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Is HostDZire Sustainable?

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  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @zed said:
    You sure are getting a ton of extra bonus advertisement recently @HostDZire grats!

  • @mashaofei said:
    Everyone can ping or test this VPS.
    IP: 142.91.106.47
    I want to end this thread. This company is... telling lies.

    Dude, you say you want to end this topic then say the company is telling lies and attack back.

    Thanked by 2evBread JohnnySac
  • @barbaros said:

    @mashaofei said:
    Everyone can ping or test this VPS.
    IP: 142.91.106.47
    I want to end this thread. This company is... telling lies.

    Dude, you say you want to end this topic then say the company is telling lies and attack back.

    HostDZire said I broke the IP and asked to change it, but I just wanted to change it, everything is normal, there is no problem with the network. It just doesn't work for me.

    If HostDZire didn't say anything false, I wouldn't reply anymore. Everything is answered.

  • Let this all end, I'm going to look for other sellers to buy new servers

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @mashaofei said:

    @barbaros said:

    @mashaofei said:
    Everyone can ping or test this VPS.
    IP: 142.91.106.47
    I want to end this thread. This company is... telling lies.

    Dude, you say you want to end this topic then say the company is telling lies and attack back.

    HostDZire said I broke the IP and asked to change it, but I just wanted to change it, everything is normal, there is no problem with the network. It just doesn't work for me.

    If HostDZire didn't say anything false, I wouldn't reply anymore. Everything is answered.

    Okay sorry for that.
    I really don't know why you wanted to change.
    I made a basic assumption. and also tried to inform you about rules too.
    I take it back..

  • @jsg said:
    I disagree. I chose the @HostDZire India VPS because all considered it serves me better than a SGP VPS.

    You never really explain how it's better, so there's nothing to argue here because it's just an opinion that's not based on any metrics. My point is, other than price, there's nothing that makes India vps "better" for a non-Indian market.

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    I disagree. I chose the @HostDZire India VPS because all considered it serves me better than a SGP VPS.

    You never really explain how it's better, so there's nothing to argue here because it's just an opinion that's not based on any metrics. My point is, other than price, there's nothing that makes India vps "better" for a non-Indian market.

    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    Many neighbouring country will choose india if price is similar to singapore.
    So market is not bad at all.
    Even if no other countries users buy it, india alone is a big market.

    Thanked by 2jsg JohnnySac
  • @HostDZire said:
    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    If your market is specifically east africa and southwest asia, then yes India is a good center to put your vps in. This is highly unlikely as Africans/Arabs and Oriental Asians have little in common as a market. so it's theoretical but not practical.

  • navneetkknavneetkk Member
    edited August 2025

    I love both locations 😅

    Thanked by 1HostDZire
  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    If your market is specifically east africa and southwest asia, then yes India is a good center to put your vps in. This is highly unlikely as Africans/Arabs and Oriental Asians have little in common as a market. so it's theoretical but not practical.

    Any customer who has good latency to india will order it.
    Even i dont know who will.
    If we from india can order EU servers, and manage in that, about 130 to 170ms.
    Then i think within 100ms latency we already have big market.

    Thanked by 2navneetkk nghialele
  • @HostDZire said:
    Any customer who has good latency to india will order it.
    Even i dont know who will.
    If we from india can order EU servers, and manage in that, about 130 to 170ms.
    Then i think within 100ms latency we already have big market.

    That's actually my point. :smile: India to anywhere in Asia or Europe is at least 80ms away. Indians have no choice so they buy vps from Asia and Europe. But Asians and Europeans don't need to buy vps in India-- they just buy one in Frankfurt or Singapore.

    Now if you're talking about "exotic" places like Myanmar and Oman, then no argument there.

    Thanked by 1onewater
  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Any customer who has good latency to india will order it.
    Even i dont know who will.
    If we from india can order EU servers, and manage in that, about 130 to 170ms.
    Then i think within 100ms latency we already have big market.

    That's actually my point. :smile: India to anywhere in Asia or Europe is at least 80ms away. Indians have no choice so they buy vps from Asia and Europe. But Asians and Europeans don't need to buy vps in India-- they just buy one in Frankfurt or Singapore.

    Now if you're talking about "exotic" places like Myanmar and Oman, then no argument there.

    Not Europeans
    But Asians do have reason to buy.
    As I said I am not targetting Europeans.
    We already have netherlands server for that..

  • @HostDZire said:
    But Asians do have reason to buy.

    Price. That's the only reason. If price is the same, give me one reason why someone in Vietnam would buy a vps in India instead of Singapore. I bet 90% of your India vps buyers from outside India will be idling their vps. They're hoarders and hobbyists.

