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Free VDS on Verasel dedi benchmark and review

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  • @timmmy said:

    @bugfree said:
    I am not sure why LET is not nice to you guys trying to contribute to community by providing free resources.
    You may build an open project for your free vds for qulified users.
    Just keep your passion, bro.

    im sure rules are there for reasons but im also fucking sure a 4 month old account wouldnt be able to understand that :D
    keep sucking up, bro.

    Rules are rules, I said I just comment on what I see.
    Seriously, where’s the fucking ego of yours coming from?

  • timmmytimmmy Member

    @bugfree said:

    @timmmy said:

    @bugfree said:
    I am not sure why LET is not nice to you guys trying to contribute to community by providing free resources.
    You may build an open project for your free vds for qulified users.
    Just keep your passion, bro.

    im sure rules are there for reasons but im also fucking sure a 4 month old account wouldnt be able to understand that :D
    keep sucking up, bro.

    Rules are rules, I said I just comment on what I see.
    Seriously, where’s the fucking ego of yours coming from?

    kekistan

  • M66BM66B Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @jsg said:
    @plumberg @OnePrice

    Thanks for helping me.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited July 2025

    @bugfree said:

    @timmmy said:

    @bugfree said:
    I am not sure why LET is not nice to you guys trying to contribute to community by providing free resources.
    You may build an open project for your free vds for qulified users.
    Just keep your passion, bro.

    im sure rules are there for reasons but im also fucking sure a 4 month old account wouldnt be able to understand that :D
    keep sucking up, bro.

    Rules are rules, I said I just comment on what I see.
    Seriously, where’s the fucking ego of yours coming from?

    Because you said you don't understand, yet it was pretty understandable to the rest of us. Plain as day posts explicitly talk about the last 12 page thread on this, he's right to point out there's no fucking helping you to understand.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited July 2025

    @Falzo

    I took a bit extra time to test disk configs plus the dedi itself, only a single run though because as I said I want to get those VDSs out to their users and I love to keep ETA.

    Here you go, my observations:

    • when changing the VDS's disk controller from virtio to default (LSI [some model] SCSI) they funnily got very slightly faster, slightly as in a quarter of a MB/s faster and maybe 50 IOps more.
    • I guess the decisive factor is that all the disks are attached to the same LSI 3008 Raid controller anyway plus, going more for safety (of user data) than speed I configured write-through mode (write-back would be way faster but also way, way less safe)
    • (Maybe funny) side note: the same type and model of drive is not faster with ZFS than with the controllers Raid 1. Actually it's a bee stick slower (but within the error margin).
    • Very little performance is lost to virtualization, except for disk performance, which is somewhat more than double on the server it self (compared to on a VDS). I guess the major part of that is due to write-through.

    Whatever, it is what it is (and I for one am not dancing in joy but neither am I unhappy with what we got for free).

    Thanked by 1Falzo
  • When will the server be sent to the lucky winners? I can't wait to know the results :p > @jsg said:

    @Falzo

    I took a bit extra time to test disk configs plus the dedi itself, only a single run though because as I said I want to get those VDSs out to their users and I love to keep ETA.

    Here you go, my observations:

    • when changing the VDS's disk controller from virtio to default (LSI [some model] SCSI) they funnily got very slightly faster, slightly as in a quarter of a MB/s faster and maybe 50 IOps more.
    • I guess the decisive factor is that all the disks are attached to the same LSI 3008 Raid controller anyway plus, going more for safety (of user data) than speed I configured write-through mode (write-back would be way faster but also way, way less safe)
    • (Maybe funny) side note: the same type and model of drive is not faster with ZFS than with the controllers Raid 1. Actually it's a bee stick slower (but within the error margin).
    • Very little performance is lost to virtualization, except for disk performance, which is somewhat more than double on the server it self (compared to on a VDS). I guess the major part of that is due to write-through.

    Whatever, it is what it is (and I for one am not dancing in joy but neither am I unhappy with what we got for free).

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    OK, the first VDSs (4 dedicated vCores, 8 GB memory, 50 GB drive + >= 300 GB storage, and a dedicated IP) are out.

    I'll quite likely give away a few more, probably smaller ones but still with dedicated core(s), to users meeting my criteria.

    Before anyone DM shouts "I want one": that node is old-ish (E5 v3) and by no means a speed-daemon, plus I configured it conservatively (safety was/is the priority, not speed). Connectivity is very good though (but limited).

  • zedzed Member
    edited July 2025

    I don't mean to be a dick, but what is the point of this thread anyway if you're doing secret giveaways to people you like? Why not just give them the vps and not make a @Verasel about it?

    edit: Even the benchmarking I don't understand, except it's advertising the non-giveaways I guess? Does anyone care about benchmarks of vps on an old box that you're carving out vps for your friends on? What even is this man?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited July 2025

    @zed said:
    I don't mean to be a dick, but what is the point of this thread anyway if you're doing secret giveaways to people you like? Why not just give them the vps

    Uhm, I wanted to do it publicly and let almost everyone here (less than a hand full exceptions) have a fair chance - but sadly it wasn't possible.

    and not make a @Verasel about it?

    That's probably a major reason for negative reactions, so I'll address it. NOPE, WRONG! I just so happened to get the dedi towards the end of @Verasel's thread which seems to have led some people here - incl. at least one admin - to falsely presume that I was merely acting as a Verasel go for. That is not the case!
    I'll be perfectly honest: yes, I did and do like Verasel and by no means only because he gave me a free dedi. And yes, my giveaway thread was of course related to his thread, in which he said that he'll give me said dedi. But I did my thread simply because I independently and anyway wanted to give away a major part of that dedi ("share it with others"). I'd have done exactly the same if that server were provided by someone else and/or if Verasel's thread had gone differently.

    edit: Even the benchmarking I don't understand, except it's advertising the non-giveaways I guess?

    Very simple: I wanted people interested in a free VDS to get a clear impression of what to expect.

    And btw. Nope, those to whom I gave a free VDS are not my friends, they are LET users whose application I happened to remember and who plus-minus did fit my criteria (which were relatively loose). In fact, most of them I didn't even know before, nor had interacted with (as far as I remember).

    Finally, my last comment (to which you responded) basically was a way of saying "sadly it didn't go as planned (due to thread closed or deleted) but I want both, to keep my word, and to do as I had planned (share the server)". And I did.

    FWIW, I do not think that you are a dick.

    Thanked by 1zed
  • zedzed Member

    @jsg said: Finally, my last comment (to which you responded) basically was a way of saying "sadly it didn't go as planned (due to thread closed or deleted) but I want both, to keep my word, and to do as I had planned (share the server)". And I did.

    Fair enough man, thanks for answering.

    Thanked by 1jsg
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