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Non-Profit usage for idling servers

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  • @default said: global-rate

    Yes, I use -global-rate XXX -per-session-rate XXX. I have got a script which asks for the bandwidth available per month and automatically calculates the necessary digits for those variables.

    Thanked by 2default oloke
  • What about profit but zero effort uses for idlers?

  • jndjnd Member

    @barbarza said:
    What about profit but zero effort uses for idlers?

    If it were that simple the providers would run it themselves and don't sell so cheaply.

  • ralfralf Member

    @barbarza said:
    What about profit but zero effort uses for idlers?

    Then it wouldn't be an idle chicken, it'd be an investment.

  • I2P outproxy
    Hentai@Home :D

  • @Marisa said:
    I2P outproxy

    This would be problematic. It is like Tor Exit Nodes from what I read - many providers don't accept this.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • @jnd said: That was case some 10+ years ago with old ntpd version, isn't it? Chrony and other modern versions don't have such vulnerability.

    Oh I just looked it up and you are right. Now I'm interested. How do I contribute?

  • jndjnd Member

    @Protocol903 said:

    @jnd said: That was case some 10+ years ago with old ntpd version, isn't it? Chrony and other modern versions don't have such vulnerability.

    Oh I just looked it up and you are right. Now I'm interested. How do I contribute?

    Go to https://www.ntppool.org, register account and you can start adding your servers. Their guide is now outdated but it's still simple: install ntp daemon (I recommend chrony), edit the config to allow serving external connections, set up some upstream time sources, restart it and that's about it.

  • @jnd said:

    @Protocol903 said:

    @jnd said: That was case some 10+ years ago with old ntpd version, isn't it? Chrony and other modern versions don't have such vulnerability.

    Oh I just looked it up and you are right. Now I'm interested. How do I contribute?

    Go to https://www.ntppool.org, register account and you can start adding your servers. Their guide is now outdated but it's still simple: install ntp daemon (I recommend chrony), edit the config to allow serving external connections, set up some upstream time sources, restart it and that's about it.

    Interesting idea. Just need a guide to follow on how to set it up

  • @jnd said: Go to https://www.ntppool.org, register account and you can start adding your servers. Their guide is now outdated but it's still simple: install ntp daemon (I recommend chrony), edit the config to allow serving external connections, set up some upstream time sources, restart it and that's about it.

    Wait so... will this put my vps in the pool? how will it work?
    how will others discover my vps?

  • muppmupp Member

    @Protocol903 said:

    @jnd said: Go to https://www.ntppool.org, register account and you can start adding your servers. Their guide is now outdated but it's still simple: install ntp daemon (I recommend chrony), edit the config to allow serving external connections, set up some upstream time sources, restart it and that's about it.

    Wait so... will this put my vps in the pool? how will it work?
    how will others discover my vps?

    Yes, when you server get a higher availability score it will be included in the pool (max score is 20 and servers with a score of 10 or higher is included). Others will discover your server once it's included in the pool and when they use any of the pool servers, like pool.ntp.org, 0.europe.pool.ntp.org or 1.north-america.pool.ntp.org for example.

  • muppmupp Member

    @wii747 said:

    @jnd said:

    @Protocol903 said:

    @jnd said: That was case some 10+ years ago with old ntpd version, isn't it? Chrony and other modern versions don't have such vulnerability.

    Oh I just looked it up and you are right. Now I'm interested. How do I contribute?

    Go to https://www.ntppool.org, register account and you can start adding your servers. Their guide is now outdated but it's still simple: install ntp daemon (I recommend chrony), edit the config to allow serving external connections, set up some upstream time sources, restart it and that's about it.

    Interesting idea. Just need a guide to follow on how to set it up

    Quick guide using a debian/ubuntu server:

    1. Install chrony:
      sudo apt install chrony

    2. Edit the /etc/chrony/chrony.conf file and set your time servers (should not be servers from the ntp.org pool according to the documentation).

    3. add the following the same config file to allow ntp requests.
      allow all

    4. Enable chrony, and restart it after you've changed the config file.
      sudo systemctl enable chrony && sudo systemctl restart chrony

    5. Open port 123/udp in your firewall. Like this if you're using ufw:
      sudo ufw allow 123/udp

    Test the configuration from another server or a Ubuntu based desktop with the following:
    sudo apt install ntpdate

    Query your your NTP server with: ntpdate -q ip-address-or-hostname and see if you get an answer. Add the server to the pool and wait for it to be included in the pool.

    Done!

    Thanked by 3jnd mandala vicaya
  • Finally, I must emphasize that joining the pool is a long term commitment. We are happy to take you out of the pool again if your circumstances change, but because of how the NTP clients operate it will take weeks, months or even YEARS before the traffic completely goes away. From https://www.ntppool.org/en/join.html

    Run anti censorship proxy's

  • @kedihacker said:

    Finally, I must emphasize that joining the pool is a long term commitment. We are happy to take you out of the pool again if your circumstances change, but because of how the NTP clients operate it will take weeks, months or even YEARS before the traffic completely goes away. From https://www.ntppool.org/en/join.html

    Run anti censorship proxy's

    You mean I2P or Freenet or the likes?

  • @default said:

    @kedihacker said:

    Finally, I must emphasize that joining the pool is a long term commitment. We are happy to take you out of the pool again if your circumstances change, but because of how the NTP clients operate it will take weeks, months or even YEARS before the traffic completely goes away. From https://www.ntppool.org/en/join.html

    Run anti censorship proxy's

    You mean I2P or Freenet or the likes?

    Tor bridge signal telegram proxy whatever you want

  • @mupp said: Test the configuration from another server or a Ubuntu based desktop with the following:

    Thanks, chad. A mix of chatgpt and your tutorial, I put my oracle free tier server for my region out there. It isn't US/EU so it should get ok amount of traffic. I've set bandwidth to 100mbit/sec(even tho server can do "4Gbps").

    How long till I get 10 scores+?

  • NanoG6NanoG6 Member
    edited August 2025

    For those who are new to the NTP pool, don't forget to set the maximum bandwidth, because if you don't (especially if your server is in an exotic location), bandwidth usage will reach terabytes in just a few weeks.

    Thanked by 2Xrmaddness mandala
  • how would one donate BW for i2p but scheduled to the hours one would be sleeping? I am running a few dockers of services for myself and family

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @supple said:
    how would one donate BW for i2p but scheduled to the hours one would be sleeping? I am running a few dockers of services for myself and family

    The easiest (but clumsy) way is via cronjob I think.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • @supple said:
    how would one donate BW for i2p but scheduled to the hours one would be sleeping? I am running a few dockers of services for myself and family

    Simply create a script to start it, and another to stop it. Run the script to start it when you go to sleep, then when you wake up, run the script to stop it.

    You could go with running those same scripts in cronjob as mentioned by tentor, but what if you drink some extra coffee, or what if you go to sleep later due to extra work?

    Thanked by 1oloke
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