHORIZE THE COPY PASTE OF THE YABS:   โŒ 
    

    What is asking? Nothing was asked...

    :(

    I think that Yabs published on LET should have the authors authorize copy/paste to pages other than LET.

    Just a suggestion.

    I haven't bothered to even look as it's not something I care about personally, but surely your account creation at LET authorizes use of your contributions to LET to be recycled on LET-sibling properties? I would have thought even the "account creation" at SV some people are upset about would be covered.

    • not a lawyer except when sometimes perpetrating to be a virtually legal representative of certain internet endeavors perhaps but not necessarily including some unnamed "free vps" type situations such as the multitude run by @Not_Oles or others.

    Decided to be a nanny and comb through the fine print.

    Terms of Service
    You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this community to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you.

    We at this community also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you. We log all internet protocol addresses accessing this web site.

    Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are inappropriate on this community.

    We reserve the right to remove any content for any reason or no reason at all. We reserve the right to terminate any membership for any reason or no reason at all.

    You must be at least 13 years of age to use this service.

    The community rules don't state anything about this either.

    So yeah real smooth. @jbiloh please delete my email on ServerVerify that is matched with my LET account as I have no desire to use this ever, nor did I ask... And you didn't ask the rest of the community either to use their emails from LET.

    Thanked by 2cmeerw mandala
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    What are your plans for those with obviously fake reviews? On LET providers who engage in such activity would be very quickly shit-canned, and reasonably so.

    Go here: https://serververify.com/reviews and sort by "Highest Rated".

    Who is 000WebHost? Never seen them here, yet they have 745 "reviews": https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/000webhost - In fact, the first several pages of "Highest Rated" reviews are all for 000webhost.

    What is interesting though is that real user submitted reviews, you can click on the username and it takes you to the profile of the submitter. In the case of 000Webhost, no such profiles exist. I am not suggesting that you create fake profiles to pair with fake reviews. So in the case of 000webhost, where did these reviews come from?

    So my suggestions would be to remove the obvious fake, AI, bot and shill shit that makes the site worthless as a metric for anyone seeking anything halfway resembling honest feedback AND if your reviews are being scraped from LET/LEB, then the review should have a very clear disclaimer and link to the original source (Ex: This review was submitted on LowEndBox, read it here ) so that others can trust that the review is real, can read discussion/comments relevant to where the review was originally posted, etc.

    Not picking on 000webhost, they were just the first one I found and it took 3 seconds to discover something was off.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @MannDude said:
    What are your plans for those with obviously fake reviews? On LET providers who engage in such activity would be very quickly shit-canned, and reasonably so.

    Go here: https://serververify.com/reviews and sort by "Highest Rated".

    Who is 000WebHost? Never seen them here, yet they have 745 "reviews": https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/000webhost - In fact, the first several pages of "Highest Rated" reviews are all for 000webhost.

    What is interesting though is that real user submitted reviews, you can click on the username and it takes you to the profile of the submitter. In the case of 000Webhost, no such profiles exist. I am not suggesting that you create fake profiles to pair with fake reviews. So in the case of 000webhost, where did these reviews come from?

    So my suggestions would be to remove the obvious fake, AI, bot and shill shit that makes the site worthless as a metric for anyone seeking anything halfway resembling honest feedback AND if your reviews are being scraped from LET/LEB, then the review should have a very clear disclaimer and link to the original source (Ex: This review was submitted on LowEndBox, read it here ) so that others can trust that the review is real, can read discussion/comments relevant to where the review was originally posted, etc.

    Not picking on 000webhost, they were just the first one I found and it took 3 seconds to discover something was off.

    000WebHost is an old project of Hostinger.com, as far as I can recall, and it was once free hosting...

  • Would be good if we could filter the leaderboard by offered location. Trying to find ones that are offered in Asia / Australia / New Zealand

    Thanked by 2HostBilby mandala
  • @MannDude said: I am not suggesting that you create fake profiles to pair with fake reviews.

    snorted coffee thx <3

    Thanked by 2MannDude Xrmaddness
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @zed said:

    @MannDude said: I am not suggesting that you create fake profiles to pair with fake reviews.

    snorted coffee thx <3

    Try boofing it next time. I still prefer mine drank, however.

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