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What is RAID? [Noob Question]

Hello,

So I recently lost all my data because I did not setup RAID. Many users and even OVH staff told me that if you had setup RAID, your data should not have been lost.

I have OVH KS-LE-B with 2x 450GB SSD NVMe Soft Raid.
I did not understand that what is soft raid?

Is it if we setup RAID 1, We can only use 1x 450GB instead of 2x 450GB? Sorry for these foolish questions, But I need someone to explain more clearly.

Thanks!

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  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited June 2025

    Soft RAID is based/managed on/by software. Soft = software.

    RAID 0 = high performance = full capacity but no redundancy (if it fails = bye bye data)
    RAID 1 = redundancy but less capacity. So, if you have 2 x 450, you can only use 1 x 450Gb since data will be doubled.

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    RAID 1 mirrors data onto both drives so you can use 450gb (1 nvme drive) in simple terms raid1 you basically get half of the usage space you would have from jbod/raid0 but you "safety" is if one drive was to fail your data is on the other mirrored drive

    Thanked by 2IIMKIIVG PineappleM
  • Also you can take a read, I think no one will explain in much detail themselves
    https://www.liquidweb.com/blog/raid-level-1-5-6-10/

    Thanked by 1caracal
  • caracalcaracal Member
    edited June 2025

    Soft RAID is software raid.
    Essentially utilising multiple disks to mirror your data across them in different ways.

    Raid1 means the data is striped/mirror across two or more disks.

    In your case, you can think of it being replicated consistently across both disks. If one disk fails - the other disk still has a full copy of the data and can continue working when you replace the faulty disk.

    Edit: I read the other thread. Sorry for the negativity and I’m glad you’re trying to learn from the mistake!

  • DecicusDecicus Member
    edited June 2025

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    Soft RAID is based/managed on/by software. Soft = software.

    RAID 0 = high performance = full capacity but no redundancy (if it fails = bye bye data)
    RAID 1 = redundancy but less capacity. So, if you have 2 x 450, you can only use 1 x 450Gb since data will be doubled.

    Should also be explicitly mentioned that RAID0 is arguably less redundancy than just running two separate disks standalone.

    With RAID0 between 2 (or more) disks, if only one of those disks die - regardless of which one - then all data in that RAID0 is lost.

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad
    edited June 2025

    Depending on what your usecase is you can still use raid0 for better performance (and more usable storage) and do regular backups to a storage server or similar you can run cronjob rsync to automatically do this every night and easily backup if needed....but again it just depends on what type of data or app/project you are running on your main server there is further steps involved if theres DBs involved etc etc

  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    Quite useless with only two disks but https://www.raid-calculator.com/default.aspx may be a good chance for you to understand for different raid levels:

    • read speed gains (if any)
    • write speed gains (if any)
    • fault tolerance (how many disks can die without losing your data)
    Thanked by 1jsg
  • Thank you everyone for quick replies.
    I got it that with RAID1, I can use only 1 disk instead of 2.

    A huge thanks to everyone who replied quickly.

  • @allthemtings said:
    Depending on what your usecase is you can still use raid0 for better performance (and more usable storage) and do regular backups to a storage server or similar you can run cronjob rsync to automatically do this every night and easily backup if needed....but again it just depends on what type of data or app/project you are running on your main server there is further steps involved if theres DBs involved etc etc

    Any cheap safe storage site to backup whole windows every month?

  • wii747wii747 Member

    RAID is not a backup! I have my server setup as raid 1 and daily backups to another VPS with a completely different location and company.

  • @IIMKIIVG said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Depending on what your usecase is you can still use raid0 for better performance (and more usable storage) and do regular backups to a storage server or similar you can run cronjob rsync to automatically do this every night and easily backup if needed....but again it just depends on what type of data or app/project you are running on your main server there is further steps involved if theres DBs involved etc etc

    Any cheap safe storage site to backup whole windows every month?

    HostBrr storagebox is probably as cheap as it gets. Otherwise, wait for Black Friday for any special deals from providers.

    Not only buy a backup storage server but choose one from a reliable, quality provider that has endorsements from the community, like @labze @hosthatch @host_c to name a few, so that you know your backup won’t disappear with the provider going out of business (deadpooling). (This has happened to me before.)

