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  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @jnd said:

    @avsisp said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @gbzret4d said: a probe

    Already set up!

    Oh didn't know you already had one up lol

    We can setup a sponsored one also if they want? So that you aren't paying to run it mate.

    Btw - interesting results (to local Albanian ISPs):
    To Tele.co AL: https://globalping.io?measurement=Eq07IYLreJMmomfM
    To Vodafone: https://globalping.io?measurement=56hfupNbVgx7mX8S

    Too lazy to go find pingable IPs in other ISP ranges... but wow. Seems like we are lowest on everything in Albania :) If only we can get it even LOWER :)

    Would you mind sponsoring public NTP server for ntppool.org? It needs only minimal hardware resources and good conectivity within the country is what matters there.

    We already run personally the only NTP pool server in Albania... so no need to have someone else run that. It's ran directly by us...

    root@edge1-al:~# ping al.pool.ntp.org
    PING al.pool.ntp.org (23.133.204.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from rtr.avsisp.com (23.133.204.6): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.145 ms
    64 bytes from rtr.avsisp.com (23.133.204.6): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.186 ms
    ^C
    --- al.pool.ntp.org ping statistics ---
    2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.145/0.165/0.186/0.020 ms
    

    @avsisp maybe you should tell people the truth about your Albania location which is London tunneling and stop lying around that you have an albanian location! You are doing exactly the same Aeza did if not, then explain to me this, since i have a server with one.al ex. albtelecom and the ping ms reply is over 50ms:

    https://imgur.com/a/JAzh1K2

    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=46 time=68.872 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=49.686 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=57.573 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=50.078 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=48.691 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=49.461 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=50.416 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=7 ttl=46 time=50.055 ms

    From the traceroute you are somehow through Telekom/Beotel a Serbian ISP but if you do traceroute and ping from Serbia you will still get over 50ms ping reply.
    As such, i will tag @FAT32 @DP to check this as because lying and or manipulating with the community members is not allowed and considered a scam!

    When we are under constant DDoS, it goes over London because of DDoS Protection on huge pipes and XDP in London. Otherwise, it goes over a link to Serbia with about 8ms to cloudflare and really low pings to all of Albania. Not sure what you are on about - but you tested that DURING A DDOS.

    Are you serious? Do you really believe with your little brain that we buy your lies?! Even your Finland location it seems to be the same, fake Finland and tunnel to London, is that under attack too? From your screenshot of globalping.io you can clearly see the difference on ms ping was that under DDoS attack too?!

    We don't have a finland location - what are you talking about?

    We have LONDON and ALBANIA - that's it.

    I'm not sure where this whole attacking attitude came from - but we have several clients that can confirm we are indeed in Albania. Some even using NAT outbound over Local Alabnian ISPs like Vodafone Albania and Tele.co for some stuff that doesn't like our IPs for Geoblocks (because things like Netflix haven't updated it after asking 1000 times them to fix).

    We do have to tunnel in upstreams from other countries nearby - either via XC or tunnels - that is a KNOWN ISSUE with Albania. There aren't any Tier 1s here except Cogent which is only available if you pay the ATU extortion or HE over IXP in ANIX. We never have hid or lied about this fact. We even wrote a whole post about it that was expanded out here about how hard it is to be a host in Albania due to this. Most ISPs won't do BGP sessions and there just isn't a lot of choices here for this. Serbia is 6-8ms from us and is our MAIN upstream when everything is working properly.

    There is no DDoS protection on Serbian link or others, so there is no way for us to protect ourselves except under a DDoS to tunnel it in from our London node that has XDP and huge pipes for filtering. THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE. Most DDoS protection services do this exactly - under a DDoS they anycast or announce it from multiple locations with XDP filters and so on (scrubbers) which adds latency but keeps it online and clean.

    Why do you think this is an attack instead the truth? The fact is that you are lying about your Albania location which in reality is London tunnel, i am on the phone right now once home will show you with all the proofs that your "Albania" location is London.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @jnd said:

    @avsisp said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @gbzret4d said: a probe

    Already set up!

