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What commercial VPN do you recommend?

I currently have a subscription with SurfShark because it's dirt cheap and [in theory] allows unlimited devices. Their ToS defines "abuse" by fair-use traffic volumes, which works for me because I use very little traffic over a lot of devices, (probably 30 or so, mostly idling 99% of the time).

But recently their automated system has started blocking my account, (twice in the past week), and it's becoming a fuckaround to email their support with detailed explanations about what I've been doing and beg them to unban me.

To their credit they have been unlocking my account on request, but it's unsustainable because it's causing long outages and pointless drama so I've just got to replace it with a different service.

What I'm looking for:

  • Generous device count, ideally with a clear limit so I can avoid the above mentioned hassle
  • Uses Wireguard and allows you to download/use config files rather than their app
  • Should at least pretend not to keep logs
  • Ideally cheap

What I don't care about:

  • Traffic limits. I'd be amazed if I ever use more than 5TB/month
  • Traffic speeds. It shouldn't be slow but 250mbps pipes would be enough
  • Number of locations, (especially exotic ones)
  • Additional "security crap" addons
  • Paying with crypto. PayPal/Stripe/card is fine.

I can also compromise on device counts by getting multiple subscriptions, but I really need it to just work when it's supposed to and not have some black box scanner that randomly kills my account.

All suggestions appreciated 👍

Comments

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    IncogVPN 💪

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • IPVanish

  • Mullvad

    Thanked by 1WebProject
  • willgowillgo Member

    Mullvad

  • xemapsxemaps Member

    Your OWN ! from small fast VPS provider with Wireguard (in the linux kernel=fast) - or at least tailscale at the choosen places you choose, eventually share with a few friends to.
    Don't trust VPN providers and policies, most are lears.

  • xemapsxemaps Member
    edited July 2025

    Even use ssh socks ! ...> @xemaps said:

    Your OWN ! from small fast VPS provider with Wireguard (in the linux kernel=fast) - or at least tailscale at the desired places, eventually share with a few friends to.
    Don't trust VPN providers and policies, most are lears.

    Even use ssh socks ! ...

  • @MannDude said:
    IncogVPN 💪

    When will there be a promotion?

  • If you just need a single location, go with on your own like a small vps and wireguard, it works fine

    I have 5/6 vps for vpn with custom made android app it's easy and never got any issues

    Thanked by 1xemaps
  • mullvad, airvpn

  • dosaidosai Member

    Mullvad or protonvpn

  • iKeyZiKeyZ Veteran

    +1 Mullvad

  • @xemaps said:
    Your OWN ! from small fast VPS provider with Wireguard (in the linux kernel=fast) - or at least tailscale at the choosen places you choose, eventually share with a few friends to.
    Don't trust VPN providers and policies, most are lears.

    I'm using most of the VPN endpoints as Tailscale exit nodes, so I connect to the exit node and then the traffic goes out over the commercial VPN, (basically a DIY version of the official Tailscale/Mullvad integration). If anyone's interested, I posted the setup here: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4427800/#Comment_4427800

    Thanked by 1xemaps
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We use 1.1.1.1 app.

    Thanked by 1xemaps
  • xemapsxemaps Member

    @yoursunny said:
    We use 1.1.1.1 app.

    Yes cloudflare could be a solution, but depends on other(side).

  • @woinokiz said:
    If you just need a single location, go with on your own like a small vps and wireguard, it works fine

    I have 5/6 vps for vpn with custom made android app it's easy and never got any issues

    I have a couple of endpoints setup with a DMCA Ignore host in Moldova, but I really need a commercial VPN to serve as a traffic mixer.

    For example, I'm running SearxNG and Nitter so using a single static IP will get them blocked in no time. The services are perfectly legit, but the search engines and Twitter hate you using them so a VPN with rotating IPs is essential.

  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    mullvad always

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Tagging @Ympker because AFAIK he is the VPN guru here.

    Thanked by 3Ympker GPoe 0xC7
  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited July 2025

    @jsg said:
    Tagging @Ympker because AFAIK he is the VPN guru here.

    I'm very happy with Windscribe: https://windscribe.com/. Using it as my daily driver since a couple of years. Should tick all the boxes (WG config generator, no logs policy, good speeds, no device limit but no-abuse policy: https://windscribe.com/knowledge-base/articles/how-many-devices-can-i-connect-to-at-the-same-time/ ). The app has great features, works on linux and also allows to import custom configs from other vpn services, so it's really flexible.

