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Are there providers that are transparent with the load on their hypervisors?

It's generally preferable to have providers with loads that are <50%, but most providers don't give such info except the uptime.

so far the only provider i found that display this info is speedypage, are there other providers that do that?

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  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @AlexPads / Enzonix shows it on their status site: https://status.enzonix.com
    @advinservers shows it as well: https://status.advinservers.com
    And Calin, but he mentioned it himself already.

    Thanked by 20xC7 host_c
  • CalinCalin Member

    @newvps123 said: providers with loads that are <50

    This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Maximum what it's possible it's 80% (20% left for , 10% customers what make upgrades and another 10% for cache and no overload node)

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @Calin said: This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Very easy if you don't disable hyperthreading

  • @Calin said:

    @newvps123 said: providers with loads that are <50

    This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Maximum what it's possible it's 80% (20% left for , 10% customers what make upgrades and another 10% for cache and no overload node)

    is hetzner considered lowend or highend?
    There's no publicly available info from hetzner on their avg load

  • newvps123newvps123 Member
    edited July 2025

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  • @tentor said:

    @Calin said: This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Very easy if you don't disable hyperthreading

    Hyperthreading is a security risk, you dont disable it?

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @NeedDeal said: Hyperthreading is a security risk

    Not if mitigations enabled

    @NeedDeal said: you dont disable it?

    We have all necessary mitigations enabled.

  • MattBGPMattBGP Member, Host Rep, LIR

    We don’t display this info just yet but planning to :smile:

    We currently average around 55% CPU, 40% RAM and 51% Disk on all of our hypervisors.

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • Useless* in my opinion.
    If you have such needs go get a dedicated server.

  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    just added it https://status.al.uy

    Thanked by 2JohnFilch123 zGato
  • speedypagespeedypage Member, Host Rep

    We're about to release a new site that will feature much, much more data too! We're all for transparency, we will be adding similar stats for our web hosting products too.

  • DataWagonDataWagon Member, Patron Provider

    @Calin said:

    @newvps123 said: providers with loads that are <50

    This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Maximum what it's possible it's 80% (20% left for , 10% customers what make upgrades and another 10% for cache and no overload node)

    Our VM nodes almost always run < 50% CPU utilization on the host.

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @newvps123 said:
    It's generally preferable to have providers with loads that are <50%, but most providers don't give such info except the uptime.

    so far the only provider i found that display this info is speedypage, are there other providers that do that?

    Hi,

    just out of curiosity, why exactly do you prefer providers that are < 50%?

    You can normally not use the remaining >50% even if they are free.

    So you as customer have actually no advantage?!

    Your only disadvantage is that you as a customer on such a host will pay for the remaining >50% with your fee's.

    Most of our cluster are running somewhere between 30 and 60% but at no point i would give a contractual guarantee for that as it would mean that the customers who pay for the 30-60% usage will have to pay for the rest too ( while they dont even use it ). Someone has to ;)

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • DrNutellaDrNutella Member
    edited July 2025

    Most transparent host = banned?
    Should we open a thread and poll to unban @Calin? We don't have just be all haters, maybe everything isn't a Scandal.

    If this comment hits 10 likes I will post thread and vote.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @NeedDeal said:

    @tentor said:

    @Calin said: This it's impossible , if you work in a low end market

    Very easy if you don't disable hyperthreading

    Hyperthreading is a security risk, you dont disable it?

    Bruh

  • xvpsxvps Member

    @DrNutella said:

    Most transparent host = banned?
    Should we open a thread and poll to unban @Calin? We don't have just be all haters, maybe everything isn't a Scandal.

    If this comment hits 10 likes I will post thread and vote.

    I thanked your post just for the fun of reading the drama thread you're about to create,

    (and the poll the admins are going to ignore.)

    Thanked by 2Noct DrNutella
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @xvps said:

    @DrNutella said:

    Most transparent host = banned?
    Should we open a thread and poll to unban @Calin? We don't have just be all haters, maybe everything isn't a Scandal.

    If this comment hits 10 likes I will post thread and vote.

    I thanked your post just for the fun of reading the drama thread you're about to create,

    (and the poll the admins are going to ignore.)

    Boring drama + he says he has stopped with low prices anyway. Offers are expensive nowadays.

    Thanked by 1JohnnySac
  • @DrNutella said:

    Most transparent host = banned?
    Should we open a thread and poll to unban @Calin? We don't have just be all haters, maybe everything isn't a Scandal.