    Oh didn't know you already had one up lol

    We can setup a sponsored one also if they want? So that you aren't paying to run it mate.

    Btw - interesting results (to local Albanian ISPs):
    To Tele.co AL: https://globalping.io?measurement=Eq07IYLreJMmomfM
    To Vodafone: https://globalping.io?measurement=56hfupNbVgx7mX8S

    Too lazy to go find pingable IPs in other ISP ranges... but wow. Seems like we are lowest on everything in Albania :) If only we can get it even LOWER :)

    Would you mind sponsoring public NTP server for ntppool.org? It needs only minimal hardware resources and good conectivity within the country is what matters there.

    We already run personally the only NTP pool server in Albania... so no need to have someone else run that. It's ran directly by us...

    root@edge1-al:~# ping al.pool.ntp.org
    PING al.pool.ntp.org (23.133.204.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from rtr.avsisp.com (23.133.204.6): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.145 ms
    64 bytes from rtr.avsisp.com (23.133.204.6): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.186 ms
    ^C
    --- al.pool.ntp.org ping statistics ---
    2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.145/0.165/0.186/0.020 ms
    

    @avsisp maybe you should tell people the truth about your Albania location which is London tunneling and stop lying around that you have an albanian location! You are doing exactly the same Aeza did if not, then explain to me this, since i have a server with one.al ex. albtelecom and the ping ms reply is over 50ms:

    https://imgur.com/a/JAzh1K2

    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=46 time=68.872 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=49.686 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=57.573 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=50.078 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=48.691 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=49.461 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=50.416 ms
    64 bytes from 23.133.204.6: icmp_seq=7 ttl=46 time=50.055 ms

    From the traceroute you are somehow through Telekom/Beotel a Serbian ISP but if you do traceroute and ping from Serbia you will still get over 50ms ping reply.
    As such, i will tag @FAT32 @DP to check this as because lying and or manipulating with the community members is not allowed and considered a scam!

    When we are under constant DDoS, it goes over London because of DDoS Protection on huge pipes and XDP in London. Otherwise, it goes over a link to Serbia with about 8ms to cloudflare and really low pings to all of Albania. Not sure what you are on about - but you tested that DURING A DDOS.

    Are you serious? Do you really believe with your little brain that we buy your lies?! Even your Finland location it seems to be the same, fake Finland and tunnel to London, is that under attack too? From your screenshot of globalping.io you can clearly see the difference on ms ping was that under DDoS attack too?!

    We don't have a finland location - what are you talking about?

    We have LONDON and ALBANIA - that's it.

    I'm not sure where this whole attacking attitude came from - but we have several clients that can confirm we are indeed in Albania. Some even using NAT outbound over Local Alabnian ISPs like Vodafone Albania and Tele.co for some stuff that doesn't like our IPs for Geoblocks (because things like Netflix haven't updated it after asking 1000 times them to fix).

    We do have to tunnel in upstreams from other countries nearby - either via XC or tunnels - that is a KNOWN ISSUE with Albania. There aren't any Tier 1s here except Cogent which is only available if you pay the ATU extortion or HE over IXP in ANIX. We never have hid or lied about this fact. We even wrote a whole post about it that was expanded out here about how hard it is to be a host in Albania due to this. Most ISPs won't do BGP sessions and there just isn't a lot of choices here for this. Serbia is 6-8ms from us and is our MAIN upstream when everything is working properly.

    There is no DDoS protection on Serbian link or others, so there is no way for us to protect ourselves except under a DDoS to tunnel it in from our London node that has XDP and huge pipes for filtering. THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE. Most DDoS protection services do this exactly - under a DDoS they anycast or announce it from multiple locations with XDP filters and so on (scrubbers) which adds latency but keeps it online and clean.

    Why do you think this is an attack instead the truth? The fact is that you are lying about your Albania location which in reality is London tunnel, i am on the phone right now once home will show you with all the proofs that your "Albania" location is London.

    Albania location IS NOT in London. We didn't even have London Location when we started and everyone that ordered then are still on same server, so how is it magically in London now?