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @IIMKIIVG said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Depending on what your usecase is you can still use raid0 for better performance (and more usable storage) and do regular backups to a storage server or similar you can run cronjob rsync to automatically do this every night and easily backup if needed....but again it just depends on what type of data or app/project you are running on your main server there is further steps involved if theres DBs involved etc etc

    Any cheap safe storage site to backup whole windows every month?

    Storage VPS from @host_c is what id recommend

    Thanked by 2IIMKIIVG host_c
  • @wii747 said:
    RAID is not a backup! I have my server setup as raid 1 and daily backups to another VPS with a completely different location and company.

    RAID1 is somewhat should have saved me as one of my two drives got failed. It is indeed a good thing.
    Although its good to have another backup.

  • kaitkait Member

    What is Soft RAID?

    Soft RAID (software RAID) uses your operating system (not hardware) to manage RAID.
    
    It's more flexible and cheaper, but slightly slower and less reliable than hardware RAID.
    

    What is RAID 1?

    RAID 1 mirrors your data — it copies everything from one drive to the other.
    
    So if one drive fails, the other still has your data.
    
    Yes, in RAID 1 with 2x 450GB, you only get 450GB usable space because the second drive is a copy.
    

    Why You Lost Data:

    Without RAID 1, if one drive dies, there's no copy, so data is lost.
    
    RAID 1 would have prevented that by keeping a backup in real-time.
    

    Let me know if you want help setting up RAID next time!

    Thanked by 2IIMKIIVG nghialele
  • @kait said:
    What is Soft RAID?

    Soft RAID (software RAID) uses your operating system (not hardware) to manage RAID.
    
    It's more flexible and cheaper, but slightly slower and less reliable than hardware RAID.
    

    What is RAID 1?

    RAID 1 mirrors your data — it copies everything from one drive to the other.
    
    So if one drive fails, the other still has your data.
    
    Yes, in RAID 1 with 2x 450GB, you only get 450GB usable space because the second drive is a copy.
    

    Why You Lost Data:

    Without RAID 1, if one drive dies, there's no copy, so data is lost.
    
    RAID 1 would have prevented that by keeping a backup in real-time.
    

    Let me know if you want help setting up RAID next time!

    Clean and clear explanation.
    Thanks a lot!

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @IIMKIIVG said:
    Thank you everyone for quick replies.
    I got it that with RAID1, I can use only 1 disk instead of 2.

    A huge thanks to everyone who replied quickly.

    You use both the disks in RAID-1
    It allows mirroring all data from disk 1 to disk 2.
    The capacity is limited to one only.

    Maybe now is a good time to invest in a nice backup plan (leave multiple copies with multiple providers) if data is important.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @IIMKIIVG said:

    @wii747 said:
    RAID is not a backup! I have my server setup as raid 1 and daily backups to another VPS with a completely different location and company.

    RAID1 is somewhat should have saved me as one of my two drives got failed. It is indeed a good thing.
    Although its good to have another backup.

    I have a feeling you may setup Raid1 now but skip on the backups

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @FlorinMarian said:
    Quite useless with only two disks but https://www.raid-calculator.com/default.aspx may be a good chance for you to understand for different raid levels:

    • read speed gains (if any)
    • write speed gains (if any)
    • fault tolerance (how many disks can die without losing your data)

    Raid0 works wonders with 2 disks, as in OPs case

    Thanked by 1PineappleM
  • PineappleMPineappleM Member
    edited June 2025

    RAID IS NOT BACKUP

    This cannot be said enough times. It is replication at the system level. It will not save you from an irrecoverable crash or a datacenter fire.

    I have two 4 TB storage servers at two different providers from here to keep two offsite backups of my data. It cannot be emphasized enough that redundancy needs to be in everything: different provider, different location, and preferably different continent. Buying backup from the same provider but different location is not sufficient redundancy, to be clear.

    Thanked by 2Decicus jsg
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @PineappleM said:
    RAID IS NOT BACKUP

    This cannot be said enough times. It is replication at the system level. It will not save you from an irrecoverable crash or a datacenter fire.

    I have two 4 TB storage servers at two different providers from here to keep two offsite backups of my data. It cannot be emphasized enough that redundancy needs to be in everything: different provider, different location, and preferably different content. Buying backup from the same provider but different location is not sufficient redundancy, to be clear.

