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Got Attacked, Got Banned – Thanks Aeza

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  • @DP said:

    @keq said: Turns out, they suspended the account because we were under a DDoS attack.
    Let that sink in: they sell DDoS-protected servers, but suspend you the moment you actually get attacked. So... why did they do it?

    I skimmed through their TOS and noticed this:

    The Company reserves the right to stop the Client's services and servers for: Scheduled maintenance, due to DoS and network attacks, as a result of natural disasters and other force majeure circumstances.

    They could've done better with that and put something like "comes with premium suspension when things get too heavy" :smiley:

    With terms this vague, the safest approach is to ask for clarification or simply avoid. And given their unwillingness to offer clarification to the OP is a clear sign for others to steer clear.

  • AS203446AS203446 Member, Patron Provider

    @keq said:

    @AS203446 said:
    Not everyone wants Terabit scale attacks.

    If a company cannot protect it well, I will never see this as a user problem, sorry

    How much did you pay for the VPS?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @keq said:

    @jsg said:
    Sorry but all I saw so far in terms of evidence is a screenshot showing that OP / @keq is blocked/can't login to aeza's panel, which by itself and without context doesn't say a lot.

    That is not to say that I think that keq lied or that aeza did well and the right thing. What I mean is that we should stick to the golden rule "hear both sides!".

    Also, keq why did you get DDOSed? After all, typically one doesn't get DDOSed out of the blue without any reason ...

    Care to tell us a bit more? And of course the same goes for aeza.

    If you have a large community you will always be a target. I think you have never encountered such a situation before and I think you have not received high attacks, it seems like you know better than me. I have been looking for a good protected company for months.

    I am not receiving any replies to my emails, the only reply I receive from Telegram is go read the rules. There is no interlocutor
    You can try them on this issue. If one day your account gets banned, LET should come to mind.

    You're wrong, sorry. I do in fact (co-) run a relatively large community, even one with somewhat sensitive topics, and have never been [D]DOSed, highly likely thanks to adhering to the "rule" "do not attack others personally" working out surprisingly well.

    Btw, your (not really) subtle arrogance painting yourself as "big player" and me as basically a clueless nobody doesn't help your case, in fact, it rather suggests that you basically just had it coming ...

    Be that as it may, humans are humans and therefore one should try to get at the facts and hear both sides.

    Besides it wouldn't make sense for aeza to kick out new customers without reason and they wouldn't have grown to the size they are if they did. What might well make sense though is to quite soon say goodbye to customers reasonably suspected to create problems and/or trouble.

    Maybe in your case they shot too quickly from the hip, that's possible. But the only way to find out is to get at the facts and to hear both sides.

    Thanked by 1M66B
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @emgh said:

    @MannDude said:
    Is it possible that they think you attacked yourself?

    Providers could come to this conclusion if you're logged into any attack dashboard viewing metrics before/during/after an attack. Wouldn't be hard to put 2+2 together in that scenario. (Access logs to attack details was accessed 3 minutes prior to the beginning of attack, user refreshed the page 5X during the 10 minute attack ... type of thing.) Any DDoS protection provider with an attack dashboard would likely have some sort of abuse management tool like that baked in, I would imagine. No idea if that is the case with them, never seen their site even.

    So imagine if someone threaten you with DDoS, you nervously login to check if there is one, reload a few times and then you’re gone😂

    Nah, not that alone, but would be a red flag in my book.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @AS203446 said:

    @keq said:

    @AS203446 said:
    Not everyone wants Terabit scale attacks.

    If a company cannot protect it well, I will never see this as a user problem, sorry

    How much did you pay for the VPS?

    first you said that "Not everyone wants Terabit scale attacks" even though they advertise precisely this and now you try to make it look okay because it's cheap?

    Is this something one should have in mind ordering from you too? That if it's cheap what's on the website and what you promise doesn't matter?

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @DP said:

    @Motion3549 said: My prediction up to 7 pages drama.

    If that's the case..

    See u on page 7 then. :D

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • AS203446AS203446 Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:
    first you said that "Not everyone wants Terabit scale attacks" even though they advertise precisely this and now you try to make it look okay because it's cheap?

    No ISP is going to provide you any kind of service if a DDoS attack causes harm to their network. They will either ask you to pay more or terminate your service/contract.

    DDoS Protection is a flexible term, but yes, I have to agree, if someone advertises a certain amount of capacity it should be able to withstand such attacks.