    Thanked by 1onewater
  • @HostDZire said:

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Any customer who has good latency to india will order it.
    Even i dont know who will.
    If we from india can order EU servers, and manage in that, about 130 to 170ms.
    Then i think within 100ms latency we already have big market.

    That's actually my point. :smile: India to anywhere in Asia or Europe is at least 80ms away. Indians have no choice so they buy vps from Asia and Europe. But Asians and Europeans don't need to buy vps in India-- they just buy one in Frankfurt or Singapore.

    Now if you're talking about "exotic" places like Myanmar and Oman, then no argument there.

    Not Europeans
    But Asians do have reason to buy.
    As I said I am not targetting Europeans.
    We already have netherlands server for that..

    Just tried the Indian server yesterday, pretty impressed so far.
    I get quite good latency (around 70–90ms), which is better than most EU servers for me. Performance is decent for lightweight workloads, and pricing is very competitive for the Asia region.
    Definitely a good option for users in Southeast Asia who need better routing to India. Looking forward to long-term stability!

  • @HostDZire said:

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    I disagree. I chose the @HostDZire India VPS because all considered it serves me better than a SGP VPS.

    You never really explain how it's better, so there's nothing to argue here because it's just an opinion that's not based on any metrics. My point is, other than price, there's nothing that makes India vps "better" for a non-Indian market.

    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    Many neighbouring country will choose india if price is similar to singapore.
    So market is not bad at all.
    Even if no other countries users buy it, india alone is a big market.

    This picture shows my city Chongqing. Kinda cool seeing it there. The last time I went to India was back in June 2012. I stayed in Chennai for a month. My dad had just passed away, and I went there to take part in a mental healing course. It actually helped a lot, and I came away with a really good impression of India.

    Even now, when I’m using HostDzire’s Indian servers, sometimes those memories from 13 years ago come back that summer, the smell of coffee the night bus driver was drinking after I landed, the spices in the food, the heat from the fire rituals, the kids on the street, and how young I was back then.
    :)

  • @evBread said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    I disagree. I chose the @HostDZire India VPS because all considered it serves me better than a SGP VPS.

    You never really explain how it's better, so there's nothing to argue here because it's just an opinion that's not based on any metrics. My point is, other than price, there's nothing that makes India vps "better" for a non-Indian market.

    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    Many neighbouring country will choose india if price is similar to singapore.
    So market is not bad at all.
    Even if no other countries users buy it, india alone is a big market.

    This picture shows my city Chongqing. Kinda cool seeing it there. The last time I went to India was back in June 2012. I stayed in Chennai for a month. My dad had just passed away, and I went there to take part in a mental healing course. It actually helped a lot, and I came away with a really good impression of India.

    Even now, when I’m using HostDzire’s Indian servers, sometimes those memories from 13 years ago come back that summer, the smell of coffee the night bus driver was drinking after I landed, the spices in the food, the heat from the fire rituals, the kids on the street, and how young I was back then.
    :)

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    But Asians do have reason to buy.

    Price. That's the only reason. If price is the same, give me one reason why someone in Vietnam would buy a vps in India instead of Singapore. I bet 90% of your India vps buyers from outside India will be idling their vps. They're hoarders and hobbyists.

    Not only price, but latency also.
    Not all Asian country has good latency to Singapore.

    India price is not cheaper currently. NW price is still high as compared to Singapore.

    Now thinking about who will buy is over, there are many who already buying it.
    We already sell all major locations vps. So it doesnt matter if they choose other location.
    We have something to offer from other locations as well.

  • @HostDZire said:

    @mashaofei said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @mashaofei said:
    Starting today, hostdzire is on my blacklist

    And why is that ?

    tid=619255 , understand but only understand

    So, you understand what you have asked is not possible ?
    Should i post screenshots here, or will you? let me post it anyway.

    To other good users,
    So, story is client placed order on 11/07/2025 for JP Cloud VPS #1
    Now opened ticket today asking for CA Clould VPS #1

    We said no, and he is unhappy.
    Just to let you know we can't always say yes to everything

    I am thankful to be on your black list.

    Screenshots.

    Love the 1 min reply

    Thanked by 3HostDZire evBread jsg
  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    Thank you for noticing :)
    Our AVG reply time is within 1 Hour.
    Maintaining this for many years now.

  • artxsartxs Member
    edited August 2025

    @HostDZire said:
    Not all Asian country has good latency to Singapore.

    I think you're stretching. The route to India most likely goes through Singapore, or even worse. Take this example from Ho Chi Minh to your vps that goes through Australia.