    Thanked by 2jsg 0xC7
  • CloudHopperCloudHopper Member
    edited July 2025

    Thanks for all your suggestions.

    Unfortunately Mullvad only allows 5 simultaneous connections, which would make it expensive because I probably need nearer 15.

    AirVPN looks interesting, but there's also a 5 device limit. It's a bit cheaper than Mullvad though, and they seem good with anonymity like Mullvad.

    Proton allows 10 devices and has a decent reputation so it's definitely worth a better look at their ToS.

    Windscribe looks interesting, but their ToS is saying:

    make sure those devices are yours and you are not using the service in any sort of datacenter environment or using it for commercial purposes. No one has 30 personal computers that all need a VPN enabled

    I think what keeps getting me blocked by Surfshark is that I have 25 Docker containers with open connections that are idle, but pinging a keep alive. They're not pushing traffic but they need to be connected for when I connect to a Tailscale exit node and route the traffic over the VPN.

    I probably need to rethink this and figure out a way to only connect to the VPN when a connection is made to teh Tailscale exit node and disconnect when the client disconnects

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    I've used PIA for years, and have multi-year subscriptions. Speeds are great. No account info required, takes many payment options. Also if you ever contact them, there's a follow up the next day confirming the data in the ticket was redacted/deleted.

  • xprebounxpreboun Member
    edited July 2025

    I've been routing an entire VLAN and a BitTorrent client through Windscribe on my UDM SE for over four months without issue. If your containers are running on the same host, you could simplify the setup by routing all of them through a single Gluetun container.

  • @CloudHopper said:

    I think what keeps getting me blocked by Surfshark is that I have 25 Docker containers with open connections that are idle, but pinging a keep alive. They're not pushing traffic but they need to be connected for when I connect to a Tailscale exit node and route the traffic over the VPN.

    I probably need to rethink this and figure out a way to only connect to the VPN when a connection is made to teh Tailscale exit node and disconnect when the client disconnects

    I don't really get what you are trying to do. Please explain.

  • CloudHopperCloudHopper Member
    edited July 2025

    @concept said:

    @CloudHopper said:

    I think what keeps getting me blocked by Surfshark is that I have 25 Docker containers with open connections that are idle, but pinging a keep alive. They're not pushing traffic but they need to be connected for when I connect to a Tailscale exit node and route the traffic over the VPN.

    I probably need to rethink this and figure out a way to only connect to the VPN when a connection is made to teh Tailscale exit node and disconnect when the client disconnects

    I don't really get what you are trying to do. Please explain.

    I have a Tailscale mesh network, (Headscale), and I have some self-built docker containers that run Tailscale Exit Nodes and route all of their traffic out over Wireguard to a commercial VPN. It's essentially Tailscale's Mullvad Exit Nodes, but using generic Wireguard: https://tailscale.com/mullvad

    This is a screenshot of my list of Tailscale Exit Nodes on the Android app:
    Tailscale Exit Nodes
    _
    edit: not sure why the image hasn't rendered but it's here: _ https://imgur.com/a/jtVkDNu

    And these are the instructions to build the Container and then deploy as many as you want: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4427800/#Comment_4427800

    The problem is the connections to each city of the VPN provider are constantly connected, (with a persistent keep alive of 25s), because they connect on startup. The Exit nodes are rarely used, so traffic isn't an issue, but they objectively do look like a DDoS waiting to happen so I probably need to rethink my design or significantly reduce the number of endpoints.

  • caasifycaasify 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    You can try Caasify VPN

    It is based on a pay-per-use payment model.

  • I've been using Windscribe (aff / non-aff) since the beginning of May and I'm very happy with it, I purchased it for $29/year, recurring.

  • Create your Own, buy a high bandwidth vps and install wireguard

  • tsusutsusu Member

    NordVPN is pretty good IMO, but on occasion I've had issues with their NYC servers.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    ProtonVPN is quite decent and affordable. Managed to get even close to 1Gbps via their VPN.

  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    Mullvad

  • hezihezi Member

    @CloudHopper said:

    AirVPN looks interesting, but there's also a 5 device limit. It's a bit cheaper than Mullvad though, and they seem good with anonymity like Mullvad.

    I've been using AirVPN for a decade+. Zero complaints. I remember also trying Mullvad a long time ago. It was nice but Air was much more polished at the time

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