    You're not making any sense buddy. We ARE IN ALBANIA - 100%. We have 2 servers. 1 in Albania - 1 in London. That simple.

    If during DDoS, we have to tunnel over London to filter it, that doesn't magically make the Server in London - it makes the connection to Albania come over London to get filtered...

  • zedzed Member

    Well this got interesting!

  • @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

  • @iceman said: i am on the phone right now once home will show you with all the proofs that your "Albania" location is London.

    Are you still on your phone?

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @iceman said: i am on the phone right now once home will show you with all the proofs that your "Albania" location is London.

    Are you still on your phone?

    I am in holidays so, don't expect sleeping in LET like you :)

  • Phone, holiday, boyfriend, mother-in-law...stories, stories)

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

    Oh slow child. That probe is from one of our IPs, aka it goes over our Upstream -- beotel serbia at the border. So it goes us -> ATU -> Cogent XC to border -> Beotel at the border (border gateway POP) -> back into Albania.

    How about I throw up a few VMs with direct connections NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs for you if you wanna test that B.S.?

  • alfatarsosalfatarsos Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2025

    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • icemaniceman Member
    edited August 2025

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

    Oh slow child. That probe is from one of our IPs, aka it goes over our Upstream -- beotel serbia at the border. So it goes us -> ATU -> Cogent XC to border -> Beotel at the border (border gateway POP) -> back into Albania.

    How about I throw up a few VMs with direct connections NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs for you if you wanna test that B.S.?

    I may be a child but not a manipulator, you can throw and manipulate whatever you want but not me. As said im assuming its M247 Belgrade location as it can be seen from your second hop in your first probe but deffo not Albania. In which you can clearly see that from your ASN in bgp.tools that the upstream is Beotel/Serbia!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

    Oh slow child. That probe is from one of our IPs, aka it goes over our Upstream -- beotel serbia at the border. So it goes us -> ATU -> Cogent XC to border -> Beotel at the border (border gateway POP) -> back into Albania.

    How about I throw up a few VMs with direct connections NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs for you if you wanna test that B.S.?

    I may be a child but not a manipulator, you can throw and manipulate whatever you want but not me. As said im assuming its M247 Belgrade location as it can be seen from your second hop in your first probe but deffo not Albania.

    We will see now. Throwing up a lg that uses local Vodafone Albania connection now.

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

    Oh slow child. That probe is from one of our IPs, aka it goes over our Upstream -- beotel serbia at the border. So it goes us -> ATU -> Cogent XC to border -> Beotel at the border (border gateway POP) -> back into Albania.

    How about I throw up a few VMs with direct connections NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs for you if you wanna test that B.S.?

    I may be a child but not a manipulator, you can throw and manipulate whatever you want but not me. As said im assuming its M247 Belgrade location as it can be seen from your second hop in your first probe but deffo not Albania.

    We will see now. Throwing up a lg that uses local Vodafone Albania connection now.

    Yeah keep throwing your lies, you are simply on NO-GO list never ever and i am a customer of alot of providers here on LET!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:
    @avsisp are you still under attack right? :)

    What do you mean? Everything is flowing back to normal at the moment. Nothing is announcing to London over Albania ATM. During attacks only it does.

    See the following traces as an example:

    root@anushka:~# traceroute 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  62.108.111.** (62.108.111.**)  9.011 ms  9.126 ms  9.193 ms
     2  bg-tp-asr9k.beotel.net (194.106.168.20)  9.185 ms  10.556 ms  10.532 ms
     3  cloudflare.sox.rs (185.1.27.61)  9.475 ms  9.475 ms  9.426 ms
     4  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  8.788 ms  8.764 ms  8.770 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.0.252 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  0.468 ms  0.457 ms  0.449 ms
     2  10.10.0.1 (10.10.0.1)  1.844 ms  1.843 ms  1.822 ms
     3  80.78.64.66 (80.78.64.66)  2.666 ms  2.662 ms  2.653 ms
     4  10.34.101.50 (10.34.101.50)  3.867 ms  3.847 ms  4.170 ms
     5  10.34.101.51 (10.34.101.51)  3.428 ms  3.762 ms  3.409 ms
     6  ae39-100-xcr1.sof.cw.net (195.2.25.133)  10.225 ms  9.192 ms  9.675 ms
     7  162.158.208.10 (162.158.208.10)  25.859 ms  25.869 ms  25.850 ms
     8  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  9.547 ms  9.552 ms  9.532 ms
    root@anushka:~# traceroute --source=192.168.1.217 1.1.1.1
    traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.384 ms  0.355 ms  0.431 ms
     2  192.168.255.1 (192.168.255.1)  1.858 ms  1.924 ms  1.854 ms
     3  77.247.88.129 (77.247.88.129)  5.248 ms  1.868 ms  5.918 ms
     4  185.89.157.1 (185.89.157.1)  2.805 ms  2.239 ms  2.664 ms
     5  213.39.24.177 (213.39.24.177)  35.631 ms  35.572 ms  35.644 ms
     6  ae5.cr6-mil2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.138.166)  22.614 ms  22.820 ms  22.741 ms
     7  ip4.gtt.net (92.60.249.110)  27.440 ms  27.447 ms  27.680 ms
     8  188.114.100.35 (188.114.100.35)  27.031 ms  28.021 ms 188.114.100.21 (188.114.100.21)  28.136 ms
     9  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  27.129 ms  27.524 ms  27.797 ms
    

    Hopefully that kills the obsessions with thinking we aren't in Albania also - those are 2 different Albanian ISP traces direct from our server. And no - traces aren't "doctored" or anything. Straight copy paste - only reason I did change first hops last digit (rest is same) to ** is to avoid someone ddosing it just to force us back over London for ANOTHER day.

    Also - anyone that wants it - we actually have the ability to give direct NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs that we have connected up to server like that --- so there is that if anyone just asks and are on Albania we can give direct outbound NAT v4 ports to Vodafone and Tele.co.

    Also I guess those traces prove what we've been saying from the start - that Albanian ISPs even go out to other countries because of bad peeing here and no T1s. See the first 1 (Vodafone) goes to Sofia to get to Cloudflare. Second one (Teleco) goes to Milano (Italy) to get to GTT -> Cloudflare. Which is hilarious because Cloudflare has ports in ANIX.

    Its not hilarious it is clear that you aren't in Albania even with fake Albania it doesn't make sense all your traceroutes.

    They do peer together even if not directy indirectly you won't get more than 10ms ping between them. Hereby is my server ping reply its one.al to 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1

    while you modified the ms replies, you forgot your probe here:

    https://bgp.he.net/ip/23.133.204.6#_traceroute

    type 77.247.88.129 and 185.89.157.1 and you will get 17-20 ms latency!

    One.al to 77.247.88.129:
    https://imgur.com/a/XSHSaW8

    One.al to 185.89.157.1:

    https://imgur.com/a/XK4QJ2R

    one.al to your "Albania":

    https://imgur.com/a/Z0fIClM

    Last time i did checked the ping it was just like now you said you were under "attack" and it was routed to London, now you're not in "attack" anymore and not routed to London but the ping remains the same. Whatever is that M247 or not i am not sure, but you are deffo not in Albania!

    My point still stand, you are lying/manipulating with the community!

    Oh slow child. That probe is from one of our IPs, aka it goes over our Upstream -- beotel serbia at the border. So it goes us -> ATU -> Cogent XC to border -> Beotel at the border (border gateway POP) -> back into Albania.

    How about I throw up a few VMs with direct connections NAT outbound to Albanian ISPs for you if you wanna test that B.S.?

    I may be a child but not a manipulator, you can throw and manipulate whatever you want but not me. As said im assuming its M247 Belgrade location as it can be seen from your second hop in your first probe but deffo not Albania.

    We will see now. Throwing up a lg that uses local Vodafone Albania connection now.

    Yeah keep throwing your lies, you are simply on NO-GO list never ever and i am a customer of alot of providers here on LET!