    If this comment hits 10 likes I will post thread and vote.

  • @speedypage said:
    We're about to release a new site that will feature much, much more data too! We're all for transparency, we will be adding similar stats for our web hosting products too.

    is there an eta for that?

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @newvps123 said:
    It's generally preferable to have providers with loads that are <50%, but most providers don't give such info except the uptime.

    so far the only provider i found that display this info is speedypage, are there other providers that do that?

    can I qualify?

    here you go, highest is on top

  • @layer7 said:

    @newvps123 said:
    It's generally preferable to have providers with loads that are <50%, but most providers don't give such info except the uptime.

    so far the only provider i found that display this info is speedypage, are there other providers that do that?

    Hi,

    just out of curiosity, why exactly do you prefer providers that are < 50%?

    You can normally not use the remaining >50% even if they are free.

    So you as customer have actually no advantage?!

    Your only disadvantage is that you as a customer on such a host will pay for the remaining >50% with your fee's.

    Most of our cluster are running somewhere between 30 and 60% but at no point i would give a contractual guarantee for that as it would mean that the customers who pay for the 30-60% usage will have to pay for the rest too ( while they dont even use it ). Someone has to ;)

    Not every customer is looking for the lowest price, it would be great if it's possible to secure exclusive physical cores. if a hyperthreaded server load is high but <100%, all the remaining pairs of vcores might still have lower performance, if that 2 vcore isn't 1 reserved physical core

    for epyc servers with high core count it might be less of a concern, but for low core physical servers, having a constant high load might result in less room to handle traffic surges.

  • EthernetServersEthernetServers Member, Patron Provider

    @newvps123 said:
    the only provider i found that display this info is speedypage

    Out of interest, how/where is this displayed?

  • This point was touched on earlier, but it's worth reiterating: a reported 50% CPU utilization of a hypervisor leveraging Intel Hyper-Threading or AMD Simultaneous Multi-Threading doesn't reflect the true load. SMT/HT typically offers around a 15% performance uplift, meaning that 50% reported utilization equates to approximately 90% of real capacity. In practice, that hypervisor is nearing full saturation.

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @newvps123 said:
    Not every customer is looking for the lowest price, it would be great if it's possible to secure exclusive physical cores. if a hyperthreaded server load is high but <100%, all the remaining pairs of vcores might still have lower performance, if that 2 vcore isn't 1 reserved physical core

    for epyc servers with high core count it might be less of a concern, but for low core physical servers, having a constant high load might result in less room to handle traffic surges.

    Hi,

    the price is here actually not the point.

    The point is, that if you booked 4 cores on a 40 core system ( thats not high core count ) and this 40 core system has a load of < 50% ( means > 20 cores idle )

    you, with your 4 cores do not benefit from the fact that 20 cores idle.

    You can not use them. Other customers can not use them, they are there but do nothing.

    So if you can not use them, why do they matter to you?

    I would understand if you want a hoster that does not do >80% so there is 20% space for bursts.

    But 50%? There can normally not be as much burst that the host CPU will hit the >90% mark so that YOU as a customer will have actually negative impacts on your performance.


    Of course you are free to put on what ever requirements you desire. Your money, your rules.

    But in this special case i dont see any benefit for you ( even you are ready to pay this vacant resources ). And if you dont have a real benefit, why actually paying for something you actually dont have? -- Even your VM life would depend on it and you are running flat 100% CPU usage. Your VM wont run any fast if the host CPU idles for 50% or 30%

    Thanked by 2host_c BasToTheMax
  • @layer7 said: you, with your 4 cores do not benefit from the fact that 20 cores idle.

    You can not use them. Other customers can not use them, they are there but do nothing.

    So if you can not use them, why do they matter to you?

    Tell us you don't understand hardware without telling us you don't understand hardware. Slow clap.

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @cu_olly said:
    This point was touched on earlier, but it's worth reiterating: a reported 50% CPU utilization of a hypervisor leveraging Intel Hyper-Threading or AMD Simultaneous Multi-Threading doesn't reflect the true load. SMT/HT typically offers around a 15% performance uplift, meaning that 50% reported utilization equates to approximately 90% of real capacity. In practice, that hypervisor is nearing full saturation.

    Hi,

    source for this.... aeohm... opinion?

    I mean that what ever the linux kernel shows as CPU utilization is not the real CPU utilization if hyper threading was activated....

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