    But nobody knows the size of the attack.

    As DP mentioned, Aeza's TOS state:

    The Company reserves the right to stop the Client's services and servers for: Scheduled > maintenance, due to DoS and network attacks, as a result of natural disasters and other > force majeure circumstances.

    @emgh said: Is this something one should have in mind ordering from you too?

    No, because we do not specify DDoS mitigation capacity. I think the reason is obvious.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited June 2025

    @jsg said:

    @keq said:

    @jsg said:
    Sorry but all I saw so far in terms of evidence is a screenshot showing that OP / @keq is blocked/can't login to aeza's panel, which by itself and without context doesn't say a lot.

    That is not to say that I think that keq lied or that aeza did well and the right thing. What I mean is that we should stick to the golden rule "hear both sides!".

    Also, keq why did you get DDOSed? After all, typically one doesn't get DDOSed out of the blue without any reason ...

    Care to tell us a bit more? And of course the same goes for aeza.

    If you have a large community you will always be a target. I think you have never encountered such a situation before and I think you have not received high attacks, it seems like you know better than me. I have been looking for a good protected company for months.

    I am not receiving any replies to my emails, the only reply I receive from Telegram is go read the rules. There is no interlocutor
    You can try them on this issue. If one day your account gets banned, LET should come to mind.

    You're wrong, sorry. I do in fact (co-) run a relatively large community, even one with somewhat sensitive topics, and have never been [D]DOSed, highly likely thanks to adhering to the "rule" "do not attack others personally" working out surprisingly well.

    The fact that you haven't experienced a DDoS attack and that you didn't mention the forum numbers implies you really are small potatoes and you have already clearly demonstrated you don't know wtf you're talking about.

    Btw, your (not really) subtle arrogance painting yourself as "big player" and me as basically a clueless nobody doesn't help your case, in fact, it rather suggests that you basically just had it coming ...

    Be that as it may, humans are humans and therefore one should try to get at the facts and hear both sides.

    And yet that doesn't stop you from victim blaming (typical of you) and making baseless accusations that you just whined about against yourself. FFS.

    Thanked by 2Protocol903 WyvernCo
  • @AezaHost care to give more info?

  • zedzed Member

    @barbaros said:
    @AezaHost care to give more info?

    Did the op really give any info for them to respond to?

  • fly056fly056 Member

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  • @navneetkk said:
    ......... and select few LET hosts are reliable 😅

    Name, please?

  • VoidVoid Member

    @Rubben said:

    @Levi said:
    Aeza - provider which scammed customers with fake locations while proxing traffic via hetzner. A ton of information about that in search engines. And OP still ordered…

    Well, thread has been Rubenized, it is doomed.

    ok now you didnt have to go that far

    Thread has cunty diva now ?

  • Thread is so derailed on page 2 already, can't wait to see people debate how scammy Russian providers are over the next 2 pages, followed by discussing @AS203446's Schnitzel in 4 pages.

  • cloudblastcloudblast Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2025

    Time for new Aeza refugee deal? :D

    Jokes aside, that sucks. Its understandable to turn off your VM and tell you to migrate elsewhere if the attack was so big to damage other customers as well, but they shouldn't lock you out of your files.. (unless you performed illegal activity)

    If you wish to try Cloudblast's DDoS protected servers, we can provide you a 5€ bonus on deposit.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    An interesting show. One throws a cry, the others rushes to the embrasure. Some providers do business here.

    Thanked by 2cloudblast jsg
  • @cloudblast said:
    Time for new Aeza refugee deal? :D

    Jokes aside, that sucks. Its understandable to turn off your VM and tell you to migrate elsewhere if the attack was so big to damage other customers as well, but they shouldn't lock you out of your files.. (unless you performed illegal activity)

    If you wish to try Cloudblast's DDoS protected servers, we can provide you a 5€ bonus on deposit.

    @hostiko did one of these lol

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4384551#Comment_4384551

    Time for another ?

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    If the owner of the house threw you out the door and took away the entrance keys, this does not mean that something is wrong with him. Maybe you did something yourself that is incompatible with the rules of the owner of this house.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • @jenkki said:
    If the owner of the house threw you out the door and took away the entrance keys, this does not mean that something is wrong with him. Maybe you did something yourself that is incompatible with the rules of the owner of this house.

    Though I left a pretty harsh initial post, this hoster is known to be a scam company. To be honest, those guys are degenerate pieces of half criminal shit.

