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ColoCrossing Database Breach

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  • lirrrlirrr Member
    edited June 2025

    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @lirrr said:
    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

    Thanks for your comment! $10 has been deposited into your ColoCrossing™ Cloud account!

  • lirrrlirrr Member

    @beanman109 said:

    @lirrr said:
    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

    Thanks for your comment! $10 has been deposited into your ColoCrossing™ Cloud account!

    colocrossing credit ++++

  • RubbenRubben Member

    @lirrr said:
    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

    i will fucking lirrr

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2025

    2.6 Rating not great, not terrible.
    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/colocrossing.com

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited June 2025

    It will go lower, especially considering this breach.

  • @beanman109 said:

    @lirrr said:
    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

    Thanks for your comment! $10 has been deposited into your ColoCrossing™ Cloud account!

    Now he can change his email not once but twice!!!

    Thanked by 2lothos t0m
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @barbaros said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @lirrr said:
    u all schizophrenia
    there is no data breach
    what r u all talking about?

    Thanks for your comment! $10 has been deposited into your ColoCrossing™ Cloud account!

    Now he can change his email not once but twice!!!

    This could be a nice way to prepare for a second data (leak) breach?

  • zedzed Member

    your pii has been deployed

  • Thanked by 1oloke
  • FYI if colocrossing is getting special treatment here, it may constitute a violation of FTC disclosure rules due to no conflict of interest disclaimer being prominently displayed on the site/forum/posts. (This should probably be posted prominently regardless, even if no special treatment were happening).

    Provider tags have been carefully managed in past to prune out abusive providers. Thus, provider tags are an endorsement of the reliability and fitness of a provider. They carry significant weight within the community, and factor into community members likelihood of purchasing or not purchasing services from a particular provider.

    It is extremely difficult to justify colocrossing not getting their tag revoked given any other provider would face similar censure.

    Per § 255.5 Disclosure of material connections

    When there exists a connection between the endorser and the seller of the advertised product that
    might materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement (i.e., the connection is not
    reasonably expected by the audience), such connection must be fully disclosed.

    Furthermore § 255.4 Endorsements by organizations

    Endorsements by organizations, especially expert ones, are viewed as representing the judgment of
    a group whose collective experience exceeds that of any individual member, and whose judgments
    are generally free of the sort of subjective factors that vary from individual to individual.
    Therefore, an organization’s endorsement must be reached by a process sufficient to ensure that
    the endorsement fairly reflects the collective judgment of the organization

    I have become a big fan of LET over the last year, so mods please don't take this the wrong way, but LET needs to operate separately from colocrossing influence.

  • [@WyvernCo said]
    provider tags are an endorsement of the reliability and fitness of a provider

    not sure where this came from

  • zedzed Member
    edited June 2025

    @cybertech said:

    [@WyvernCo said]
    provider tags are an endorsement of the reliability and fitness of a provider

    not sure where this came from

    Well.. it signifies they passed some basic criteria but calling it an endorsement is definitely a stretch. But @jbiloh is LET and CloudCrossing both so I'm not sure I'd expect any dramatic gestures.

    edit: even another unnamed LET admin who isn't(?) directly connected to CC seemed happy with the nonresponses and general sweeping under the rug. SHOTS FIRED.

    Thanked by 2nohavps default
  • @zed said:

    @cybertech said:

    [@WyvernCo said]
    provider tags are an endorsement of the reliability and fitness of a provider

    not sure where this came from

    Well.. it signifies they passed some basic criteria but calling it an endorsement is definitely a stretch. But @jbiloh is LET and CloudCrossing both so I'm not sure I'd expect any dramatic gestures.

    edit: even another unnamed LET admin who isn't(?) directly connected to CC seemed happy with the nonresponses and general sweeping under the rug. SHOTS FIRED.

    imo, it means they paid $200

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @cybertech said:

    [@WyvernCo said]
    provider tags are an endorsement of the reliability and fitness of a provider

    not sure where this came from

    Not exactly to the point but similar enough: I know for a fact from providers themselves that if I post a positive review they see a significant increase of sales, but when my review is negative they see sales slow down. One example (although they provided no feedback, but it was publicly visible here) MG's sales slowed down significantly after a - deservedly - "bad" review ("bad" in "" because I don't do positive or negative reviews but simply report hard cold data plus some comments).

    So it seems to me that @WyvernCo clearly is right. It's just how humans tick. When LET gives a provider tag to some provider of course that is supposed by many to mean that that provider meets some reasonable standard. And in fact the LET leadership, it seems to me, does even confirm that impression, e.g. by stating that any provider desiring that tag must meet certain, commonly assumed to be strict, standards and that providers are checked and also must stay "clean" so as to not loose that tag.

    And that is OK and perfectly fine in my view. What's not OK, and what's the problem here, is the clear impression of many that Colocrossing does not - and is not required to - meet those standards.

