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Any thoughts as to why?
I’ve never used UrDN nor had any intentions to. But news is news.
Crazy,
But whay they are still under investigations by the Ukrainian police ?
Are there any reasons ?
I'm guessing the copyright mafia paid a big beautiful bribe to the Ukrainian police
But are they involved in something criminal?
it is bulletproof hosting... it was kind of expected
Not so resilient after all
I wouldn't call UDN "bulletproof hosting".
People throw that definition so brazenly. I would call them a free-speech friendly hosting, that mostly hosted exit nodes, and a once known anime tracker. But, no, I do not believe that you could call them "bulletproof" by any means necessary.
Their transit, now, is NetAssist... if you're in the hosting industry, you know of NetAssist, and you know that he is a legitimate businessman.
Regardless of UDN CEO's "past", UDN itself is a good hosting provider.
I hope that everything works out, and that they come back online very soon. They proved to be resilient in other terms of the word, if not that of the network itself... but, we can't have everything in life, can we?
Prayers that UDN comes back online soon.
Last I checked they were full of csam and malware.
Really? I remember them hosting exit nodes, Tokyo Toshokan, IRC related stuff, really... niche stuff... tiny host.
I just wonder the percentage of both CSAM and Malware, genuinely... not defending them... not using them... only know of them because of Tokyo Toshokan, really.
cant know the %, but it was quite a lot.
It honestly surprises me.
I am only saying this because UDN is tiny. Like, the amount of people aware of UDN outside of LET are practically <100.
I am willing to take your word for it, and trust you, but I don't see the owner himself selling it for that purpose.
It's possible that he started to allow resellers, possibly... but it's the type of service where you know every customer. For that to happen, it would have to be a reseller that doesn't care, or compromised boxes.
What I mean to say is, it really doesn't fit the m/o. There would have been far easier ways for them to host those things by taking a random AS from Ukraine and transit from a local ISP.
If what you are saying is something that the owner allowed, it would just be... strange... very strange.
Just checked the abuse reports for UDN’s two /24 blocks, and about 99% of the abuse comes from Tor exit nodes. I highly doubt UDN knowingly hosts malware, they allow grey area content unless it’s clearly illegal in ukraine. Most of the abuse reports is probably just Tor related, not actual malware.
Kinda sums it up rather well, actually. I totally forgot that they had exit nodes.
But, yeah... hoping it's a quick fix.
But honestly. Tor nodes are on every Hosting provider. Hetzner has plenty of them, and they still exist. So i wouldn't say that this the issue in general. There must be a larger thing.
ahhhhhhh, im from texas
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@Verasel they hosted Libgen (.is/.st) maybe that's why they were targeted
Libegen, Sci-hub, et, al. are not the type of targets EUROPOL (in conjunction with their foreign law enforcement partners) would spend any type of time, money or resources on.
The only things that EUROPOL, incl. their partners will spend their time on are the following:
Anything, and everything else falls so low below the radar of giving any types of fucks, that you could easily do whatever the hell you want as long as you are not a complete degenerate, or the unlucky one to be involved in IPTV, Stressing, Unlicensed Crypto Exchanges, etc.
If you remember what happened to the Kickass Torrents owner, that only hapened to him because of the fact that he had no opsec of any kind, and sold ads to a Federal Fucking Agent. You will get got, even if you are a mere torrent site, if you sell ads on a clearly illegal website, to a Federal Fucking Agent.
Go back to the times of what was known as ManWin, when PornHub.com started, and when they started suddenly buying up everything... two men, Sam and Daniel.
Who were creating scareware software (fake CCleaner type of thing) were making tens of millions on the regular, and they needed a way to clean it. They invested in porn sites, in one network in particular... what is now known as Aylo, and back then as ManWin and later as MindGeek, before the re-re-branding to Aylo.
Neither Sam nor Daniel went to prison.
Funds were confiscate, some of them... both men remain on the INTERPOL's Most Wanted... but here is the funny part... Daniel is living in his home country of Sweden as a free man. Regardless of the INTERPOL notice.