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @DP said:

    @keq said: Turns out, they suspended the account because we were under a DDoS attack.
    Let that sink in: they sell DDoS-protected servers, but suspend you the moment you actually get attacked. So... why did they do it?

    I skimmed through their TOS and noticed this:

    The Company reserves the right to stop the Client's services and servers for: Scheduled maintenance, due to DoS and network attacks, as a result of natural disasters and other force majeure circumstances.

    They could've done better with that and put something like "comes with premium suspension when things get too heavy" :smiley:

    In lowend world a DoS attack is a natural disaster, so the TOS can be simplified ;-)

  • keqkeq Member

    @cloudblast said:
    Time for new Aeza refugee deal? :D

    Jokes aside, that sucks. Its understandable to turn off your VM and tell you to migrate elsewhere if the attack was so big to damage other customers as well, but they shouldn't lock you out of your files.. (unless you performed illegal activity)

    If you wish to try Cloudblast's DDoS protected servers, we can provide you a 5€ bonus on deposit.

    I bought a server from you before, let's not forget that and in short I didn't see any protection.

    @jenkki said:
    If the owner of the house threw you out the door and took away the entrance keys, this does not mean that something is wrong with him. Maybe you did something yourself that is incompatible with the rules of the owner of this house.

    Yes, you're talking a lot of sense, and we're currently making a deal with them for drug trafficking in UK. So they're not going to kick us out

  • @keq said:

    @jsg said:
    Also, keq why did you get DDOSed? After all, typically one doesn't get DDOSed out of the blue without any reason ...

    If you have a large community you will always be a target. I think you have never encountered such a situation before and I think you have not received high attacks, it seems like you know better than me. I have been looking for a good protected company for months.

    I got ddos'ed some times, just happens. Especially in games. Hard to find good, affordable, low latency protection for games.

    Host should not advertise ddos protection if they do not offer it. And if it is too much for host to handle, they should null route the IP instead of ban.

  • keqkeq Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    @keq said:

    @jsg said:
    Also, keq why did you get DDOSed? After all, typically one doesn't get DDOSed out of the blue without any reason ...

    If you have a large community you will always be a target. I think you have never encountered such a situation before and I think you have not received high attacks, it seems like you know better than me. I have been looking for a good protected company for months.

    I got ddos'ed some times, just happens. Especially in games. Hard to find good, affordable, low latency protection for games.

    Host should not advertise ddos protection if they do not offer it. And if it is too much for host to handle, they should null route the IP instead of ban.

    Every company has this lie we have real protection.

    We are currently trying gamehosting.it and I have already tried quite a too many companies this month. just a waste of time and money

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • @keq said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    @keq said:

    @jsg said:
    Also, keq why did you get DDOSed? After all, typically one doesn't get DDOSed out of the blue without any reason ...

    If you have a large community you will always be a target. I think you have never encountered such a situation before and I think you have not received high attacks, it seems like you know better than me. I have been looking for a good protected company for months.

    I got ddos'ed some times, just happens. Especially in games. Hard to find good, affordable, low latency protection for games.

    Host should not advertise ddos protection if they do not offer it. And if it is too much for host to handle, they should null route the IP instead of ban.

    Every company has this lie we have real protection.

    We are currently trying gamehosting.it and I have already tried quite a too many companies this month. just a waste of time and money

    ddos only work with ovh. Everything else just gimmick.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @Mik3y326 said: this hoster is known to be a scam company

    I used their VPS promo for almost two years until I forgot to pay and didn't see any problems. You're blowing the problem out of nothing. Plus, the hosting is Russian and there are a lot of hate bots here who are heating up the situation. You're like sheep being led by your shepherd.

    No need to do illegal things and everything will be fine.

    Thanked by 1ethanblake87
  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR
    edited July 2025

    @keq said:
    We are currently trying gamehosting.it and I have already tried quite a too many companies this month. just a waste of time and money

    Hi,

    since i am curious, how much exactly do you pay and what exactly do you receive? ( before and now with your recent test )
    If its a secret, also no problem, then dont mind it...

  • Why are you using a regular hosting provider that relies on someone else for protection? Why not contact the companies that actually provide DDoS protection directly? They sell VPS too, like G-Core and StormWall. Yes, the prices might be high, but your main issue is constant DDoS attacks

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • Lmao my aeza? Get any vps and put it behind cloudflare

  • *why

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