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Coinify going KYC rampage / introducing travel rule

layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

Hi,

https://coinify.readme.io/docs/travel-rule-customer-data-collection#/

What This Means for Your Customers

To comply with the Travel Rule, we will require customers to complete a basic KYC (Know Your Customer) flow within the Payment Window flow before transacting. This will include collecting the following data, depending on whether the customer is an Individual or a Business:

    Full legal name (or Business name in case it's a business customer)
    Email
    Country of residence
    Residential Address
    Date of birth
    Legal Entity Identifier (only in case of Business customers)
    Type of the wallet the customer is paying from or receiving funds to (custodial/non-custodial)
    Wallet address (for non-custodial walets) or Exchange name (in case of Custodial wallet)

i guess time to find something new...

Thanked by 2oloke hyperblast

Comments

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited September 2025

    Cryptomus does the same. All of them will do the same. The best is to using self hosting solution. Some Hosting Providers will still using 3rd party. But the KYC will be enforced…

    I prefer to pay a little fee for self payment (BTCPay Server) instead paying to payment gateway to ask me to do KYC.

  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    plisio? heleket? coinpayments? have had no issues with those but uncertain

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR
    edited September 2025

    @sandoz said:
    Cryptomus does the same. All of them will do the same. The best is to using self hosting solution. Some Hosting Providers will still using 3rd party. But the KYC will be enforced…

    I prefer to pay a little fee for self payment (BTCPay Server) instead paying to payment gateway to ask me to do KYC.

    Hi,

    then i guess we need to search something for self hosting.... any software solution out there or do we have to dev it from scratch?

  • @aluy said:
    plisio? heleket? coinpayments? have had no issues with those but uncertain

    Those probably will follow the others steps in couple months. That is just a marketing strategy to cap customers and companies. Then when they are “big enough” they change their policies and start to implement AML / KYC etc

    Thanked by 1JohnnySac
  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    @sandoz said:

    @aluy said:
    plisio? heleket? coinpayments? have had no issues with those but uncertain

    Those probably will follow the others steps in couple months. That is just a marketing strategy to cap customers and companies. Then when they are “big enough” they change their policies and start to implement AML / KYC etc

    except for heleket these companies have been around for a while though

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @layer7 said:

    @sandoz said:
    Cryptomus does the same. All of them will do the same. The best is to using self hosting solution. Some Hosting Providers will still using 3rd party. But the KYC will be enforced…

    I prefer to pay a little fee for self payment (BTCPay Server) instead paying to payment gateway to ask me to do KYC.

    Hi,

    then i guess we need to search something for self hosting.... any software solution out there or do we have to dev it from scratch?

    Checkout btcpay, it's good is what I heard

    Thanked by 3aluy layer7 oloke
  • davidedavide Member
    edited September 2025

    By managing crypto yourself you'd incur in capital gains / losses and related bureaucracy, I did the paperwork once and it wasn't worth the trouble at all. There are online services that claim to compute crypto taxes by processing the transactions on your addresses, they are BS and the results they produce are wrong if the gains/losses span multiple crypto exchanges. I wrote my own software for this using the LIFO rule but it only works for bitcoin.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @aluy said:

    @sandoz said:

    @aluy said:
    plisio? heleket? coinpayments? have had no issues with those but uncertain

    Those probably will follow the others steps in couple months. That is just a marketing strategy to cap customers and companies. Then when they are “big enough” they change their policies and start to implement AML / KYC etc

    except for heleket these companies have been around for a while though

    That's all well and good, but Cryptomus didn't ask for KYC at the beginning either, and if it did, it was very rare. Now they've started to introduce it.

    Unfortunately, this is going to be a recurring practice in these companies. It may not be today or tomorrow, but in a few months it will happen.
    https://www.corporatecomplianceinsights.com/eu-taken-another-step-toward-unified-aml-supervision-processes-ready/

    https://finance.ec.europa.eu/financial-crime/anti-money-laundering-and-countering-financing-terrorism-eu-level_en

    This article indicates that it will be fully operational in two years.

    The European Union’s new regulation aimed at combatting money laundering is expected to go into full effect in two years

    So it should arrive there soon too. If it doesn't, great. But I have my doubts.

  • @layer7 said:

    @sandoz said:
    Cryptomus does the same. All of them will do the same. The best is to using self hosting solution. Some Hosting Providers will still using 3rd party. But the KYC will be enforced…

    I prefer to pay a little fee for self payment (BTCPay Server) instead paying to payment gateway to ask me to do KYC.

    Hi,

    then i guess we need to search something for self hosting.... any software solution out there or do we have to dev it from scratch?

    VSYS has created a self-hosted solution called shkeeper.io, its here in Github https://github.com/vsys-host/shkeeper.io but ive not checked it tbh. There is also BTCPay Server

    Thanked by 1TrK
  • It's MiCA - the antycrypto europian lawes.

  • snowman11snowman11 Member
    edited September 2025

    Switch to oxapay works great no KYC from you or from the customer

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