    Here you go - explain this then?
    http://23.133.204.253/

    traceroute from it... default goes out over Vodafone Albania locally... it has 2 IPs on it - the Vodafone one and one of ours. And magic? Traces out from Vodafone.. wow... so we do have Vodafone Albania locally huh? What does that mean? Oh yeah - we ARE IN ALBANIA PHYSICALLY.

    Would you like me to spin one up for One Albania? Or Tele.Co?

    Here the network config incase you are curious:
    Ifconfig:

    root@ping:/var/www/html# ifconfig
    eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
            inet 192.168.0.249  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.0.255
            inet6 fe80::be24:11ff:feae:49c2  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
            ether bc:24:11:ae:49:c2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
            RX packets 12105  bytes 84010258 (80.1 MiB)
            RX errors 0  dropped 12  overruns 0  frame 0
            TX packets 11075  bytes 755892 (738.1 KiB)
            TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
    
    eth1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 9000
            inet 23.133.204.253  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 23.133.204.255
            inet6 fe80::be24:11ff:fe53:733f  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
            ether bc:24:11:53:73:3f  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
            RX packets 25852  bytes 1153636 (1.1 MiB)
            RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
            TX packets 155  bytes 20894 (20.4 KiB)
            TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
    
    lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 65536
            inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
            inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10<host>
            loop  txqueuelen 1000  (Local Loopback)
            RX packets 4  bytes 448 (448.0 B)
            RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
            TX packets 4  bytes 448 (448.0 B)
            TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
    

    IP rules and routes:

    root@ping:/var/www/html# ip -4 rule
    0:      from all lookup local
    32765:  from 23.133.204.0/24 lookup 123
    32766:  from all lookup main
    32767:  from all lookup default
    root@ping:/var/www/html# ip -4 route
    default via 192.168.0.4 dev eth0 onlink 
    23.133.204.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 23.133.204.253 
    192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.249 
    root@ping:/var/www/html# ip -4 route show table 123
    default via 23.133.204.254 dev eth1 
    root@ping:/var/www/html# 
    

    So your next line??? Please do tell me now ... how did we "fake" that huh?

  • @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

    Yeah - Albanian ISPs have LOTS of upstreams in neighboring countries. They also all have POPs in those countries. We get to Beotel in Serbia AT THE BORDER over Cogent XC that runs through ATU's datacenter.

    I'm not sure what has your panties in a bunch about this - we are inside Albania. We have upstreams in SEVERAL surrounding countries. We found Serbia to be the LOWEST possible ping to both Albanian ISPs and foreign countries. So that's why we stuck with it.

    We also have Italy available for example - that we used to use mostly - but 30+ms latency to Italy was just not the best. We still keep it as our backup even... one of them.

    The reason you won't see Vodafone for example show them as an Upstream is because Vodafone doesn't peer with their local Albanian ASN - they peer under their global one - so it goes Vodafone Albania -> Vodafone Global ASN -> Their real peering... This is like that in most of Vodafone's countries they are in...

    Can you really still continue to sit here and argue that after I literally put up a public Looking Glass page that it going out over Vodafone - including showing ALL hops from our NAT IP to their Gateway and out in like 60 seconds or something?

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

    Yeah - Albanian ISPs have LOTS of upstreams in neighboring countries. They also all have POPs in those countries. We get to Beotel in Serbia AT THE BORDER over Cogent XC that runs through ATU's datacenter.

    I'm not sure what has your panties in a bunch about this - we are inside Albania. We have upstreams in SEVERAL surrounding countries. We found Serbia to be the LOWEST possible ping to both Albanian ISPs and foreign countries. So that's why we stuck with it.

    We also have Italy available for example - that we used to use mostly - but 30+ms latency to Italy was just not the best. We still keep it as our backup even... one of them.

    The reason you won't see Vodafone for example show them as an Upstream is because Vodafone doesn't peer with their local Albanian ASN - they peer under their global one - so it goes Vodafone Albania -> Vodafone Global ASN -> Their real peering... This is like that in most of Vodafone's countries they are in...

    Can you really still continue to sit here and argue that after I literally put up a public Looking Glass page that it going out over Vodafone - including showing ALL hops from our NAT IP to their Gateway and out in like 60 seconds or something?

