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VPS Linux installs on EXT4 vs ?

A vps I recently purchased offered Debian 12 and Debian 12 on an ext4 filesystem. I guess as a newbie, I never thought about it. Is it normally using the virtual filesystem? Why the distinction? Anyway, have a great weekend!

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Please use a search engine because it is way more easier than opening a thread. Here is a distinction between EXT partitions.

    Thanked by 3woinokiz webcraft 0xC7
  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @roblowend said:
    A vps I recently purchased offered Debian 12 and Debian 12 on an ext4 filesystem. I guess as a newbie, I never thought about it. Is it normally using the virtual filesystem? Why the distinction? Anyway, have a great weekend!

    Hi,

    since ext4 is default for Debian 12 this selection makes actually not too much sense.

    Your question is better placed with the support of where ever you purchased this server. Only the provider can tell you whats the difference.

    We here can most probably just guess.

    Thanked by 2webcraft roblowend
  • @default said: Here is a distinction between EXT partitions.

    I think you mean filesystems. But, yes, I am aware of the differences between the various ext types. I was wondering why the provider would offer:
    Debian 12 (Bookworm) Minimal
    Minimal installation with limited packages. New packages are easily installed using Advanced Package Tool (APT), the main command-line package manager for Debian.

    and

    Debian 12 (Bookworm) ext4
    Minimal installation with limited packages on an ext4 filesystem. New packages are easily installed using Advanced Package Tool (APT), the main command-line package manager for Debian.

    I'm glad it does not make sense to you all as well.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    xfs, thx

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

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  • @emgh said:
    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

    VirtFusion doesn't have special images, they're the ones Debian, Alma and others have published just like they are. FreeBSD and Windoes is the only self-build for now afaik.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @webcraft said:

    @emgh said:
    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

    VirtFusion doesn't have special images, they're the ones Debian, Alma and others have published just like they are. FreeBSD and Windoes is the only self-build for now afaik.

    I said XFS is the Virtfusion default. You objected. Are you sure the default in Virtfusion Debain 12 isn't XFS?

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @webcraft said:

    @emgh said:
    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

    VirtFusion doesn't have special images, they're the ones Debian, Alma and others have published just like they are. FreeBSD and Windoes is the only self-build for now afaik.

    I said XFS is the Virtfusion default. You objected. Are you sure the default in Virtfusion Debain 12 isn't XFS?

    https://bitbucket.org/virtfusion-public/packer/src/master/config/debian-12/http/preseed-base.cfg

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited July 2025

    @emgh said:

    @webcraft said:

    @emgh said:
    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

    VirtFusion doesn't have special images, they're the ones Debian, Alma and others have published just like they are. FreeBSD and Windoes is the only self-build for now afaik.

    I said XFS is the Virtfusion default. You objected. Are you sure the default in Virtfusion Debain 12 isn't XFS?

    I don't know what would be the default. I just rechecked @VirtFusion 's statement on Discord, maybe only the ISO is mirrored from original source but template is self-created.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @webcraft said:

    @emgh said:

    @webcraft said:

    @emgh said:
    I think I know what provider that is and I think XFS is the Virtfusion default FS hence the added EXT4

    VirtFusion doesn't have special images, they're the ones Debian, Alma and others have published just like they are. FreeBSD and Windoes is the only self-build for now afaik.

    I said XFS is the Virtfusion default. You objected. Are you sure the default in Virtfusion Debain 12 isn't XFS?

    I don't know what would be the default. I just rechecked @VirtFusion 's statement on Discord, maybe only the ISO is mirrored from original source but template is self-created.

    My Virtfusion servers all use XFS.

  • ninhninh Member
    edited July 2025

    @roblowend said:
    A vps I recently purchased offered Debian 12 and Debian 12 on an ext4 filesystem. I guess as a newbie, I never thought about it. Is it normally using the virtual filesystem? Why the distinction? Anyway, have a great weekend!

    For a “normal” user, there’s no noticeable difference between XFS and EXT4. But XFS really shines when you have more than 100,000 files. EXT4 can handle large numbers of files, but it wasn’t designed with that in mind.

    In my case, I have millions of small files — they take up about 80 GB on XFS, but around 120 GB on EXT4. That’s because XFS uses dynamic allocation for inode metadata. While EXT4 wastes space with its pre-allocated inode structure.

    Furthermore, listing large directories (ls) on EXT4 tends to degrade in performance. That’s why many programs organize files into multiple subdirectories using hashed prefixes like 1a/, bc/, and so on. On XFS, this isn’t necessary.

    My recommendation: go with XFS. VF chooses it as the default for a reason. MinIO recommends using XFS as well.

    Thanked by 2nick_ roblowend
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