    4TB of sisters we love to see it

  • Soft RAID = software RAID as opposed to have a dedicated hardware managing the RAID.

  • @IIMKIIVG said:

    @wii747 said:
    RAID is not a backup! I have my server setup as raid 1 and daily backups to another VPS with a completely different location and company.

    RAID1 is somewhat should have saved me as one of my two drives got failed. It is indeed a good thing.
    Although its good to have another backup.

    There’s a lot of great advice in this thread already, but I want to emphasize something critical that many people still misunderstand: RAID is not a backup.

    You mentioned it’s “good to have another backup,” but based on the rest of your comment, it seems your mindset is that RAID is a form of backup. That’s a dangerous misconception.

    Also, your comment about “only being able to use half” or “just one hard drive” reflects another common misunderstanding. The actual usable space in a RAID configuration depends on the smallest drive in the array and the RAID level you're using.

    Example:
    If you have a 1TB drive and a 2TB drive and put them into a RAID 1 (mirroring) setup, you’ll only have 1TB of usable space—the size of the smallest drive. You don’t get to use the “extra” 1TB on the larger drive. That’s how RAID works. It’s about redundancy and availability, not storage expansion or backup.

    And here’s another serious issue people overlook:

    If a file becomes corrupted on one drive in a RAID 1 setup, that same corrupted data is instantly mirrored to the second drive.
    RAID doesn’t know or care whether the data is valid or corrupted—it just mirrors it. So if corruption happens, both drives will contain the same bad data. RAID protects against drive failure, not file integrity or user error.

    Let me say it again clearly:

    RAID is not a backup.

    If the RAID controller fails, or if there's data corruption, or a fire in the data center, both drives can be lost simultaneously—and with them, all your data. There are countless stories of people who thought their data was safe just because they had RAID, only to lose everything when the array failed.

    Even in home setups, many people with two-drive NAS devices mistakenly think the second drive is their “backup.” It’s not. If the RAID fails, the entire array can become inaccessible.

    Bottom line: Always have a real, separate backup—preferably offline or off-site. RAID helps with uptime and redundancy, not disaster recovery.

  • RAID 0 (Striping)

    • Minimum Drives: 2
    • Redundancy: ❌ None
    • Read Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Write Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Usable Capacity: 100% (all drive space combined)
    • Notes: Fastest option, but no fault tolerance. If one drive fails, all data is lost.

    RAID 1 (Mirroring)

    • Minimum Drives: 2
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Slower 🐢 (writes must go to both drives)
    • Usable Capacity: 50% (half the space is used for redundancy)
    • Notes: High reliability. Great for critical data, but storage efficiency is low.

    RAID 5 (Striping with Single Parity)

    • Minimum Drives: 3
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Moderate ⚠ (parity calculations slow things down)
    • Usable Capacity: Total space minus one drive (N - 1)
    • Notes: Good balance of speed, storage, and fault tolerance. Can survive one drive failure.

    RAID 6 (Striping with Double Parity)

    • Minimum Drives: 4
    • Redundancy: ✅✅ Yes (can survive two drive failures)
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Slower 🐢 (more parity overhead than RAID 5)
    • Usable Capacity: Total space minus two drives (N - 2)
    • Notes: Safer than RAID 5, but slower on writes. Better for mission-critical setups.

    RAID 10 (Mirrored Stripes – RAID 1+0)

    • Minimum Drives: 4 (must be an even number)
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Write Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Usable Capacity: 50% (half the space is used for mirrors)
    • Notes: Excellent performance and reliability. Combines the speed of RAID 0 with the safety of RAID 1.
    Thanked by 1davidlabib
  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    Hi there,

    You can use our RAID Calculator tool in future. It also offers a little bit of information on fault tolerance of your setup, as well as read/write gains for the selected RAID type.

    https://www.enginyring.com/tools/raidcalc

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • @IIMKIIVG said:

    What is RAID?

    RAID - redundant array of independent disks or redundant array of inexpensive disks.

    So it won't help with

    I recently lost all my data because ...

    ... RAID is not a backup.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep

    @DataRecovery said:

    @IIMKIIVG said:

    What is RAID?

    RAID - redundant array of independent disks or redundant array of inexpensive disks.

    So it won't help with

    I recently lost all my data because ...

    ... RAID is not a backup.