    1 gateway (103.143.142.1) 0.446 ms 0.357 ms 0.319 ms
    2 172.16.34.201 (172.16.34.201) 0.600 ms 0.988 ms 0.873 ms
    3 118.69.184.86 (118.69.184.86) 0.579 ms 0.538 ms 0.434 ms
    4 42.112.2.225 (42.112.2.225) 0.847 ms 0.791 ms 0.800 ms
    5 118.69.184.247 (118.69.184.247) 1.067 ms 1.086 ms 0.979 ms
    6 42.118.124.126 (42.118.124.126) 29.224 ms 28.946 ms 28.894 ms
    7 9498.syd.equinix.com (45.127.172.210) 139.076 ms 139.041 ms 164.290 ms
    8 182.79.224.25 (182.79.224.25) 190.351 ms 192.878 ms 190.733 ms
    9 125.19.50.24 (125.19.50.24) 196.144 ms 192.706 ms 193.551 ms
    10 103.251.93.142 (103.251.93.142) 191.592 ms 206.466 ms 189.427 ms

    I'd be interested if you can give me a concrete example where India has a shorter route than Singapore from any oriental-Asian country.

  • I have 2 vps with @HostDZire one vps i m using from more than 6 months and its good and uptime is good I m using vps for hosting woocommerce stores

    Thanked by 1HostDZire
  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Not all Asian country has good latency to Singapore.

    I think you're stretching. The route to India most likely goes through Singapore, or even worse. Take this example from Ho Chi Minh to your vps that goes through Australia.

    1 gateway (103.143.142.1) 0.446 ms 0.357 ms 0.319 ms
    2 172.16.34.201 (172.16.34.201) 0.600 ms 0.988 ms 0.873 ms
    3 118.69.184.86 (118.69.184.86) 0.579 ms 0.538 ms 0.434 ms
    4 42.112.2.225 (42.112.2.225) 0.847 ms 0.791 ms 0.800 ms
    5 118.69.184.247 (118.69.184.247) 1.067 ms 1.086 ms 0.979 ms
    6 42.118.124.126 (42.118.124.126) 29.224 ms 28.946 ms 28.894 ms
    7 9498.syd.equinix.com (45.127.172.210) 139.076 ms 139.041 ms 164.290 ms
    8 182.79.224.25 (182.79.224.25) 190.351 ms 192.878 ms 190.733 ms
    9 125.19.50.24 (125.19.50.24) 196.144 ms 192.706 ms 193.551 ms
    10 103.251.93.142 (103.251.93.142) 191.592 ms 206.466 ms 189.427 ms

    I'd be interested if you can give me a concrete example where India has a shorter route than Singapore from any oriental-Asian country.

    Why it should be oriental-Asian country ?
    It should be any country.
    Off course country which is near to Singapore will route through singapore..
    eg: Bangladesh has better route to india.

    Wait for next 5-10 years and see how things will change.

    Thanked by 3navneetkk jsg Sayantan
  • @HostDZire said:
    Why it should be oriental-Asian country ?
    It should be any country.

    So then, any country :smile: Here's from HK.. it goes through SG.

    1 202.155.141.3 (202.155.141.3) 2.351 ms 2.349 ms 2.371 ms
    2 103.196.49.171 (103.196.49.171) 2.458 ms 2.528 ms 2.517 ms
    3 edge1.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.225) 32.100 ms edge2.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.226) 32.089 ms edge1.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.225) 32.111 ms
    4 9498.sgw.equinix.com (27.111.228.40) 32.095 ms 32.192 ms 32.068 ms
    5 182.79.224.25 (182.79.224.25) 103.649 ms 120.789 ms *
    6 125.19.50.24 (125.19.50.24) 87.024 ms 85.308 ms 85.946 ms
    7 103.251.93.142 (103.251.93.142) 99.278 ms 82.318 ms 87.014 ms

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Why it should be oriental-Asian country ?
    It should be any country.

    So then, any country :smile: Here's from HK.. it goes through SG.

    1 202.155.141.3 (202.155.141.3) 2.351 ms 2.349 ms 2.371 ms
    2 103.196.49.171 (103.196.49.171) 2.458 ms 2.528 ms 2.517 ms
    3 edge1.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.225) 32.100 ms edge2.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.226) 32.089 ms edge1.sin01.as132337.net (103.148.239.225) 32.111 ms
    4 9498.sgw.equinix.com (27.111.228.40) 32.095 ms 32.192 ms 32.068 ms
    5 182.79.224.25 (182.79.224.25) 103.649 ms 120.789 ms *
    6 125.19.50.24 (125.19.50.24) 87.024 ms 85.308 ms 85.946 ms
    7 103.251.93.142 (103.251.93.142) 99.278 ms 82.318 ms 87.014 ms

    OK you Win! sorry for wasting your time.
    We can't keep doing this, it takes time.

    Thanked by 2navneetkk Riccardo
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited August 2025

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    I disagree. I chose the @HostDZire India VPS because all considered it serves me better than a SGP VPS.