    Btw and talking about legal requirements anyway: I don't know the USA laws well but I presume that they do have laws regarding adequately and carefully handling PII of their customers.

    From my personal perspective it clearly was a major clusterfuck and I'd be not all surprised if there were a legal dimension to that as well.

    Thanked by 2Ed_Chd WyvernCo
  • Just to bring back some people to reality, LET sells hosting providers tags so they can legally spam on the board without any penance. It doesn't mean anything more.

    You can, set up a summer host, pay your fine provider tag cost, get some customers and then deadpool. And LET wouldn't give a single f, as they get paid already.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @barbaros said:
    Just to bring back some people to reality, LET sells hosting providers tags so they can legally spam on the board without any penance. It doesn't mean anything more.

    You can, set up a summer host, pay your fine provider tag cost, get some customers and then deadpool. And LET wouldn't give a single f, as they get paid already.

    As long as there is demand and if the price is right, some from the community will still buy from returning deadpool summer hosts.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    If admins won't remove the provider tag, the least we can do is spread the news and hope for the best with regards to consumers.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @default said:
    If admins won't remove the provider tag, the least we can do is spread the news and hope for the best with regards to consumers.

    Based on what we've seen, I'm not sure if intervention by the admins or mods in this case for this particular provider will lead to meaningful results. One moderator tried not too long ago with another provider, but look how it ended. A whole lot of nothing.

    At the end of the day, they are just 'unpaid bouncers'. The ultimate decision-making power still lies with the owner of the place.

    Thanked by 1mandala
  • This thread must never die!

  • zedzed Member

    @barbarza said: This thread must never die!

    Well it's really the only way we can contribute right? I certainly don't have the power to sanction CC, except by not giving them my money. But I was already doing that.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @barbarza said:
    This thread must never die!

    Oh it will see its glorious fall into the abyss

    Mark my words

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @plumberg said:

    @barbarza said:
    This thread must never die!

    Oh it will see its glorious fall into the abyss

    Mark my words

    True. They will set it to sink to reduce the volume, then at some point they will close it too. It is up to us to remember this and keep warning potential customers.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @default said:

    @plumberg said:

    @barbarza said:
    This thread must never die!

    Oh it will see its glorious fall into the abyss

    Mark my words

    True. They will set it to sink to reduce the volume, then at some point they will close it too. It is up to us to remember this and keep warning potential customers.

    May the force be with you ✨️

    Thanked by 1ServerBachelor
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @plumberg said:

    @default said:

    @plumberg said:

    @barbarza said:
    This thread must never die!

    Oh it will see its glorious fall into the abyss

    Mark my words

    True. They will set it to sink to reduce the volume, then at some point they will close it too. It is up to us to remember this and keep warning potential customers.

    May the force be with you ✨️

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited June 2025

    The sad truth is, those who can only afford low cost services don't really care so much about a provider's reputation nor do they usually have the ability or desire to read 30+ pages of comments to form an opinion on whether or not their purchase is a good one or not, especially if English isn't their native language. What they're looking for then isn't commentary about a provider. It's specs, location, pricing and an order link. They're not digging deep and translating text that is irrelevant to those specific points. Whether CC does or does not do a proper disclosure honestly probably won't hurt their bottom line much.

    And Colocrossing isn't just one brand, several house brands exist for them to extend their reach. Don't like Brand1? Don't worry, Brand2 has a similar offer in the exact same location. Buy that instead. (It's the same product).

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2025

    @MannDude said:
    The sad truth is, those who can only afford low cost services don't really care so much about a provider's reputation.

    It depends, Initially probably yes, afterwards no.
    The amount of time you can waste, even on a 10$/y VPS, doing ticket after ticket, just because they keep providing you with pure shit.

    Since then I skip most of the yearlies here on LET, especially the new ones.
    Except they have some kind of history.

    Thanked by 2MannDude t0m
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @Neoon said:

    @MannDude said:
    The sad truth is, those who can only afford low cost services don't really care so much about a provider's reputation.

    It depends, Initially probably yes, afterwards no.
    The amount of time you can waste, even on a 10$/y VPS, doing ticket after ticket, just because they keep providing you with pure shit.

    Since then I skip most of the yearlies here on LET, especially the new ones.
    Except they have some kind of history.

    ColoCrossing has history too, and what a history!

  • @default said:

    @Neoon said:

    @MannDude said:
    The sad truth is, those who can only afford low cost services don't really care so much about a provider's reputation.

    It depends, Initially probably yes, afterwards no.
    The amount of time you can waste, even on a 10$/y VPS, doing ticket after ticket, just because they keep providing you with pure shit.

    Since then I skip most of the yearlies here on LET, especially the new ones.
    Except they have some kind of history.

    ColoCrossing has history too, and what a history!

    I feel like a boomer now.

    Thanked by 1khalequzzaman
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