    I will continue and on every of your post will point that out that its Serbia and not Albania location, you can check check-host.net 23.133.204.6 Belgrade 9ms, lg.sox.rs same and so on. So keep lying as much as you can.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

    Yeah - Albanian ISPs have LOTS of upstreams in neighboring countries. They also all have POPs in those countries. We get to Beotel in Serbia AT THE BORDER over Cogent XC that runs through ATU's datacenter.

    I'm not sure what has your panties in a bunch about this - we are inside Albania. We have upstreams in SEVERAL surrounding countries. We found Serbia to be the LOWEST possible ping to both Albanian ISPs and foreign countries. So that's why we stuck with it.

    We also have Italy available for example - that we used to use mostly - but 30+ms latency to Italy was just not the best. We still keep it as our backup even... one of them.

    The reason you won't see Vodafone for example show them as an Upstream is because Vodafone doesn't peer with their local Albanian ASN - they peer under their global one - so it goes Vodafone Albania -> Vodafone Global ASN -> Their real peering... This is like that in most of Vodafone's countries they are in...

    Can you really still continue to sit here and argue that after I literally put up a public Looking Glass page that it going out over Vodafone - including showing ALL hops from our NAT IP to their Gateway and out in like 60 seconds or something?

    I will continue and on every of your post will point that out that its Serbia and not Albania location, you can check check-host.net 23.133.204.6 Belgrade 9ms, lg.sox.rs same and so on. So keep lying as much as you can.

    Buddy - I'm not gonna argue with you. Yes - we are peered to a Serbian ISP as an Upstream at the border of Albania and Serbia - does that make us in Serbia? No - we have 7m to our own upstream. First hop is 7ms away. Do you think it takes 7ms if we are in their datacenter? Should I publish the agreement with them here for you to read it yourself? Should I show you the traces to them from our local lines to their POP so you can match up the trace times mr. detective?

    I'm not sure why you would care - and I'm really done defending when I've given more than enough proof. So please - carry on with your day and leave us alone. Thanks.

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

    Yeah - Albanian ISPs have LOTS of upstreams in neighboring countries. They also all have POPs in those countries. We get to Beotel in Serbia AT THE BORDER over Cogent XC that runs through ATU's datacenter.

    I'm not sure what has your panties in a bunch about this - we are inside Albania. We have upstreams in SEVERAL surrounding countries. We found Serbia to be the LOWEST possible ping to both Albanian ISPs and foreign countries. So that's why we stuck with it.

    We also have Italy available for example - that we used to use mostly - but 30+ms latency to Italy was just not the best. We still keep it as our backup even... one of them.

    The reason you won't see Vodafone for example show them as an Upstream is because Vodafone doesn't peer with their local Albanian ASN - they peer under their global one - so it goes Vodafone Albania -> Vodafone Global ASN -> Their real peering... This is like that in most of Vodafone's countries they are in...

    Can you really still continue to sit here and argue that after I literally put up a public Looking Glass page that it going out over Vodafone - including showing ALL hops from our NAT IP to their Gateway and out in like 60 seconds or something?

    I will continue and on every of your post will point that out that its Serbia and not Albania location, you can check check-host.net 23.133.204.6 Belgrade 9ms, lg.sox.rs same and so on. So keep lying as much as you can.

    Buddy - I'm not gonna argue with you. Yes - we are peered to a Serbian ISP as an Upstream at the border of Albania and Serbia - does that make us in Serbia? No - we have 7m to our own upstream. First hop is 7ms away. Do you think it takes 7ms if we are in their datacenter? Should I publish the agreement with them here for you to read it yourself? Should I show you the traces to them from our local lines to their POP so you can match up the trace times mr. detective?

    I'm not sure why you would care - and I'm really done defending when I've given more than enough proof. So please - carry on with your day and leave us alone. Thanks.