    Define a backup. If you think backup is "a copy of your data stored elsewhere", then RAID kinda is a block-level backup, in some RAID configurations. Not RAID0, but in RAID1 for example, Disk2 is a backup of Disk1 and vice-versa.

  • NoctNoct Member

    @painfreepc said:

    @IIMKIIVG said:

    @wii747 said:
    RAID is not a backup! I have my server setup as raid 1 and daily backups to another VPS with a completely different location and company.

    RAID1 is somewhat should have saved me as one of my two drives got failed. It is indeed a good thing.
    Although its good to have another backup.

    There’s a lot of great advice in this thread already, but I want to emphasize something critical that many people still misunderstand: RAID is not a backup.

    You mentioned it’s “good to have another backup,” but based on the rest of your comment, it seems your mindset is that RAID is a form of backup. That’s a dangerous misconception.

    Also, your comment about “only being able to use half” or “just one hard drive” reflects another common misunderstanding. The actual usable space in a RAID configuration depends on the smallest drive in the array and the RAID level you're using.

    Example:
    If you have a 1TB drive and a 2TB drive and put them into a RAID 1 (mirroring) setup, you’ll only have 1TB of usable space—the size of the smallest drive. You don’t get to use the “extra” 1TB on the larger drive. That’s how RAID works. It’s about redundancy and availability, not storage expansion or backup.

    And here’s another serious issue people overlook:

    If a file becomes corrupted on one drive in a RAID 1 setup, that same corrupted data is instantly mirrored to the second drive.
    RAID doesn’t know or care whether the data is valid or corrupted—it just mirrors it. So if corruption happens, both drives will contain the same bad data. RAID protects against drive failure, not file integrity or user error.

    Let me say it again clearly:

    RAID is not a backup.

    If the RAID controller fails, or if there's data corruption, or a fire in the data center, both drives can be lost simultaneously—and with them, all your data. There are countless stories of people who thought their data was safe just because they had RAID, only to lose everything when the array failed.

    Even in home setups, many people with two-drive NAS devices mistakenly think the second drive is their “backup.” It’s not. If the RAID fails, the entire array can become inaccessible.

    Bottom line: Always have a real, separate backup—preferably offline or off-site. RAID helps with uptime and redundancy, not disaster recovery.

    @painfreepc said:

    RAID 0 (Striping)

    • Minimum Drives: 2
    • Redundancy: ❌ None
    • Read Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Write Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Usable Capacity: 100% (all drive space combined)
    • Notes: Fastest option, but no fault tolerance. If one drive fails, all data is lost.

    RAID 1 (Mirroring)

    • Minimum Drives: 2
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Slower 🐢 (writes must go to both drives)
    • Usable Capacity: 50% (half the space is used for redundancy)
    • Notes: High reliability. Great for critical data, but storage efficiency is low.

    RAID 5 (Striping with Single Parity)

    • Minimum Drives: 3
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Moderate ⚠ (parity calculations slow things down)
    • Usable Capacity: Total space minus one drive (N - 1)
    • Notes: Good balance of speed, storage, and fault tolerance. Can survive one drive failure.

    RAID 6 (Striping with Double Parity)

    • Minimum Drives: 4
    • Redundancy: ✅✅ Yes (can survive two drive failures)
    • Read Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Write Speed: Slower 🐢 (more parity overhead than RAID 5)
    • Usable Capacity: Total space minus two drives (N - 2)
    • Notes: Safer than RAID 5, but slower on writes. Better for mission-critical setups.

    RAID 10 (Mirrored Stripes – RAID 1+0)

    • Minimum Drives: 4 (must be an even number)
    • Redundancy: ✅ Yes
    • Read Speed: Very fast 🔥
    • Write Speed: Fast ⚡
    • Usable Capacity: 50% (half the space is used for mirrors)
    • Notes: Excellent performance and reliability. Combines the speed of RAID 0 with the safety of RAID 1.

    I believe we're all perfectly capable here of consulting ChatGPT by ourselves. Question is, why are you trying to use ChatGPT without citation in an otherwise perfectly natural conversation among humans?

  • RubbenRubben Member

    its when you buy 2 of the same book because you're afraid you'll lose one of them

  • NoctNoct Member

    @Rubben said:
    its when you buy 2 of the same book because you're afraid you'll lose one of them

    Take notes @painfreepc. This is human ingenuity!

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