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What is current prices of IP Transit And IX in Singapore ?
Hello,
So as you know india IP Transit price is very costly,
But i can see some good prices in Singapore around $12k to $14K for 100G port,
But i am not 100% sure that this price is the best possible price.
If you guys can give your input that would be helpful.
I am looking for:
GTT, TATA, Cogent, Arelion, Telstra, etc.
Whatever you have, please if you can share your price range you have then i will have a rough idea what could be singapore Network prices.
Thank you.
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generally 20c-30c for smaller commits/burstable ports, and lower for flat ports. Not worth getting GTT, Arelion, or Cogent in APAC though.
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Thank you for reply.
per mbps right ? which translates to 200$ per 1Gbit, correct me if i am wrong.
Okay which ones are good for APAC region ?
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NTT, PCCW from what I've heard.
Tagging some providers with their own Tier 1 network blend if they are willing to share some business secrets. I am curious to know too. Residential ISP bandwidth in Singapore is incredibly high for a relatively low price, so I wonder how this relates to the bandwidth pricing for providers.
@serverpoint has Telstra and PCCW
@xTom had NTT and has PCCW
Agreed, these three plus Telstra from my experience are quite weak in APAC and usually trombone traffic to the US or EU. NTT, PCCW, Lumen and TATA are a little bit better, and some of them have settlement-free peering agreements to each other's network within the region.
Singapore will get you the cheapest bandwidth in the area from what we've seen in the past out of most of the Asian markets.
NTT PCCW are decent, it really depends on your target market and end users. A lot of places have cheap local traffic example Indonesia but as soon as it leaves the country elsewhere it's $$$.
It's best to figure out the market and talk with providers. I know NTT has a much different price from their US and EU markets when it comes to APAC.
Do you know price range they offer for like 10G 95% ?
NTT and PCCW
Have you checked HostUniversal transit (AS136557) to get a mix of upstreams? They are active in Singapore and I would assume it comes cheaper when using their blend than e.g. signing up with two Tier-1.
I've seen several LET providers using them in Singapore (and Tokyo as well) and I would deem them good enough from my experience with providers using them.
HostUniversal is using Datacamp/CDN77 besides Telstra as upstream, via Datacamp/CDN77 you get PCCW, NTT and Tata (and -sic- Cogent).
HostUniversal has pops at RackCentral and Eq3, I think, plus IX at e.g. Equinix in SGP.
hostuniversal, datacamp/cdn77, GSL are better options.
GSL have NTT/Telstra/Lumen plus SGIX + Equinix IX. they also have PNI with airtel & starhub.
in singapore, IX is important. asian eyeballs are there
Presence at IX is probably a little bit more important in Singapore as well, SGIX and Equinix SG both have basically every ISP in Asia there, so it’s much more efficient to peer directly there over using transit for Asian-bound traffic.
Host Universal has 100gps on Equinix Singapore and 10 gps on SGIX.
GSL has 400gps in Equinix SG and 100gps on SGIX.
CDN77/Datacamp has two times 400gps on Equinix Singapore plus four other IX (BBIX Singapore (100gps) and GNM-IX Singapore (100gbs), CSL-Thai IX Singapore (100gbs) and DE-CIX Asean Singapore (100gps).
Now I (as a layman in networks) would try to figure out if Host Universal (that has Datacamp/CDN77 as upstream) could use all those Datacamp IX connections as well.
(all IX conn data based on gpb.tools, you might want to re-check with peeringdb, but it's probably the same data.)
Hosthatch (in RackCentral) uses GSL, https://globalping.io/?measurement=IvMuifOjtOwmSq1R
Shockhosting (also in RacksCentral) uses Host Universal: https://globalping.io/?measurement=BeoIDcLvGipJIkdg
NTT, PCCW (basically asian cogent), Lumen especially are all very good. Can share rough pricing in PMs if interested, don't want to get my sales reps in trouble lol.
Yes PM is fine
Sent you PM..
GSL are pretty good for APAC region as well as NTT, dont bother with telstra.
Please think outside the box. For instance, Indian servers need not necessarily use Indian IP addresses; you could lease an IP/24 broadcast IP segment for use in Indian data centres.
If you possess sufficient resources and have this requirement, you could simply purchase an IP/24 or IP/23 block outright.
What are you saying? i mean how is it relevant to my query ?
Will LUMEN connect from America to Asia be better than Cogent and GTT?
FYI) According to their docs and peeringdb, they seem to be in Epsilon data center.
this is a good idea, looking forward to your new product
And the main website of HH says RacksCentral for SGP: https://hosthatch.com/features#datacenters (and Epsilon is also active as an transit provider in RacksCentral, afaik).
They're in Epsilon.
yeah, Lumen is probably the best way to reach APAC from the US (well besides cn2, etc).
So, we currently use PCCW, Telstra and SGIX in Singapore, hosted out of Equinix' excellent SG3 facility.
With our custom BGP mapping software, using these three providers, we can basically reach just about every ISP in the Asia Pacific region directly without suffering from unnecessary routing through Hong Kong or Los Angeles.
Without those three, however, things start breaking apart and you will see some traffic being directed to HK or LAX before coming back to Singapore for a network that is probably next door.
The only one we can't reach locally is NTT as they are very selective with their peering and do not peer directly with PCCW or Telstra or Cogent or basically anybody in Singapore. We do plan on adding them at some point in time but to only get NTT's peer routes and not full transit. We have some large clients requesting our presence in Japan, so we may upgrade to full transit from them in both Singapore and Japan. For now, reaching NTT from our network in Singapore involves LAX...
As for PCCW and Telstra... I can tell you that their support is not the best... twice we've lost light to PCCW, and after two weeks of back and forth (with them blaming us for the problem), each time, it turns out the issue was that their fiber SFP+ module had failed (which is what we told them from day one as we had tested our side). As for Telstra, trying to get someone with good knowledge to respond to a technical question requires an act of Congress. They will bounce you around, sometimes for a week or two...
Cogent does not have any good peering in the region. They aren't even trying to develop it. Twice we've given them a chance over the years, and the last time we tried them again (last year), we noticed everything still basically peered via the US. But they do have many clients in APAC, and you can connect to them and request to receive only Cogent direct routes instead of full transit.
Hurricane Electric however has built very good peering in APAC. And if you are connected via SGIX, you get access to reaching all of their clients without having to buy service directly from them. Their prices in APAC are quire good.
HE's support is also quite responsive and we've never had technical problems with HE at any of our other facilities.
We have thought of selling transit in APAC however... there seems to be a need for a good blended provider.
I hope this information helps a bit.
Thank you for sharing, it's always nice to hear real experiences from the industry and this will certainly help those who are getting into the business or building a new point of presence in APAC. Surprised to know that PCCW has poor support.
HE is surprisingly really well peered with many APAC eyeballs and networks with IX connection, except to the ones who refuse to freely peer to protect their profits and home market from competition (that is still quite a fair bit that HE will not be able to connect directly towards). Really ethical too - they have a large backbone network and any network who peers with them basically use their amazing backbone for free. I understand that they're 1G prices are really good, but I'm not sure how their 100G compares with the others.
NTT and Lumen I believe are working in cahoots to remain as APAC's expensive and "Premium" providers, they are able to access each other's networks directly AFAIK. They are also one of the very few networks who can reach major ISP Singapore Telecommunications (SingTel) directly without tromboning to LA or HK.
I've seen PCCW able to reach some NTT customers for some routes, so maybe they do have peering to some extent.