    7ms in Serbia yes, one.al Albania 50-60 ms you can check the screenshots i provided. Keep lying!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

    iregister.al is not in Albania -- read their website yourself - it's "Geo Albania".
    https://members.iregister.al/store/dedicated-servers-geo-albania
    https://members.iregister.al/store/vps-albania

    They are part of Keminet which still has some pops here for peering, does some downstreaming and stuff here, etc for transit and all - but doesn't host here...

    Not sure why you are on the attack all the sudden on all this - but let's be honest - more than enough evidence here that WE ARE INSIDE OF ALBANIA.

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @alfatarsos said:
    17-20ms to London from Albania is impossible. That is the ping between London and... Berlin.

    https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Berlin/London

    Berlin - Tirana is 1335km.

    In perfect aka direct conditions, Albania - London would render a ping around 35ms. Not 17-20ms.

    But currently it's even 50ms.

    The provider is correct.

    Whatever it is it is not Albania, you can check on bgp.tools not a single ISP in Albania has Beotel/Serbia but the subnet he use to fake pretending to be Albania his upstream is Beotel Serbia thus explains the 5-10 ms latency in Serbia.

    Yeah - Albanian ISPs have LOTS of upstreams in neighboring countries. They also all have POPs in those countries. We get to Beotel in Serbia AT THE BORDER over Cogent XC that runs through ATU's datacenter.

    I'm not sure what has your panties in a bunch about this - we are inside Albania. We have upstreams in SEVERAL surrounding countries. We found Serbia to be the LOWEST possible ping to both Albanian ISPs and foreign countries. So that's why we stuck with it.

    We also have Italy available for example - that we used to use mostly - but 30+ms latency to Italy was just not the best. We still keep it as our backup even... one of them.

    The reason you won't see Vodafone for example show them as an Upstream is because Vodafone doesn't peer with their local Albanian ASN - they peer under their global one - so it goes Vodafone Albania -> Vodafone Global ASN -> Their real peering... This is like that in most of Vodafone's countries they are in...

    Can you really still continue to sit here and argue that after I literally put up a public Looking Glass page that it going out over Vodafone - including showing ALL hops from our NAT IP to their Gateway and out in like 60 seconds or something?

    I will continue and on every of your post will point that out that its Serbia and not Albania location, you can check check-host.net 23.133.204.6 Belgrade 9ms, lg.sox.rs same and so on. So keep lying as much as you can.

    Buddy - I'm not gonna argue with you. Yes - we are peered to a Serbian ISP as an Upstream at the border of Albania and Serbia - does that make us in Serbia? No - we have 7m to our own upstream. First hop is 7ms away. Do you think it takes 7ms if we are in their datacenter? Should I publish the agreement with them here for you to read it yourself? Should I show you the traces to them from our local lines to their POP so you can match up the trace times mr. detective?

    I'm not sure why you would care - and I'm really done defending when I've given more than enough proof. So please - carry on with your day and leave us alone. Thanks.

    7ms in Serbia yes, one.al Albania 50-60 ms you can check the screenshots i provided. Keep lying!

    One yes, the line to them isn't over One. It's over COGENT.

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

    iregister.al is not in Albania -- read their website yourself - it's "Geo Albania".
    https://members.iregister.al/store/dedicated-servers-geo-albania
    https://members.iregister.al/store/vps-albania

    They are part of Keminet which still has some pops here for peering, does some downstreaming and stuff here, etc for transit and all - but doesn't host here...

    Not sure why you are on the attack all the sudden on all this - but let's be honest - more than enough evidence here that WE ARE INSIDE OF ALBANIA.

    Keminet has Geo and Albania you can ask them they can route you! Why do you think this is an attack for bringing up your lies? You are not in Albania instead Serbia period, just don't lie and i will disappear very simple!

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

    iregister.al is not in Albania -- read their website yourself - it's "Geo Albania".
    https://members.iregister.al/store/dedicated-servers-geo-albania
    https://members.iregister.al/store/vps-albania

    They are part of Keminet which still has some pops here for peering, does some downstreaming and stuff here, etc for transit and all - but doesn't host here...

    Not sure why you are on the attack all the sudden on all this - but let's be honest - more than enough evidence here that WE ARE INSIDE OF ALBANIA.