    You never really explain how it's better, so there's nothing to argue here because it's just an opinion that's not based on any metrics. My point is, other than price, there's nothing that makes India vps "better" for a non-Indian market.

    BS!!

    I benchmarked both @HostDZire's India and their/Leaseweb's SGP servers. And to put it bluntly THE (pretty much only) advantage of the SGP server was the very generous traffic volume.

    For my use case though and for my location (Europe) Ryzen/Epyc/Xeon Scalable or even Xeon E5v4 and 2 or 4 or 6 or even 8 vCores isn't the decisive factor, nor is 4 GB vs 8GB memory or even more, nor is more than 4 TB traffic volume (although more of course would be nice). Also price isn't decisive (but of some importance).

    Latency is, routing is, fast - and knowledgeable! - support is, consistency is, quality is. As I said, for me and my use case, YMMV.

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Even price is better in Singapore than in india.
    If we are offering low prices, that doesnt mean india vps avg price is less.
    Still very costly.

    If your market is specifically east africa and southwest asia, then yes India is a good center to put your vps in. This is highly unlikely as Africans/Arabs and Oriental Asians have little in common as a market. so it's theoretical but not practical.

    Do I sense arrogance there? It may surprise you but actually India is quite an economy heavyweight, and besides that and frankly, more important to me, there are easily a billion people within 100 ms around India plus multiple major regions/continents, including not at all unimportant what (in Europe) we call the Near East as well as significant parts of Africa.

    Most important for me and my use case though is that India is kind of the "ideal point" between Europe and almost all of South Asia (basically Asia minus Russia). We in the center of Europe are within about 100 ms of Mumbai and so is HongKong and even significant parts of China. Btw., my HostDZire Mumbai VPS actually has better connectivity to my China targets than their/Leaseweb's SGP VPS.

    @artxs said:

    @HostDZire said:
    Any customer who has good latency to india will order it.
    Even i dont know who will.
    If we from india can order EU servers, and manage in that, about 130 to 170ms.
    Then i think within 100ms latency we already have big market.

    That's actually my point. :smile: India to anywhere in Asia or Europe is at least 80ms away.

    Wrong.
    My HostDZire Mumbai VPS does SGP within 60 ms (and so does their SGP VPS vice versa).

    @HostDZire said:
    Wait for next 5-10 years and see how things will change.

    A very important point!

    As for SGP: Not that much I guess. Simple reasons, (a) lack of size/space won't change, at least not significantly, hence if any major change then SGP becoming just a fiber hop (instead of a major hosting center), and (b) right next door there is a big country with plenty of space and ambitions.
    As for India: I expect continued growth, incl. in particular wrt fiber capacity, DCs, and internal improvements.

    Thanked by 2HostDZire besto
  • @HostDZire said:
    First people complain about not getting the deal
    Then people ask us to add more stock of that deal.
    Then again people complain why we posted more deal.

    Badiya Boss!

  • @jsg said:
    Do I sense arrogance there? It may surprise you but actually India is quite an economy heavyweight, and besides that and frankly, more important to me, there are easily a billion people within 100 ms around India plus multiple major regions/continents, including not at all unimportant what (in Europe) we call the Near East as well as significant parts of Africa.

    In terms of purchasing power, India is ranked 119th.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    This means the average Iraqi at #110 has more purchasing power than the average Indian. Economy heavyweight? if you say so.

    Anyway, so you got the India vps because it's a good proxy from your european location to get into China. Okay.

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    Do I sense arrogance there? It may surprise you but actually India is quite an economy heavyweight, and besides that and frankly, more important to me, there are easily a billion people within 100 ms around India plus multiple major regions/continents, including not at all unimportant what (in Europe) we call the Near East as well as significant parts of Africa.

    In terms of purchasing power, India is ranked 119th.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    This means the average Iraqi at #110 has more purchasing power than the average Indian. Economy heavyweight? if you say so.

    Anyway, so you got the India vps because it's a good proxy from your european location to get into China. Okay.

    Where are you from ?

    Thanked by 1navneetkk
  • navneetkknavneetkk Member
    edited August 2025

    @HostDZire said:

    @artxs said:

    @jsg said:
    Do I sense arrogance there? It may surprise you but actually India is quite an economy heavyweight, and besides that and frankly, more important to me, there are easily a billion people within 100 ms around India plus multiple major regions/continents, including not at all unimportant what (in Europe) we call the Near East as well as significant parts of Africa.

    In terms of purchasing power, India is ranked 119th.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    This means the average Iraqi at #110 has more purchasing power than the average Indian. Economy heavyweight? if you say so.

    Anyway, so you got the India vps because it's a good proxy from your european location to get into China. Okay.

    Where are you from ?

    .

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