Regardless of what happened, the tens of millions, the creation of an adult industry behemoth that would become now Aylo... neither Sam, nor Daniel... nor anyone else, served a day in jail (or prison), except for the guy that made all of it happened through his intelligence, Fabian, but more commonly known as Nathan (creator of NATS, the tracking software used in the adult industry to this day) and who knows... after the whole GirlsDoPorn fall out... who knows who truly is in control of Aylo today..
Nathan spent a night in his native Germany in jail over a tax mixup, which was quite quickly resolved, and "sold" his shares in the adult conglomerate to a man we will refer to as Bern, and somehow, his identity was leaked after the GirlsDoPorn fiasco.. and he sold his shares... and retired...
Now, who got those shares... who was intelligent enough to use such a big, strong case, during the MeToo culture, and the increasingly popular feminism movements across the globe... who would be intelligent enough to stage a coup d'etat. A corporate takeover, so to speak...
No one knows, and no one will know... but there's nobodies (Libgen, Sci-hub, The Pirate Bay, Fmovies and all the clones) and there's real criminals (CSAM degenerates, ponzi, darknet markets) and then there's people whose names you have never heard of, and whose reach goes beyond what you might imagine...
But, rest assured... No Law Enforcement agencies will spend a minute of their time to look for guys like "Sam" or "Daniel", or any of their would-be cohorts.
These are, at the end of the day, tax-paying, high-earning citizens.
But, quite the same, also be sure, that they won't spend any time going after Libgen or Sci-Hub, etc.
MPA, ACE, and the such, incl. La Liga are interested in so many different things, but neither have any more power than to influence ICANN to tighten the ropes regarding domain seizures, and service providers such as CloudFlare, Incapsula, DDoS-Guard, et cetera... to be more pro-active in blocking the domains quickly enough.
This mainly relates to IPTV (because of La Liga, most notably, and for some HBO series premieres, if it's a day-delayed in some countries, etc) and in some cases, unlicensed casinos... but, they generate so much money, and pay so much in taxes, that nobody is going to go after them. We are talking companies like 1xbet and such feeding entire villages of families, let alone cities... let alone the other unlicensed casino organizations, and how many countries they have their operations in for their online operations, and their offline operations...
They span from South America, South-East Asia all the way to Russia and Ukraine... in midst of the war, Ukrainian Banks are processing payments for Russian casino groups, same like before 2014, during 2022 and after 2022 -- continuing to this day as we speak.
Put simply... our lovely Libgen and Sci-Hub, along with any other "naughty" project is completely safe from Law Enforcement action.
We are talking, at worst, domain seizures... we will always be able to skirt those, just like we were able to before, we will always find a way. You may remember what Mal said in Serenity, the follow-up movie to the short-lived FOX series Fireflx... "Come a day about, there won't be a place in the 'verse (planet) for naughty men to run about".
Truth is, free speech will prevail over everything... freedom will prevail...
UDN may be offline, we do not know why, we do not know if they are returning, but here I am, offering any and all resources at my disposal to its operator to help them come back online, and restore their exit nodes, Toshokan, and the services to its clients, most importantly.
Telegram: topkeknet / Signal: verasel.01 / XMPP: [email protected] / [email protected]
I've had some initial interactions with them, and they seem quite helpful. I'm not sure why their internet connection hasn't been restored yet. Praying they can get back online safely.
Any _new news _from @UrDN? Have always been a stable provider. Used them some years ago, and now was looking again to host with them. Found out they are offline, but no info about them recovering their equipment or if they are restarting their service somewhere else.
They got shut down once already in the past and moved to Sweden for some years, so I expected the same would happen again, but haven't heard a word since from them since July.
if they already got shutdown, and now again, it tells you there is a very good reason for that
Thanks Captain Obvious. We all know it's the same reason why the other 450+ ISPs in Ukraine shut down last year.
Got something with substance to share, or just useless comments?
You can send them an email, their mail servers are still up.
[email protected]
@magxnta did you receive a update?
They are still replying to emails at [email protected]. I sent them one earlier today to ask about the status of their seized hardware, as well as claims they were previously threatened with conscription; which I had heard but did not know whether they were true. They quickly responded with the following:
Hopefully, this sheds some light on the situation, I'm not sure why there is no transparency page like last time.