    Keminet has Geo and Albania you can ask them they can route you! Why do you think this is an attack for bringing up your lies? You are not in Albania instead Serbia period, just don't lie and i will disappear very simple!

    Stop asking us to lie !!! - We aren't in Serbia. We are INSIDE ALBANIA. Why would we lie about that? That's dumb 1. And 2, we OFFER NAT OUTBOUND PORTS TO ALBANIAN DIRECTLY CONNECTED ISPS. You aren't making any sense. I know all this attack from you started EXACTLY after a certain "Geo Albania" host started attacking us - so doesn't seem a coincidence to me - so please stop trolling.

  • @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

    iregister.al is not in Albania -- read their website yourself - it's "Geo Albania".
    https://members.iregister.al/store/dedicated-servers-geo-albania
    https://members.iregister.al/store/vps-albania

    They are part of Keminet which still has some pops here for peering, does some downstreaming and stuff here, etc for transit and all - but doesn't host here...

    Not sure why you are on the attack all the sudden on all this - but let's be honest - more than enough evidence here that WE ARE INSIDE OF ALBANIA.

    Keminet has Geo and Albania you can ask them they can route you! Why do you think this is an attack for bringing up your lies? You are not in Albania instead Serbia period, just don't lie and i will disappear very simple!

    Stop asking us to lie !!! - We aren't in Serbia. We are INSIDE ALBANIA. Why would we lie about that? That's dumb 1. And 2, we OFFER NAT OUTBOUND PORTS TO ALBANIAN DIRECTLY CONNECTED ISPS. You aren't making any sense. I know all this attack from you started EXACTLY after a certain "Geo Albania" host started attacking us - so doesn't seem a coincidence to me - so please stop trolling.

    Wut? what Geo Albania host are you talking about? What i am saying is that 5-10ms latency in Serbia and 50-60ms in Albania is not Albania what is here not clear?

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:

    @iceman said:

    @avsisp said:
    Also forgot to mention @gbzret4d if you'd like a Vodafone or Tele.co or One AL probe for Albania, we can through you some NAT outbound to them if you want it?

    Beotel/Serbia a.k.a Albania location. There are two who provide Albania location host.al and iregister all others are just manipulators simple as that.

    iregister.al is not in Albania -- read their website yourself - it's "Geo Albania".
    https://members.iregister.al/store/dedicated-servers-geo-albania
    https://members.iregister.al/store/vps-albania

    They are part of Keminet which still has some pops here for peering, does some downstreaming and stuff here, etc for transit and all - but doesn't host here...

    Not sure why you are on the attack all the sudden on all this - but let's be honest - more than enough evidence here that WE ARE INSIDE OF ALBANIA.

    Keminet has Geo and Albania you can ask them they can route you! Why do you think this is an attack for bringing up your lies? You are not in Albania instead Serbia period, just don't lie and i will disappear very simple!

    Stop asking us to lie !!! - We aren't in Serbia. We are INSIDE ALBANIA. Why would we lie about that? That's dumb 1. And 2, we OFFER NAT OUTBOUND PORTS TO ALBANIAN DIRECTLY CONNECTED ISPS. You aren't making any sense. I know all this attack from you started EXACTLY after a certain "Geo Albania" host started attacking us - so doesn't seem a coincidence to me - so please stop trolling.

    Wut? what Geo Albania host are you talking about? What i am saying is that 5-10ms latency in Serbia and 50-60ms in Albania is not Albania what is here not clear?

    We don't have 50-60ms to Albania. Have you even checked the globalping.io results? We are the lowest to every single Albanian ISP...

  • I have one vps from them and I never doubted it that they arent located in albania. There are others that are not located in Albania.

    Thanked by 1avsisp
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @gbzret4d said:
    I have one vps from them and I never doubted it that they arent located in albania. There are others that are not located in Albania.

    Mate - sorry for the drama here. But forgot to tell you we can give you some local ISPs on VMs too so that you can have traces from them too. Send me an email and I'll get you another VM with outbound over local ISP so that people can have local Albanian ISPs if you'd like (Vodafone for example).

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
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